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Bayard

(22,004 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:44 PM Mar 2019

This American Trophy Hunter Shot a Sleeping Lion

A few years before Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer infamously killed the beloved Cecil the lion, another pathetic American trophy hunter did something as despicable: he shot a lion in Zimbabwe that was sleeping in the sun.

Although this happened in 2011, a disturbing video of the killing recently went viral after Protect All Wildlife, an animal advocate in the United Kingdom, posted it on Twitter March 18. In the graphic video, you can see Guy Gorney of Illinois using a rifle to shoot the sleeping lion once. As the lion woke up in agony, Gorney shot him two more times before a guide told him to stop…and then congratulated him.




https://www.care2.com/causes/this-american-trophy-hunter-shot-a-sleeping-lion.html

I could only watch this once. It made me nauseous. I would throw this guy in a pack of lions and watch what happens.
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This American Trophy Hunter Shot a Sleeping Lion (Original Post) Bayard Mar 2019 OP
Can't watch. Throw him to the lions. That I'll watch. nt DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #1
What a low life rusty quoin Mar 2019 #2
Fucking piece of shit. What a coward. Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #3
But he was so proud lame54 Mar 2019 #4
Coward, and a gutter barbarian. benfranklin1776 Mar 2019 #10
Trophy hunters are all losers. Hoyt Mar 2019 #5
Agreed. I've hunted since I was a kid, but I eat what I kill. 11 Bravo Mar 2019 #7
Yup. Had a boss that was one. I called his house The Dead Zoo TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #41
Killing for the sake of killing keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #6
OMG...this is AWFUL!!!!!!! onecent Mar 2019 #8
Macho macho man,... magicarpet Mar 2019 #9
'i wanna hunt. Like my ancestors did (to impress the other mens' with my manly virility.'). Volaris Mar 2019 #36
I will never understand why these scumbags enjoy slaughtering animals mokawanis Mar 2019 #11
In 2015 Gorney bragged that he had killed 70 animals - "I like pitting myself against these animals" dalton99a Mar 2019 #12
Piece of shit... LudwigPastorius Mar 2019 #13
This asshole needs to be boycotted Gothmog Mar 2019 #14
Eric and Li'l Donny have a new hero. moondust Mar 2019 #15
Let's not be too quick to judge. Captain Stern Mar 2019 #16
Anyone shooting sleeping/ hibernating wildlife is POS!!! pazzyanne Mar 2019 #28
That these things CAN be as complicated as you rightly claim... Volaris Mar 2019 #37
Maybe he just got touched by the Loc Nar? /nt localroger Mar 2019 #45
small man parts The Wizard Mar 2019 #17
That's my take. Duppers Mar 2019 #19
Does "Protect all Wildlife" have to use a slur against WOMEN in his tweet? pnwmom Mar 2019 #18
British usage... johnnyknj Mar 2019 #21
They don't speak the same English we do. Iggo Mar 2019 #23
Well, the OP speaks American English. And it's posted on a US board which US women will read. nt pnwmom Mar 2019 #25
I also speak American English. Iggo Mar 2019 #30
If the Brits thought it was okay to call something "N**ish," would you be defending that here, too? pnwmom Mar 2019 #34
I'd consider the source and remember it's not always about me. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2019 #46
I'd prefer to use a better source that didn't contain a gratuitous insult against women. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #47
That's not what you asked. Iggo Mar 2019 #48
Wow. So you WOULD defend the Brits using the N word or the F word if it was posted here. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #49
Again, that's not what you asked. Iggo Mar 2019 #50
Thats exactly what I asked, post #34. And you told me to consider the source. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #51
EDIT. Iggo Mar 2019 #55
FFS, stop policing how others speak. SMC22307 Mar 2019 #58
It's a word. Chin music Mar 2019 #31
So is the N word. So is the F**t word. They're all offensive. Just sayin'. pnwmom Mar 2019 #35
Sorry Bayard Mar 2019 #42
There are lots of other articles that talk about this, without using that tweet. pnwmom Mar 2019 #43
I cannot watch. Duppers Mar 2019 #20
Trophy hunters are scum. Iggo Mar 2019 #22
Just say No to trophy hunting. Iggo Mar 2019 #24
Can't watch this immoral SoB. pazzyanne Mar 2019 #26
Three fuckwads world wide wally Mar 2019 #27
Hahahahha...and Donald Trump Jr! Volaris Mar 2019 #39
As I always say, "no man is an Island"! oldlibdem Mar 2019 #29
Strip the bastard bare Metro135 Mar 2019 #32
Agreed. It's voyeur survival porn for sure lol, Volaris Mar 2019 #40
At first I thought Ohiogal Mar 2019 #33
That just made my head explode in FURY Goodheart Mar 2019 #38
To take the life of another being for "sport" in abominable? bitterross Mar 2019 #44
This isnt any worse than any other animal hunting... cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #52
Exactly Beringia Mar 2019 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author tymorial Mar 2019 #53
Grrr. There is something I posted and then immediately deleted because its wrong tymorial Mar 2019 #54
Shooting any animal does not impress me... Moostache Mar 2019 #56
This so-called hunter is an absolute coward. democratisphere Mar 2019 #57
Couldn't bear to watch the video at all. Hope this man pays dearly in spirit for what he has done.nt Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #59
Google him now. flvegan Mar 2019 #60
Explain please! nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #63
Idaho Official Brags About Legally Killing 'A Whole Family of Baboons ... keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #62

11 Bravo

(23,925 posts)
7. Agreed. I've hunted since I was a kid, but I eat what I kill.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:30 PM
Mar 2019

I don't get people who feel the need to have horns, heads, and pelts hanging on the wall.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,131 posts)
41. Yup. Had a boss that was one. I called his house The Dead Zoo
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

Then he dropped dead of a heart attack after his mistress broke up with him. I was not heartbroken. Neither were his wife or kids.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
36. 'i wanna hunt. Like my ancestors did (to impress the other mens' with my manly virility.').
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mar 2019

Then you should have tried to kill that lion with a stick with a sharp rock tied to the end. Or be REALLY a badass and forgo the rock (rocks are for CUCKS!---thanks, the ferret! lol), and just sharpen the stick.

THAT 'achievement' I'd be impressed with.

As it it...I'm gonna go with 'small penis', and leave it at that.

This person is a garbage human. That is all.

mokawanis

(4,435 posts)
11. I will never understand why these scumbags enjoy slaughtering animals
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:00 PM
Mar 2019

it's just senseless and cruel. There is something very wrong with people who think trophy hunting is ok.

Captain Stern

(2,199 posts)
16. Let's not be too quick to judge.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:38 PM
Mar 2019

These sort of things are complicated.

The sleeping (if he actually was sleeping) lion may have been one of those bad, old, lions that were killing younger lions, and limiting the lion population.......so mr hunting guy may have actually been saving a lot of lion lives by shooting him....and there might be a lot of starving people around there, that really need some lion meat, so he's helping them too. Sometimes, to help a species, some members of that species have to be killed. Like I said, it's complicated.

Mr hunting guy may be a swell guy, that's just doing his part to save lions.

Or, it could be as simple as this guy's a piece of shit that gets off on killing big animals.

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
37. That these things CAN be as complicated as you rightly claim...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:13 PM
Mar 2019

Is why we employ environmentally conscious and professionally trained Park Rangers in places where these kinds of complications CAN be a concern.

AND I'm guessing you're right, and this guy ISNT THAT!

Like I said...garbage human.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
18. Does "Protect all Wildlife" have to use a slur against WOMEN in his tweet?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:51 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Is it important to offend women while he's railing against the cowardly hunter?

No woman had anything to do with the slaughter of the lion. Using the C word is just as offensive as using the N word. Would it have been acceptable if the tweeter had said, "How N***ish"?

There are lots of articles available online that don't include the offensive tweet. One of them would have been a better choice -- like this one, which names the shooter: Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.

https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php

Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man


pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
25. Well, the OP speaks American English. And it's posted on a US board which US women will read. nt
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:19 PM
Mar 2019

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
30. I also speak American English.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:37 PM
Mar 2019

And yet I still know the difference between how an English person uses that word and how an American uses it.

It's kinda like the thumbs-up sign. In English speaking countries and much of the rest of the world, it's a positive. But in some African and Middle Eastern countries, it's the same as giving the middle finger.

Or the backwards peace sign. Here in America, it's just a way to say cool or hello. In England it's akin, again, to giving the middle finger.

I know that knowing your audience matters. But intent also matters. And so does context.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
34. If the Brits thought it was okay to call something "N**ish," would you be defending that here, too?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:46 PM
Mar 2019

If the British tweeter had called the shooter a "F**t," would you be defending that also?

I don't care how the British use the C word. It's posted on an American board and it's offensive to American women. The OP could have found some way to address this issue without using that particular tweet.

Like one of the many articles talking about this. The article below would have the added advantage of naming the man who did the shooting, while not including any slurs against women. He has been identified as Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.

https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php

Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
55. EDIT.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:11 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:09 PM - Edit history (1)

No, you're right. I read it again. You didn't ask me what I'd do. You asked me if I'd defend them.

My answer is basically the same, though: "No. I'd consider the source and remember it's not always about me."

I do apologize, though, for misrepresenting what you said. That was some sloppy reading on my part.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
58. FFS, stop policing how others speak.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

I'm an American woman who doesn't find offense in that tweet (or every fucking little thing). Accept that not everyone speaks the same as you.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
43. There are lots of other articles that talk about this, without using that tweet.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 06:40 PM
Mar 2019

And some of them name the Illinois hunter, Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.

https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php

Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
26. Can't watch this immoral SoB.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:26 PM
Mar 2019

I truly see red and want to when I hear something like this. The people who do this (including the orange one's sons) do not deserve the air they breath. That is all.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
39. Hahahahha...and Donald Trump Jr!
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:20 PM
Mar 2019

That tag should be generally and always applied to everything that correcrly offends us ha!

Death, Taxes, and Donald Trump Jr.
Poverty, Crime, and Donald Trump Jr.
Sex, Drugs, and Donald Trump Jr.

It's brilliant and it should be its own meme.

Metro135

(359 posts)
32. Strip the bastard bare
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:44 PM
Mar 2019

and leave him alone on the Serengeti for a week. We'll see how mighty a hunter he is then.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
40. Agreed. It's voyeur survival porn for sure lol,
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:25 PM
Mar 2019

But Naked and Afraid is one or the very very few reality TV shows I can sit through...

Because you can either 'hack it' as god fuckin made you, or you can Be Fuckin Hungry.

Watching the learning process for that..feels...idunno...good and dirty all at the same time I guess heh...

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
44. To take the life of another being for "sport" in abominable?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 06:45 PM
Mar 2019

How small and mushroom-shaped is his penis?

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
52. This isnt any worse than any other animal hunting...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:06 PM
Mar 2019

Whether they are sleeping or walking through the woods with their kids, they are just living their life without even knowing that hunting exists and someone is trying to kill then with a weapon they can't comprehend and no chance to fight back.

All of it is cowardly.

Response to Bayard (Original post)

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
54. Grrr. There is something I posted and then immediately deleted because its wrong
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:10 PM
Mar 2019

And yet I would bet the Powerball jackpot from yesterday that many are thinking it too.... him sleeping etc etc.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
56. Shooting any animal does not impress me...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:23 PM
Mar 2019

Hunting a lion with a spear and your bare hands might...r it might just confirm for me that that type of person is worthless and an evolutionary deadend...

Judi Lynn

(160,448 posts)
59. Couldn't bear to watch the video at all. Hope this man pays dearly in spirit for what he has done.nt
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:26 PM
Mar 2019
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