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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis American Trophy Hunter Shot a Sleeping Lion
A few years before Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer infamously killed the beloved Cecil the lion, another pathetic American trophy hunter did something as despicable: he shot a lion in Zimbabwe that was sleeping in the sun.
Although this happened in 2011, a disturbing video of the killing recently went viral after Protect All Wildlife, an animal advocate in the United Kingdom, posted it on Twitter March 18. In the graphic video, you can see Guy Gorney of Illinois using a rifle to shoot the sleeping lion once. As the lion woke up in agony, Gorney shot him two more times before a guide told him to stop
and then congratulated him.
Link to tweet
https://www.care2.com/causes/this-american-trophy-hunter-shot-a-sleeping-lion.html
I could only watch this once. It made me nauseous. I would throw this guy in a pack of lions and watch what happens.
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)lame54
(35,259 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,443 posts)Hope karma pays him a richly deserved visit. 🤬
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)11 Bravo
(23,925 posts)I don't get people who feel the need to have horns, heads, and pelts hanging on the wall.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,131 posts)Then he dropped dead of a heart attack after his mistress broke up with him. I was not heartbroken. Neither were his wife or kids.
keithbvadu2
(36,640 posts)Killing for the sake of killing.
onecent
(6,096 posts)magicarpet
(14,113 posts)He crowned himself the new king of the jungle,.. what a macho man.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)Then you should have tried to kill that lion with a stick with a sharp rock tied to the end. Or be REALLY a badass and forgo the rock (rocks are for CUCKS!---thanks, the ferret! lol), and just sharpen the stick.
THAT 'achievement' I'd be impressed with.
As it it...I'm gonna go with 'small penis', and leave it at that.
This person is a garbage human. That is all.
mokawanis
(4,435 posts)it's just senseless and cruel. There is something very wrong with people who think trophy hunting is ok.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,095 posts)Gothmog
(144,890 posts)moondust
(19,956 posts)So brave and big manly. Wow.
Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)These sort of things are complicated.
The sleeping (if he actually was sleeping) lion may have been one of those bad, old, lions that were killing younger lions, and limiting the lion population.......so mr hunting guy may have actually been saving a lot of lion lives by shooting him....and there might be a lot of starving people around there, that really need some lion meat, so he's helping them too. Sometimes, to help a species, some members of that species have to be killed. Like I said, it's complicated.
Mr hunting guy may be a swell guy, that's just doing his part to save lions.
Or, it could be as simple as this guy's a piece of shit that gets off on killing big animals.
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one.
pazzyanne
(6,543 posts)Volaris
(10,266 posts)Is why we employ environmentally conscious and professionally trained Park Rangers in places where these kinds of complications CAN be a concern.
AND I'm guessing you're right, and this guy ISNT THAT!
Like I said...garbage human.
localroger
(3,620 posts)The Wizard
(12,533 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
Is it important to offend women while he's railing against the cowardly hunter?
No woman had anything to do with the slaughter of the lion. Using the C word is just as offensive as using the N word. Would it have been acceptable if the tweeter had said, "How N***ish"?
There are lots of articles available online that don't include the offensive tweet. One of them would have been a better choice -- like this one, which names the shooter: Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.
https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php
Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man
johnnyknj
(37 posts)It's like us calling something "a dick move", or "dickish". Accepted in the U.K.
Iggo
(47,534 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)And yet I still know the difference between how an English person uses that word and how an American uses it.
It's kinda like the thumbs-up sign. In English speaking countries and much of the rest of the world, it's a positive. But in some African and Middle Eastern countries, it's the same as giving the middle finger.
Or the backwards peace sign. Here in America, it's just a way to say cool or hello. In England it's akin, again, to giving the middle finger.
I know that knowing your audience matters. But intent also matters. And so does context.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)If the British tweeter had called the shooter a "F**t," would you be defending that also?
I don't care how the British use the C word. It's posted on an American board and it's offensive to American women. The OP could have found some way to address this issue without using that particular tweet.
Like one of the many articles talking about this. The article below would have the added advantage of naming the man who did the shooting, while not including any slurs against women. He has been identified as Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.
https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php
Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man
Iggo
(47,534 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)But have a wonderful day anyway.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)You ever get tired of moving them goalposts?
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:09 PM - Edit history (1)
No, you're right. I read it again. You didn't ask me what I'd do. You asked me if I'd defend them.
My answer is basically the same, though: "No. I'd consider the source and remember it's not always about me."
I do apologize, though, for misrepresenting what you said. That was some sloppy reading on my part.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I'm an American woman who doesn't find offense in that tweet (or every fucking little thing). Accept that not everyone speaks the same as you.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Just sayin'
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)I wasn't happy about that either, but posted what I had received.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)And some of them name the Illinois hunter, Guy Gorney of Manhattan, Ill.
https://www.chron.com/nation/article/Trophy-hunter-who-killed-sleeping-lion-in-video-13703718.php
Trophy hunter who killed sleeping lion in video IDd as Illinois man
Duppers
(28,117 posts)I already *hate* these people so intensely.
Iggo
(47,534 posts)All of them.
Iggo
(47,534 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)
Also, just say No to death porn.
pazzyanne
(6,543 posts)I truly see red and want to when I hear something like this. The people who do this (including the orange one's sons) do not deserve the air they breath. That is all.
world wide wally
(21,734 posts)The shooter. The guy patting him on the back, and Donald Trump Jr.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)That tag should be generally and always applied to everything that correcrly offends us ha!
Death, Taxes, and Donald Trump Jr.
Poverty, Crime, and Donald Trump Jr.
Sex, Drugs, and Donald Trump Jr.
It's brilliant and it should be its own meme.
oldlibdem
(330 posts)He has family and friends. Shame the jeepers out of him.
Metro135
(359 posts)and leave him alone on the Serengeti for a week. We'll see how mighty a hunter he is then.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)But Naked and Afraid is one or the very very few reality TV shows I can sit through...
Because you can either 'hack it' as god fuckin made you, or you can Be Fuckin Hungry.
Watching the learning process for that..feels...idunno...good and dirty all at the same time I guess heh...
Ohiogal
(31,895 posts)this was going to be an article about Dumpy Jr.
Goodheart
(5,307 posts)God damn that motherfucker!!!!!
bitterross
(4,066 posts)How small and mushroom-shaped is his penis?
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Whether they are sleeping or walking through the woods with their kids, they are just living their life without even knowing that hunting exists and someone is trying to kill then with a weapon they can't comprehend and no chance to fight back.
All of it is cowardly.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Response to Bayard (Original post)
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tymorial
(3,433 posts)And yet I would bet the Powerball jackpot from yesterday that many are thinking it too.... him sleeping etc etc.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Hunting a lion with a spear and your bare hands might...r it might just confirm for me that that type of person is worthless and an evolutionary deadend...
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)What an outrage! I would love to personally kick his ass!
Judi Lynn
(160,448 posts)flvegan
(64,404 posts)I wish him luck with his life going forward.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)keithbvadu2
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