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lindysalsagal

(20,653 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 12:32 AM Mar 2019

Girls were forced to wear skirts at school to 'preserve chivalry.' So they sued -- and won.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/03/30/girls-were-forced-wear-skirts-school-preserve-chivalry-so-they-sued-won/?utm_term=.c8aae98a32e4

By Kayla Epstein March 30 at 4:35 PM North Carolina

Every so often, Charter Day School in North Carolina would hold fire or tornado drills in which students had to kneel and protect their heads from flying debris or crawl on the ground to avoid imaginary smoke.

But girls had a much more immediate threat to fear: the boys.

“I don’t think the boys were supposed to be looking up our skirts, but they did,” former student Keely Burks said in a statement to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina. “I wished I was wearing pants or shorts during those drills.”

She was prohibited by the school’s uniform policy.


Hot damn!!!! Treating girls like it's the 14th century! If that's the case, the boys should not be allowed running shoes made from synthetics, electronics of any kind, and they should remove any and all electronics from the school!! No school bells, no lights, no heat, no running water in the bathrooms. I mean, if we're gonna go all medieval, then let's start with latin and quit when they can read the bible. No standardized tests, give them all quills, parchment and inkwells!!!
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Girls were forced to wear skirts at school to 'preserve chivalry.' So they sued -- and won. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Mar 2019 OP
At a guess, if they are going medieval, they wouldn't allow girls to study anyway (you know, keep alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #1
I'm trying to imagine the mindset required to approve Hortensis Mar 2019 #2
Wasn't that long ago marlakay Mar 2019 #3
We had to wear skirts back in the '70s Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #4
Yup, I recall those days Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #6
We didn't wear uniforms - except for white dresses on special occasions Rhiannon12866 Apr 2019 #14
When I was in 7th grade, KatyaR Mar 2019 #12
It was the same for us - except at boarding school we had to go from building to building Rhiannon12866 Apr 2019 #15
"Preserve chivalry?" DFW Mar 2019 #5
Girls had to learn "their place." Well, EFF THAT!! lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #7
Florida Public School (Elementary) HockeyMom Mar 2019 #8
I had to wear skirts until college. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #9
These evangelicals and their political goons are no different than malaise Mar 2019 #10
1970: NY state: I remember when the teachers all rebelled and wore "pant suits." lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #11
I graduated from high school in 1963. MineralMan Mar 2019 #13

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
1. At a guess, if they are going medieval, they wouldn't allow girls to study anyway (you know, keep
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 01:50 AM
Mar 2019

them barefoot and pregnant).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. I'm trying to imagine the mindset required to approve
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 02:16 AM
Mar 2019

that description, "to preserve chivalry." Must have imagined it sounded, what, tastefully old fashioned and principled or something?

marlakay

(11,447 posts)
3. Wasn't that long ago
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 02:27 AM
Mar 2019

In the 60’s public school bay area CA I wore dresses until I was in 7th grade, then it was nice slacks or dresses until high school, then 1972 all heck broke loose and we could wear whatever we wanted, long hippy dresses, micro miniskirts, backless tops, jean cutoffs, etc.

It was crazy because it was all new....

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
4. We had to wear skirts back in the '70s
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 03:03 AM
Mar 2019

At my boarding school when we had to be outside in the winter to change classes we could wear pants, but they had to be the right kinds of pants, no jeans, especially not those with holes. My roommate was constantly getting sent back to our room to change.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
14. We didn't wear uniforms - except for white dresses on special occasions
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:58 AM
Apr 2019

My boarding school had been there since 1879, after all. My friend went to Catholic School and they did wear uniforms - and I remember that they rolled them up since shorter skirts were the norm back then, LOL. But in public school girls wore skirts and not even boys wore jeans. I remember when the school picnic was unexpectedly canceled, the boy who sat next to me was sent home to change!

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
12. When I was in 7th grade,
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:30 AM
Mar 2019

girls couldn't wear pants, not even if the weather was extremely cold, UNLESS the school made an announcement over the area radio station that it was appropriate for that day. We played softball during our lunch breaks, and we couldn't wear pants even then--we could wear shorts under our dresses but no pants. And no jeans, ever.

A couple of years later by the time I got into high school, they had changed the rules and jeans and pants were allowed.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
15. It was the same for us - except at boarding school we had to go from building to building
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:03 AM
Apr 2019

In the winter and we could wear pants then, just not jeans. Though by my senior year they had even relaxed that. And it sounds like you were in school at the same time as my brother - who was four years behind me. He stayed and graduated from public school and I can remember picking him up from school once and all the kids were wearing flannel shirts and jeans! What a difference only a few years made!

DFW

(54,338 posts)
5. "Preserve chivalry?"
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 04:49 AM
Mar 2019

WHAT century is this from again?

Do they keep their own lances for jousting matches, or do they rent them from their local Renaissance Fair prop shop?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
8. Florida Public School (Elementary)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:35 AM
Mar 2019

where I worked at had uniforms, but there were options. Yes, they had a uniform jumper, but none of the girls over the age of around 7 wore them. They wore khaki walking shorts, just like the boys. The little ones who wore the dress, also wore bike shorts underneath it. As the boys used to sing to us many, many years ago; "I see London. I see France. I see someone's underpants." Humiliating. So these girls were supposed to go to Phys Ed, on the Playground in dresses with only their panties underneath? Even when I was at an All Girls Catholic HS back in the stone age, we had a separate gym uniform. It looked like that baseball uniform from "A League of their own". However, even this had these baggy, attached bloomer things underneath.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
9. I had to wear skirts until college.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:29 AM
Mar 2019

I graduated HS in 1966.

We always dressed up for church.

Then I had to wear uniforms that were dresses at the bank I worked at. Not only that but our uniforms matched the decor.

The men had to wear suits and ties.

I don't own a dress now.

malaise

(268,903 posts)
10. These evangelicals and their political goons are no different than
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:32 AM
Mar 2019

the extremists from other religions

lindysalsagal

(20,653 posts)
11. 1970: NY state: I remember when the teachers all rebelled and wore "pant suits."
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:17 AM
Mar 2019

I remember someone in my family who organized a teacher rebellion in a public middle school in central NY state.

The principal had been sending teachers home who dared to wear pants. It's unimaginable, but I remember it clearly.

So, they picked a day when they knew the principal needed all teachers on board, and they all wore "pant suits." The pant suits were thick, stiff, bulky, and long: Mid thigh tunics that revealed nothing of one's figure. They were about as sexy as a nun's habit.

And from that day on, the principal gave up and had to allow them to wear pants. Here's an example: This one's silk, but I remember clearly they were thick, stiff double knit, a new synthetic polyester fabric.

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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
13. I graduated from high school in 1963.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:42 AM
Mar 2019

Girls at my HS were required to wear skirts or dresses to school. A year after I graduated, they got rid of that rule, finally. it never made sense to me in the first place.

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