10,000+ lies... Why won't the media use the word "propaganda"?

[zaj]

Trump, Putin, McConnell, Barr, Graham, Pence... Everything is part of a deliberate GOP disinformation propaganda campaign and cover-up.

Why won't any media use the proper term?

Bring in historians, social science researchers, and groud the use of the term in proper journalism context. But stop avoiding the obvious.

[delisen]

1. Word Propaganda takes up headline space

[unblock]

2. if that were the driving consideration, they'd have started using "lie" ages ago.

[delisen]

4. "Lie" is different. It is a power word that

media avoids except when media itself is highly politicized and nasty. Tabloids and shills like Hannity always used Clinton "lies."

On propaganda-I much prefer it. It has a history. I don't like the term "fake news." I think propaganda say so much more and implies a coordinated campaign of deliberate lies to deceive about important, even life/death matters such as war.

The polite press seems to only use "lie" when it becomes an indictable offense -

[zaj]

6. Fake News is an attack on the media...

It furthers the authoritarian agenda.

Propaganda exposes the agenda.

Huge difference.

[Kurt V.]

3. bc that would infer they're part of it.

[trev]

5. They *are* part of it.

[zaj]

7. The media are among the most important barriers we have now.

This isn't a good use of energy today. The media is fighting for democracy too.

[trev]

9. Are they? My sense of the situation

is that they are giving all leeway to the Republicans, and passing along the GOP talking points.

I'm not referring to the normal liberal-leaning commentators, but to the major news outlets. Can hardly even trust the NYT anymore.

[UniteFightBack]

10. Gee Whiz you sound just like rump. nt

[trev]

15. Right.

[zaj]

13. Watch Fox News to see a world without journalism...

Washington Post
New York Times
MSNBC
CNN

I'm not saying that the media hasn't become driven by ratings and profit, and there is room for *much* improvement. But let's be real here.

Fox News is propaganda. The media as a whole is far different than Fox News.

As they say, "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good".

It's dangerous to undermine the imperfect institutions of journalism that are fighting for democracy.

[trev]

14. I know all about Fox News.

[zaj]

16. So you know how dramatic a difference there is between...

... all other media and propaganda.

[trev]

17. Of course I do.

But my impression still stands: The MSM has not confronted Trump the way they should have.

I will admit they are coming around, with Barr, though.

[UniteFightBack]

11. Anyone who says differently only helps this fake prezident degrade the media further. I can't

understand it myself.

[trev]

18. A quote from Daily Kos.

Headline: "By Elevating Trump's 'Spying' Claims, Reporters Continue to Mislead Their Readers"

"New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt has nearly 200,000 Twitter followers, but few will click through to the article underlying the tweet above, and fewer still will read it through. They will see only the tweeted both-sides comparison of an 'alarmed' FBI paired equally with the notion that Trump has been given 'ammunition' to charge that investigating potentially criminal conduct by members of his campaign amounted to 'spying' on it."

This is what I'm talking about. The MSM are not pressing the real issues, but are leaving Trump plenty of wiggle room to pursue his propaganda.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/2/1854903/-By-elevating-Trump-s-spying-claims-reporters-continue-to-mislead-their-readers?detail=emaildkre

[Kurt V.]

8. yep

[UniteFightBack]

12. Plenty of the tv people use propaganda all the time. nt