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still_one

(92,060 posts)
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:21 PM May 2019

Glenn Greenwald's shameful performance on Fox News

"he Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald has been on a crusade since the 2016 election to thoroughly combat the extensive reporting and analysis linking the Russian government and intelligence agencies to the interference in the 2016 election. Since the release of the Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s final report, which concluded without establishing that there had been any conspiracy between President Donald Trump’s campaign hand the Russian government, Greenwald has vociferously declared victory and claimed that he has been vindicated and those who have covered the story have been shown to be con artists.
And on Fox News Thursday night, Greenwald joined host and hero to white supremacists Tucker Carlson to continue his victory lap. But despite claiming to be a leftist, he gratuitously devoted himself to smearing Democrats and the media while playing directly into Trump’s public relations strategy — all while lying on numerous counts."

"“The Democrats have put all their eggs in one basket, which is that they’ve insisted the central theme of the Trump presidency is that he was a Russia agent who collaborated with the Kremlin in the election, and they all agreed that Robert Mueller was going to be empowered to get to the bottom of this, and we were all going to accept whatever it was the Mueller found,” Greenwald told Carlson. “And what Mueller found was that the entire conspiracy theory was a hoax. That there was no evidence to establish that it was true.”"

"This is flagrantly wrong on many levels, so it fits in well on Fox News. First, it’s just not true that “Democrats have put all their eggs in one basket” and that that basket was the Russia investigation. In 2018, the Democrats running across the country almost uniformly ran on health care. Russia wasn’t even a secondary issue, except insofar as Trump’s bizarre praise of President Vladimir Putin and other dictators shows his corruption — but many Democrats didn’t campaign against Trump at all, preferring to focus on issues relevant to their constituencies. Not a single 2020 Democratic presidential candidate has spent much time at all discussing the Russia investigation unless reporters ask. Much of 2017 was focused on a fight over health care and taxes, public relations battles that Democrats have arguably won.
And House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — the most powerful Democrat and the party’s de facto leader — has fought Trump on border wall funding and the government shutdown. When asked about impeachment, she said she was uninterested unless Mueller’s conclusions really changed the circumstances — but she never acted as if that was an inevitable possibility."

And, of course, Mueller’s report didn’t prove that the Russia investigation was based on a hoax. It found extensive connections between the Trump campaign and Russia, including a business deal from the Trump Organization to potentially build a Trump Tower Moscow that was ongoing ahead of the election. Trump’s personal lawyer later sentenced for engaging in a criminal coverup of this deal. Trump’s Campaign Chair Paul Manafort and Deputy Campaign Chair Rick Gates were found to have been Ukrainian agents, and they were also working to pass internal polling data along to a Russian oligarch during the campaign during the election via someone Gates believed to be a Russian “spy.” There are many more suspicious contacts. Mueller didn’t conclude any of these amounted to a conspiracy, but he certainly didn’t find that any suspicion of such a conspiracy was a “hoax.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/glenn-greenwalds-shameful-performance-on-fox-news-shows-how-hes-betraying-his-own-values-2/



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Glenn Greenwald's shameful performance on Fox News (Original Post) still_one May 2019 OP
His level of self-delusion is pretty remarkable. TwilightZone May 2019 #1
my sentiments exactly still_one May 2019 #2
Speaking of shameful, where is Matt Taibbi hiding? Hassler May 2019 #3
Taibbi was pushing the same nonesense as Greenwald regarding next Russian involvement still_one May 2019 #4
Remember all the Greenwald fans that were on DU? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #5
It's not maxsolomon May 2019 #7
Most of them are no longer here. The few who are are keeping MineralMan May 2019 #8
Greenwald, Assange, Snowden... to hell with these freaks. VOX May 2019 #6

TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
1. His level of self-delusion is pretty remarkable.
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:25 PM
May 2019

That's what happens when one believes that one can never be wrong about anything, even when one is wrong about pretty much everything.

It dates back to his Salon days. He couldn't ever admit he was wrong then, either. His articles would have a dozen corrections at the end labeled as breathless "UPDATES!!!" explaining away his misleading and/or just flat-out wrong assertions.

One of my recent favorites - a month or so ago, he claimed that MSNBC and CNN were "state TV". Oh, the irony.

maxsolomon

(33,239 posts)
7. It's not
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:50 PM
May 2019

so there's no point any more.

If you need some Greenwald defense, look no further than Amy Goodman's show. They want to marry him.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
8. Most of them are no longer here. The few who are are keeping
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:55 PM
May 2019

silent, for the most part. As we move deeper into primary season and on to 2020, I expect to see many return, but probably not with Greenwald's name at their fingertips, since that would give them away.

Still...

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. Greenwald, Assange, Snowden... to hell with these freaks.
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:16 PM
May 2019

They’ve added nothing but more chaos and confusion, to the point that they seem to be participants in the worldwide nationalist/populist mess.

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