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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Sat May 4, 2019, 04:05 AM May 2019

I just mixed religion with science. Not sure how its going to go over.

I put this on a deep right christian facebook page that asked the question...'Is God okay with people being transgendered?'


If the world is like a computer program and God is the coder, almost everything that is happening is because he wants it to. People being trans, abortion, school shootings, racism, elitism, human trafficking, addiction, mental illness.....etc.... all of this stuff could be deleted from the program easily by the one writing it, if that's what they wanted.

Occasionally a bug crashes the system or a virus hits it and you need to delete it, you get a hardware failure and something needs to be replaced so you can restore it back to a previous working baseline.... but for the most part, WHATEVER is happening, right here, right now, is because it is supposed to. Just like with what happened yesterday and just like what is going to happen tomorrow.

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bitterross

(4,066 posts)
2. I suspect you'll hear a lot about the "gift" of free will
Sat May 4, 2019, 04:59 AM
May 2019

I'm just going to bet you'll get several responses that say no, it's an abomination. God isn't okay with it. But God gave people free will to make their own decisions. That being transgendered is not really about being born in the wrong body, but about people making a "choice" that will displease God.

It's the same argument they pull out about any LGBTQ issue.

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
3. The free will argument is God's "Get out of Jail Free" card.
Sat May 4, 2019, 06:33 AM
May 2019

Something bad happened to you? Well, you used your free will to fuck up. I didn't do it.

lark

(23,091 posts)
4. What my mom would call predestination seems to be the central thrust in your post.
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:27 AM
May 2019

I believe in free will, more or less. Of course, there are those who have little if no choice at all in their lives, they were born slaves or their mommy died and they are orphans and in the foster system and the vast majority of us have no choice in the financial or legal standing of their parents. So, you get the start you get and that can determine a lot of things and usually does. However, there is the possibility of overcoming life's' obstacles and being successful, at least to your personal standards.

I see drumpf as an obstacle to be removed, not an inevitability. IF he wins a 2nd term, the danger to our country and it's way of life will also be inevitable and our constitution overturned or just totally ignored. It's up to us to do everything we can to block that. I intend to work FT for the Democratic Party and/or it's general nominee, I am retired and I can do this for the cause and everyone I care about. I will not just let drumpf steal another election without speaking up. Maybe it;s futile? However, we did flip my county blue in the midterms for the first time in decades (30 years?),so being organized and energized did make a difference, although the repug party hid 42 boxes of mostly Dem votes and stole the governorship and senate seat, the lawless assholes.

harumph

(1,898 posts)
5. Well, that would be so with "structured programming" - but not with
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:32 AM
May 2019

true randomization. I'm not talking about algorithms that produce "pseudo random" numbers.
If I accept the possibility this is a simulation,
it's incredibly more sophisticated than any simulation we could possibly program at this
time. One salient question is why a (God-like) being or beings would run a simulation
like this anyway - if all outcomes were known - why go to the trouble? Hence, if I accept the possibility that
this is a simulation, then I'm inclined to believe that there may be multiple simulations are running
at once - and the outcome of any one simulation is not known. Perhaps the (God-like) beings
are at present trying to find an outcome that doesn't result in our destroying ourselves.
You may think that the simulation we're in sucks - but assuredly there are even more sucky ones.

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