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Why isn't potus lying knowingly to the public an automatic felony? (Original Post) lindysalsagal May 2019 OP
K&R this is a great question. Kurt V. May 2019 #1
Lying, in general, is not a crime. Voltaire2 May 2019 #2
Because only lying under oath is a crime manor321 May 2019 #3
Politicians are notorious for lying in general at140 May 2019 #4
For starters, there is no such thing as an "automatic felony" Second, who decides what is a "lie"? tritsofme May 2019 #5
Because they all lie. MichMary May 2019 #6
We would have no Presidents then. UniteFightBack May 2019 #7
There has to be an oath. treestar May 2019 #8

Voltaire2

(12,962 posts)
2. Lying, in general, is not a crime.
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:28 AM
May 2019

But aside from that, who would determine that the president uttered a lie? And would anything the president says, regardless of circumstances or context, that was not true subject the president to this “automatic felony”?

at140

(6,110 posts)
4. Politicians are notorious for lying in general
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:30 AM
May 2019

Unless they are lying under oath, they usually get away with it.

tritsofme

(17,370 posts)
5. For starters, there is no such thing as an "automatic felony" Second, who decides what is a "lie"?
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:35 AM
May 2019

Not a very well thought out idea.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
6. Because they all lie.
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:42 AM
May 2019

I read a book by Vincent Bugliosi (I think) in which he said that when Jimmy Carter told the American public that he would never lie to them, that was his first lie.

There are times when they HAVE to lie.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. There has to be an oath.
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:56 AM
May 2019

For example, the Delaware code (based on the Model Code, which a lot of states have):

§ 1221 Perjury in the third degree; class A misdemeanor.

A person is guilty of perjury in the third degree when the person swears falsely.

Perjury in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.


That's the lowest crime on the scale.

It shows what we have come to. Used to be if you were shown to be lying it would make you look bad. Now it seems no one cares.
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