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hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:37 PM May 2019

Now 500+ Former prosecutors asserting that Trump would be charged if not for DOJ's OLC policy

Note Neal Katyals comment on how noteworthy it is, given how few total former federal prosecutors there are nationwide. Note, this morning it was note-worthy to have approximately 275. These former prosecutors are NOT happy

The list is now at more than 500: 500+ former federal prosecutors have signed onto a statement asserting that if the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel did not prohibit a sitting president from being indicted, Trump would be charged with obstruction of justice.


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Now 500+ Former prosecutors asserting that Trump would be charged if not for DOJ's OLC policy (Original Post) hlthe2b May 2019 OP
The list is growing! Poiuyt May 2019 #1
We should be making a list ... mawdhatter May 2019 #6
One of the signatories worked during Eisenhower's administration! n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #2
Ok, I get the tread slowly approach.. mawdhatter May 2019 #3
We need to rally public opinion gratuitous May 2019 #14
This is great LibFarmer May 2019 #4
Is that enough, mawdhatter May 2019 #7
Hey Bob Mueller are you listening? nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #5
That's a law that should be changed asap. blueinredohio May 2019 #8
not a law at all; just the official opinion of the Office of Legal Counsel of the DOJ... hlthe2b May 2019 #10
Is there a statement that the OLC rule about DURHAM D May 2019 #9
No... Neal developed the Special Counsel statute, not the OLC opinion on Presidential indictment hlthe2b May 2019 #11
648 signatures as of 5/7/2019 MadLinguist May 2019 #12
Tremendous... Thanks for the update hlthe2b May 2019 #13

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
1. The list is growing!
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:38 PM
May 2019

Maybe it would be easier to make a list of former fed prosecutors who don't think he should be indicted. I'm guessing it would be a lot shorter.

 

mawdhatter

(36 posts)
6. We should be making a list ...
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:52 PM
May 2019

They are being civil because they are ethically bound, but the people need to say enough is enough, this cannot continue to go on. The man literally called the a foreign adversary to discuss OUR country's investigation into his wrongdoings, had the nerve to laugh about it, told the American people what he did and think nothing of it being wrong. And probably working or signalling to do it again.

 

mawdhatter

(36 posts)
3. Ok, I get the tread slowly approach..
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:47 PM
May 2019

however, the chorus is getting louder and louder for the House to make a serious move to get the orange corrupt one out of the WH. It is indisputable that this man has committed a serious crime and is continuing to do so as we speak. I do not understand the passivity of any congressional member to allow this to continue to go on as though it is not a serious matter. In fact, we all should be screaming as loud as we can to say enough is enough.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. We need to rally public opinion
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:57 AM
May 2019

Right now, the public appears to be pretty evenly split on whether or not Trump should be impeached. We need to keep hammering the point home, convincing another two or three percent each week. Publicize the crimes, ignore Trump's bleats about "no collusion," and keep up pressure on our elected officials. Even Mitch McConnell might be forced to do the right thing if his constituents are vocal enough.

 

mawdhatter

(36 posts)
7. Is that enough,
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:54 PM
May 2019

why aren't the people calling Congress to get on the fast tracks and quit slow walking this process. Mueller should have been testifying the day after Barr...McGahn needs to be in this week. why the delay..

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
8. That's a law that should be changed asap.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:09 PM
May 2019

Anyone including the president should be charged with crimes if they're guilty.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
10. not a law at all; just the official opinion of the Office of Legal Counsel of the DOJ...
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:12 PM
May 2019

and if you read the history, it was originally a contrived opinion that was concocted only to clarify that that the VP COULD be indicted-- as Spiro Agnew's crimes piled up. They used the opinion to force his resignation, given he believed that indictment of a sitting VP was clear cut and legal, while the President dissimilarly was not.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
9. Is there a statement that the OLC rule about
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:10 PM
May 2019

not indicting a President needs to go?

I think Neal was the guy who reworked and clarified the rule a few years ago.

It is beyond stupid that a crook can gain the WH by committing a crime and once there Justice can't do a damn thing about it.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
11. No... Neal developed the Special Counsel statute, not the OLC opinion on Presidential indictment
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:16 PM
May 2019

I highly recommend Rachel Maddow's podcast, BAGMAN on Spiro Agnew that gives the history of this original contrived opinion. It is NOT what anyone thinks it is, though Ken Starr did revisit it again during his stint.


Here's a link to an excerpt of that discussion: https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/doj-policy-on-indicting-a-president-has-weak-basis-in-1973-memo-1446554691613

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