Is there anyone here who still thinks a 1.5 year pence presidency would be worse than trump

[ecstatic]

being allowed to finish his term??? trump--the career criminal who's actively courting more russian interference, actively courting white supremacists, illegally profiting from the office he holds, constantly trying to divide the country, constantly lying, constantly tweeting nonsense, and grossly unfit. Does anyone still prefer that? I honestly can't think of anyone worse than trump. There's no way pence would be reelected, BTW.

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Not me - and Pence would be easier to beat in 2020 nt

[StarfishSaver]

3. Trump was really easy to beat in 2016

Until he wasn't.

Be careful what you wish for.

One thing people are discounting is the Pence "honeymoon" that will give him a great boost if he's in the White House. People will be so exhausted from Trump, many of them will see him as a welcome change. This applies especially to Republicans who want nothing more than to vote for a Republican president but are disgusted by Trump. While they'd never vote for Trump, they'd be very happy voting for Pence over any Democrat running.

And you can kiss the Obama-turned-Trump voter goodbye.

I'm not saying this is a reason not to impeach Trump. But people shouldn't fool themselves into thinking that Pence would be some kind paper tiger pushover who'd serve a few months and be gone. We'd have to completely revamp our electoral strategy (including forgetting about trying to attract wayward Republicans a d instead focus on building and turning out our own base - which I'm all for anyway). We could be stick with him for 10 years instead of 10 months.

[John Fante]

5. Trump has a 90% approval rating with Republicans.The honeymoon is now.

Pence would struggle to match that seeing as how he isn't racist enough to galvanize the deplorables.

Biden will defeat Trump. He would annihilate Pence.

[StarfishSaver]

9. No one should make the mistake of underestimating him

Or assume that he is sure to lose.

We should know by now that anyone can beat anyone on any given day.

[ecstatic]

13. by the way, I was worried about trump from the jump. I wanted Cruz as

the GOP nominee. Annoying, smug, and easy to beat.

[John Fante]

14. I suppose. I just don't see a scenario where Trump is removed

from office and the GOP/Pence emerges unscathed from it.

[ecstatic]

10. pence is a robot with no personality. A hypocrite of the worst kind--

any "values" argument he'd attempt to make could be destroyed in seconds. Simply play a clip of him fawning over trump, the most vile president in US history. I don't see how the "never trumpers" would be OK with a trump-enabling hypocrite like him.
Also, he'd probably choose the most wacko VP available to appease trumpers, which would force the reasonable majority to our side.

[StarfishSaver]

12. Ok

I'd like to think we'd learned a few things from 2016, but I guess not

[walkingman]

2. Maybe not worse but definately sickening.

[Blue Owl]

4. A term only a mother could love

n/t

[FBaggins]

6. Maybe. Not sure.

I think Pence is plausibly more likely to win (particularly if the economy continues to grow and none of Trump’s mess sticks to the VP. A possible NINE years of Pence is far less appealing than getting past a hamstrung Trump Until Jan 2021

[emulatorloo]

7. No, and I never did. Pence has zero charisma and zero hold on the Trump fanatics

[JoeOtterbein]

8. No because a half-pence is about twice as much a coward as Trump who himself is a total coward so...

...half-pence will be more afraid of Congress. Better for us.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

11. Other than him bowing down to the Religious Nuts and Zealots...

... hmmm... at least can overcome the Religious Nuts when Pence is gone.

For the Russians...

Hmm.. 'Red Dawn sets orange oily stains in, never to come out!"

[JCMach1]

15. Yes ...

It would be... We would see the first xtian dominionist President
... Gilead.anyone?

[BigmanPigman]

16. I never felt Pence would be worse or as bad as tRump.

I said since before the inauguration that Pence doesn't have the TV star charisma and the cult following.

[Shell_Seas]

17. I never thought that. And argued with people about it. Trump is the absolute worst.