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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:11 PM May 2019

Trump's accounting firm emerges as the most unlikely hero of democracy


Trump’s accounting firm emerges as the most unlikely hero of democracy
Time is no longer on Trump's side.
Ian Millhiser
May 10, 2019, 12:38 pm


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To explain, various House committees seek documents that will reveal Trump’s finances, and potentially expose conflicts of interest that influence how Trump governs. One of these committees is the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, which subpoenaed Mazars — Trump’s accounting firm — seeking “documents and information relating to the firm’s preparation, review, and auditing of financial statements for Trump and his business entities.”

The purpose of this inquiry, according to the committee, is to examine “several specific instances where President Trump’s reporting of assets and liabilities materially differs from what was subsequently reported in his required financial disclosure filings submitted as a candidate for office and as a federal official,” and to determine whether new legislation is needed “to expand the scope, penalties, and periods covered by financial disclosure laws” and augment “criminal laws governing the reporting of financial information to financial institutions.”

Mazars, for its part, offered only token resistance to this subpoena. Before the subpoena was issued, the committee asked Mazars if it would voluntarily turn over Trump’s financial documents. Mazars responded with a very brief letter explaining that it could not do so because of various laws and regulations that prohibit “disclosure of confidential client information without client consent or receipt of a validly issued and enforceable subpoena.”

The committee took the hint, and issued such a subpoena.

Since then, Mazars has declared its neutrality in the dispute between Trump and Congress. In a document filed in the Trump litigation, the accounting firm explained that “the dispute in this action is between Plaintiffs and the Committee,” and that “Mazars USA takes no position on the legal issues raised by Plaintiffs, and requests no time for oral argument before the Court.”

Mazars’ neutrality is a big deal.
If the documents Congress seeks were solely in Trump’s possession, then Trump could deploy every possible obstructive tactic to keep Congress from obtaining those documents — and he would succeed until Congress obtained a court order requiring him to comply. Even after Congress obtained such an order, it likely would not be able to enforce the order until Trump exhausts his appeals.

But Mazars appears to have no interest in joining Trump’s resistance to the subpoena. To the contrary, its stated neutrality suggests that it will comply with the subpoena unless a court affirmatively orders them not to do so. Mazars’ neutrality, in other words, reverses the balance of power between Trump and Congress. Instead of being able to run out the clock, Trump now has to obtain a court order preventing Mazars from complying.

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https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-mazars-usa-house-oversight-subpoena-844a0fe30423/
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Trump's accounting firm emerges as the most unlikely hero of democracy (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
Good on them canetoad May 2019 #1
Probably not. lagomorph777 May 2019 #4
The best part is that the accounting firm has demonstrated that it is malaise May 2019 #6
Real shame canetoad May 2019 #9
Oh hell no SallyHemmings May 2019 #11
Thank You for posting.....Last 2 sentences above say it all: Stuart G May 2019 #2
This is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! malaise May 2019 #3
Rock steady, Mazars...just keep moving forward, steady as she goes...no drama...and then Leghorn21 May 2019 #5
at the end of the day barbtries May 2019 #7
That firm will go on long after True Blue American May 2019 #10
These are the folks who keep hope alive malaise May 2019 #12
Current ones are constrained by law. marybourg May 2019 #15
Yes and no malaise May 2019 #16
Not when continued trust in the marybourg May 2019 #18
K&R! gademocrat7 May 2019 #8
They have probably been stiffed on their Billings already Sucha NastyWoman May 2019 #13
"Trump now has to obtain a court order preventing Mazars from complying." Which he will FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #14
Exactly my first thought. n/t intheflow May 2019 #19
I believe the judge has expedited this and is holding a hearing next week. vsrazdem May 2019 #22
every bit helps when it comes to taking the criminal down. nt yaesu May 2019 #17
That may also mean that there is nothing fraudulent in the financial statements. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #20
K&R! calimary May 2019 #21
The Government sent me a tax bill a couple months ago, and I paid it. TrollBuster9090 May 2019 #23
Just. Do. Your. Jobs. B Stieg May 2019 #24
Seems to be a lot of holes in trump's defensive dikes. empedocles May 2019 #25
I wonder how many lawyers... stillcool May 2019 #26
Good news. lindysalsagal May 2019 #27

malaise

(268,715 posts)
6. The best part is that the accounting firm has demonstrated that it is
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:51 PM
May 2019

an independent professional body. This is such uplifting news. Well done.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. Thank You for posting.....Last 2 sentences above say it all:
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:33 PM
May 2019

"Mazars’ neutrality, in other words, reverses the balance of power between Trump and Congress. Instead of being able to run out the clock, Trump now has to obtain a court order preventing Mazars from complying."

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
7. at the end of the day
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:52 PM
May 2019

i guess they figured they'd be better off following the law. how refreshing. thinking it may also be a question of integrity and not having anything to hide?

malaise

(268,715 posts)
12. These are the folks who keep hope alive
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:23 PM
May 2019

Ad those 900+ former prosecutors - would be nice to hear from some current ones - judges as well and lawyers.
Time for professional institutions to stand up to these con artists, cheats and autocrats.

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
18. Not when continued trust in the
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:33 PM
May 2019

dispassionate professionalism of the the civil service is at stake.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,741 posts)
13. They have probably been stiffed on their Billings already
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:24 PM
May 2019

And they know that when charges of tax fraud come for Trump, he will claim it was due to their bad advice/mistakes.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
14. "Trump now has to obtain a court order preventing Mazars from complying." Which he will
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:25 PM
May 2019

do, and this will go nowhere fast.

I'm not hold my breath, as good as this sounds right now.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. That may also mean that there is nothing fraudulent in the financial statements.
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:50 PM
May 2019

So there is no reason to resist, on Mazars' part. It's not involved in political resistance.

But this is good that the acctg firm is ready to produce the financial information.

What could be interesting is that the financial information may have been given to Mazars. So it wants nothing to do with whether that core information given to it is truthful.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
23. The Government sent me a tax bill a couple months ago, and I paid it.
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:40 PM
May 2019

Does that make me a 'hero of democracy' too?

Sadly, I think we've slid pretty far into a nihilist dystopia when a private company becomes a hero of democracy for deciding to COMPLY with a Congressional subpoena UNLESS a federal court says otherwise.



As for McGann deciding to blow off a Congressional subpoena, I think his punishment should START with being DISBARRED. Maybe politicians, kleptocrats and gangsters think following the law is just a suggestion, but hopefully legal professional certification bodies don't!

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
24. Just. Do. Your. Jobs.
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019

And the rest will take care of itself. The system isn't perfect by a long shot, but it is still the best one.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
25. Seems to be a lot of holes in trump's defensive dikes.
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:55 PM
May 2019

A lot of information may be flowing out of those dike holes before long.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
26. I wonder how many lawyers...
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:21 PM
May 2019

it will take to keep Trump out of jail, and how many of them will get paid.

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