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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWays and Means Committee just subpoenaed Trump's taxes from treasury and IRS.
CNN They want them by May 17.
spanone
(135,823 posts)malaise
(268,931 posts)Get the snacks
mopinko
(70,081 posts)srsly, tho, i have a trumpkin in my life, and it has been a running joke about watching the impeachment hearings w him.
i hope it actually happens, cuz if he cracks, my faith in humanity will be restored.
not a typical one, just a radicalized old hippy that fell down the breitbart hole. not in it for the racism, but for the deep state.
he is my sign post for the future of this country. srsly.
if there is sunshine and snacks in my future, it will all be ok.
malaise
(268,931 posts)King Con's tired act is wearing thin.
That should be real fun - watching impeachment hearings with cuz.
mopinko
(70,081 posts)and the deluge is building.
might need to hit the costco for a case of champagne. swear that's what i will be drinkin the first day.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Not under normal oversight, which a judge may very well deny if he/she doesn't like the Democrat's stated reason. It may not meet a legislative purpose (yes that is still required despite the "shall" language). Hopefully the judge rules with us.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)"Preliminary to" a judicial procedure.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Whether it's part of oversight or impeachment has no legal significance.
And there is no requirement that Congress prove it meets a "legislative purpose." If there were, the statute would so state.
onenote
(42,695 posts)Congress can't do things it doesn't have Constitutional authority to do. However, Congress' legislative authority is extremely broad and the power to investigate is inherent in the power to legislate, so the bar that the Committee would have to overcome is very low.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)In this instance, the Committee clearly detailed its legislative purpose, so that's not an issue here.
And, as I said, Treasury's duty to produce the documents is the same, regardless whether it's requested in connection with oversight or impeachment.
iluvtennis
(19,850 posts)testimony before the House Committee. The assertions that Trump would boost up his income/level of worth for loan purposes and then lower his income/level of worth for tax purposes. That's no only unethical, but illegal.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Keep living rent free in ME45's head.
Takket
(21,560 posts)What was it the other day that Mnuchin refused?
spooky3
(34,439 posts)This is a subpoena.
onenote
(42,695 posts)I would have thought that the best way for the committee to proceed would be for it to immediately file a petition for a declaratory ruling and injunctive relief with the district court seeking a ruling that Mnuchin is obligated to produce the returns under the tax code and directing him to do so (with judicial contempt as an enforcement mechanism).
However, by taking the additional step of issuing a subpoena for the documents, the committee can still go directly to court without having to issue a contempt citation that would have to be prosecuted by the DOJ and can inform the court it had exhausted all of its remedies.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Popcorn and beer stat...
Ding dong... in 3...2...1....
And if all the judges move quickly, Trump's head will spin so fast he'll launch that thing on his head into orbit.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)briv1016
(1,570 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)They already have them...All the time between now and May 17 for the crooks to cook up something and avoid giving them.
Give them by Tuesday May 14, 2019 or you go to jail, period.
Now, a bet without betting anything, that IRS does not comply...by May 17th...any takers?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)was when it comes to policing their own until a criminal organization took over.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)we are in a fight for this country the first to shoot or you will lose.
NewDayOranges
(692 posts)The IRS, why don't they also request the tax returns filed with the state of NY? The NY AG announced she would be only too happy to get Trump's return from the NY Dept of Revenue for the Congressional Committees that need to see Trump's returns...
calimary
(81,220 posts)It is guaranteed to be beautiful!
And weve been starving for it!