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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:40 PM May 2019

Barr and Rosenstein do not seem worried about anything.

I saw them on TV laughing and joking about everything that is going on. Contempt, no problem it's a joke, Mueller testifying, no problem. Not a care in the world, It's really depressing.

Can anyone explain Rosenstein and what he has done. Talk about playing both sides of the fences. Someone should subpoena him.

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PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
1. Barr and Rosenstein probably are not worried about anything.
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:44 PM
May 2019

From their perception (and past experience), things are well in hand.

I think this sucks and is dangerous but has been dangerous for a long time now; they are picking fruit.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. Rethuglicons are crooks, liars and cheats.
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:48 PM
May 2019

They laugh and snicker every time they believe they have put another one past the Democrats.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
3. Whistling past the graveyard? Or else just secure in the belief that pardons await them
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:51 PM
May 2019

if they actually do get in trouble. But they're fools if they can count on Spanky pardoning them, so they have to keep kissing his ass publicly no matter what they might think privately. I think Comey was absolutely right when he said Trump ate Rosenstein's soul, but I don't think Barr ever had one. One of the other talking heads remarked that Rosenstein is weak, which made it easy for Trump to eat his soul in a few quick gulps, without even having to chew.

triron

(21,984 posts)
4. What do you expect from PR photos? That they look nervous and fearful?
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019

Who knows what they are thinking out of public eye.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
6. i think rosenstein was always in on the cover-up, he was just more detailed about it.
Sat May 11, 2019, 01:26 PM
May 2019

barr's idea of a cover-up (and donald fraud's as well) is simply to lie about it, deny it, bully your way through it.
no nuance, no thought, really everyone knows you're guilty but you act like they're not going to do anything about it and usually they don't do anything about it.

rosenstein knew that there had to be an investigation, and mueller was enough of a boy scout that just shutting him down wasn't going to work. so let it continue. as long as they were indicting russians and people donald fraud had no further use for, it was fine. better than fine, it gave people the necessary sacrificial lambs without causing donald fraud any real pain.

the investigation finally gets shut down right before they can really sink their teeth into donald fraud or his kids.

it stops with enough detail for people to see that it was a serious investigation so they can't scream that it was all a cover-up.

but it stops without indicting anyone really damaging to donald fraud, at least nothing he can't manage given the controlled media.


i really think they did their part of the cover-up and donald fraud should have just gone along with it. bad press for a week or two and then it's pretty much over and done with.


and then donald fraud goes and picks an completely unnecessary high-stakes fight with congress, giving them fresh cause for impeachment....

ancianita

(35,950 posts)
8. That would be just the thing to turn Americans against the FBI, wouldn't it. This is all
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:20 PM
May 2019

so weird creepy, I feel like we're being swept along by some stealth undertow and have no eye on any shore, or where it will leave us.

The Democratic leadership had better steer this ship with resolve and perserverance, because right now, the currents are rough on all of us.

leftieNanner

(15,068 posts)
9. I remember the images of Rosenstein
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:47 PM
May 2019

in the halls of Congress after he met with Paul Ryan and agreed to give the House Republicans a lot of the information from the Mueller probe. At that point I began to question Rosenstein's loyalties to the country and the Constitution.

Now, looking back, unfortunately I was right.

Ponietz

(2,939 posts)
10. I recall relief after Rosenstein had Mueller appointed
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:57 PM
May 2019

and thought his almost 30 years at DOJ counted for something. He’ll turn out to be either the greatest domestic triple agent in American history (unlikely) or just another soulless sellout swept into Addleall Schlump’s wake.

RockRaven

(14,913 posts)
11. Anti-Trumpists were so grateful to Rosenstein for appointing Mueller, and so worried that
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:05 PM
May 2019

anyone below him in the hierarchy would bow to Trump's bidding and shut down Mueller if they were given the power to do so that there was insufficient attention paid to the apparent conflict of Rosenstein being a witness to -- AND PARTICIPANT IN -- Trump's obstruction, which was itself a subject of Mueller's investigation.

On one hand Rosenstein should have been accosted daily with questions about his failure to recuse himself. On the other hand, Mueller would have been shut down sooner if Noel Francisco (the next un-recused AND Senate-confirmed person down in the org chart) had been given the chance.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
13. Rosenstein needs to go to Oz and get a heart. He is the cowardly lion. He has zero backbone.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019

Say “Boo” and he shits his pants.

H2O Man

(73,511 posts)
14. Recommended.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:20 PM
May 2019

Rosenstein is a weak person. He agrees with whoever he is with at the moment. Hence, he knowingly writes the excuse for firing Comey, then hires Mueller. He says he can wear a wire to record Trump, then thanks Trump for being so darned nice. He protects Mueller, then stabs him in the back.

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