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Sun May 12, 2019, 07:59 AM

So you're waiting on your flight at the airport

You hear the flight is delayed because of a problem with the pilot.
Oops the pilot has been arrested for the triple murder of his neighbors and their friend.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-pilot-indicted-triple-murder-arrested-louisville-airport-n1004656
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A Christian County, Kentucky, grand jury charged Christian Richard Martin with three counts of murder, one of arson, one of attempted arson, burglary in the first degree and three counts of tampering with physical evidence. The indictment was unsealed Saturday after Martin's arrest.

Kentucky Attorney General Andy Beshear said Saturday that Martin was responsible for the 2015 murders of Calvin and Pamela Phillips and their neighbor Edward Dansereau.

So I try to find the details - clearly this piece of shit was pissed that the neighbors helped his ex-wife.
https://www.wsmv.com/news/family-offers-k-reward-for-information-into-triple-murder/article_8ba8488d-a661-56f1-af4c-5f963990c87f.html
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Matt Phillips, Calvin and Pam’s son, said before the murders, his mother told him that she had seen their across the street neighbor, Kit Martin, walking in the fields by their home.

"My parents felt like they were being surveilled, watched," Matt Phillips said.

An I-Team investigation exposed the link between the Phillips and Army Major Kit Martin.

While Martin was divorcing his wife, Joan Harmon, Cal and Pam Phillips offered their rental property to her and her children.
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You have to wonder if the fact that Martin was an Army Major is the reason this indictment took so long.

Throw away the keys.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:16 AM

1. Then again this may have been a bigger motive

In the moving process, Cal Phillips came upon military discs labeled “secret,” and he and Harmon turned them in to the FBI.

The discovery of the classified materials lead to a court martial for Martin.
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I think they meant led

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:20 AM

2. Evil. I wonder why they had a pilot who had been court martialed, in the 1st place?

This guy had been court martialed in 2015, altho maybe not finalized? Doesn't the airline do background checks?

This man is pure evil. Not clear on why he killed the neighbor, unless he just happened to be there.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #2)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:38 AM

3. I suspect that he is well connected

It took them long enough to charge him for these horrific murders

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #2)

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:38 PM

13. Disks marked "Secret" were found in his house

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While Martin was divorcing his wife, Joan Harmon, Cal and Pam Phillips offered their rental property to her and her children.

In the moving process, Cal Phillips came upon military discs labeled “secret,” and he and Harmon turned them in to the FBI.

The discovery of the classified materials lead to a court martial for Martin.

Two weeks before the court martial was to begin, Cal and Pam Phillips and Dansereau were murdered.

More: https://www.wsmv.com/news/family-offers-k-reward-for-information-into-triple-murder/article_8ba8488d-a661-56f1-af4c-5f963990c87f.html

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Response to csziggy (Reply #13)

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:43 PM

14. I read that. I wonder why the airline hired a pilot who had been court martialed?

Court martial proceedings were started in 2015. He was just arrested for the murders.

Seems to me he would have been placed on suspension, at least, until the court martial was concluded. Then fired.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #14)

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:54 PM

15. I bet he lied on his application

But it makes me wonder how much vetting companies do on their employees.

That makes another reason to not fly any more. I've been worried since my nephew was accepted into a pilot training course. By the time he was 20 he'd had five major accidents where he was found at fault, totaling five cars of his own - and maybe others involved in the accidents. He'd been kicked out of high school for mooning passing cars while on a school trip. I don't think he ever got his GED.

But he was allowed into this pilot program, no sweat. Good thing he is a complete waste of space - he dropped out, got a refund on the fees (paid by his grandmother) and blew that tens of thousands of dollars in less than six months.

When I thought he might become a pilot, I planned to know which airline he would work for and make sure I never was under one of their flight paths - too much chance he'd crash a plane as casually as he crashed cars.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #15)

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:59 PM

16. Electronic background checks are the norm these days in corporations.

I would hate to think they don't also do that in airline corporations.

Maybe military actions don't show up in background checks. If you've been court-martialed, you've been found, or plead, guilty to a crime, I think.

That's scary to think your nephew was let into a pilot program w/that background. Yikes!

Where I worked as a paralegal, another paralegal was fired after she was hired, but background check was run later. They found she had a misdemeanor of theft conviction (from an NSF check, which she later had to pay). She was immediately fired. Partly for the crime, and partly for lying on her application. (However, this WAS a law firm, so adherence to the law is sort of required.)

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #16)

Sun May 12, 2019, 01:42 PM

18. Wasn't Martin Air Force?

How could he hide that?

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Response to malaise (Reply #18)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:59 PM

19. Maybe military records aren't part of regular records that can be checked?

Maybe they stay in a person's military record, so the crimes aren't reported and checked in regular govt records?

I checked something on a military record once, many years ago. A witness or something? I think I was able to get some sort of record electronically, to verify basic things.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #15)

Sun May 12, 2019, 01:15 PM

17. OK you made me laugh re the nephew

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:48 AM

4. Then there was the Eastern Airlines pilot's wood-chipper murder case (1986)

https://www.newstimes.com/local/article/23-years-ago-Richard-Crafts-was-more-willing-to-256633.php

An Eastern Airlines pilot murdered his wife and disposed of her body with the help of a wood chipper (remember the scene in the movie "Fargo"?). The wood chipper case was Connecticut's first murder conviction ever gotten without a body.

But I don't think Captain Crafts was arrested at the airport in uniform.

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #4)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:01 AM

7. But I don't think Captain Crafts was arrested at the airport in uniform

Ha

Damn - didn't remember this one

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:56 AM

5. Just a coincidence.

A Christian County, Kentucky, grand jury charged Christian Richard Martin ...


That term "Christian" seems to be used rather loosely nowadays.

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Response to erronis (Reply #5)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:01 AM

6. I noticed that and did chuckle

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:06 AM

8. Wow this is frightening

When pilots go bad ....

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #8)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:12 AM

10. Well at least these two didn't take down the entire aircraft

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32072218

In the 10 minutes it took for the plane to plummet through the sky, Lubitz did not say a word and his breathing remained normal - despite repeated attempts by crew members and air traffic control to get him to respond.

The Airbus descended at a rate of about 3-4,000ft per minute. The last radar contact was at 09.40:47 GMT at 6,175ft.

During the very last moment of the recording passengers can be heard screaming. Mr Robin said he believed they were unaware of what was happening in the cockpit up until this point.

The plane hit the mountain at 700km/h (430mph) an hour. "Death was instant," he added.
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Imagine those last ten minutes for other passengers and crew

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:08 AM

9. Damn!

What to say? I hope his victims find justice and perhaps peace in whatever realm might await.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:19 AM

11. You know how those airline guys are!



Sorry, couldnt resist

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #11)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

12. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:58 PM

20. A slight aside...

In case someone saw the name of Kentucky's Attorney General Andy Beshear and thought, "now hold on..."

According to his Wiki page, Andy Beshear is the son of Steve Beshear, Kentucky's last good governor.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #20)

Mon May 13, 2019, 05:40 AM

21. Thanks for that n/t

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