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Sun May 12, 2019, 10:48 AM

 

Third lien on Trump hotel brings alleged unpaid bills to over $5 million

In the frenzied final six weeks of work at the hotel, while Trump touted the project on the campaign trail, AES of Laurel, Md., claims it assigned 45 members of its staff to work 12-hour shifts for nearly 50 consecutive days to get the lights, electrical and fire systems prepared on time.

“We had people there well over 12 hours a day for weeks because they had a hard opening of Sept. 12 and you can’t open if the lights don’t work and the fire alarms don’t work and the fire marshal can’t inspect it,” said Tim Miller, executive vice president of AES. “There is a lot of work that went into that hotel, and it didn’t happen by accident.”

Trump got his wish: The hotel was ready enough that on Sept. 16 he held a campaign event there honoring veterans, which was carried live on national television. He touted the hotel as having been completed “under budget and ahead of schedule” and said that when it opened officially the following month it would be “one of the great hotels anywhere in the world.”

But around the same time, Miller said, the Trump Organization and its construction manager, Lendlease, stopped paying AES. Three days before Christmas, AES filed a mechanic’s lien with the D.C. government alleging that it was out almost $2.1 million. “Merry Christmas and a happy new year to us,” Miller said.
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The AES filing brings the total of allegedly unpaid bills on the hotel to more than $5 million. Washington-area plumbing firm Joseph J. Magnolia Inc. and Northern Virginia construction company, A&D Construction, are seeking $2.98 million and $79,700 respectively.
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Miller said he simply did not want the company, family-owned and founded 32 years ago, to have to eat the costs. The hotel’s total price tag was around $212 million. Trump claims he is worth $10 billion.

“We’re not in this for any sort of political reasons,” Miller said. “We have no ax to grind, political or otherwise. We’re a business. We have 700 employees that we pay every week. We have bills. We are effectively financing this work, and we don’t think it’s right. That’s really it.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2017/01/06/third-lien-on-trump-hotel-brings-alleged-unpaid-bills-to-over-5-million/

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ehrnst May 2019 OP
malaise May 2019 #1
Botany May 2019 #2
spooky3 May 2019 #3
BlueJac May 2019 #4
Raster May 2019 #5
CrispyQ May 2019 #15
Raster May 2019 #23
Blue_true May 2019 #44
Wounded Bear May 2019 #6
world wide wally May 2019 #31
Laffy Kat May 2019 #7
Blue_true May 2019 #45
Jarqui May 2019 #8
CaptainTruth May 2019 #9
FakeNoose May 2019 #10
SunSeeker May 2019 #11
Honeycombe8 May 2019 #12
demmiblue May 2019 #14
Honeycombe8 May 2019 #13
radical noodle May 2019 #29
Honeycombe8 May 2019 #33
tinrobot May 2019 #16
dlk May 2019 #17
keithbvadu2 May 2019 #18
vlyons May 2019 #19
Heartstrings May 2019 #21
struggle4progress May 2019 #20
Ilsa May 2019 #22
Lucky Luciano May 2019 #24
BlueJac May 2019 #25
louis-t May 2019 #26
Vinca May 2019 #27
SayItLoud May 2019 #28
world wide wally May 2019 #30
W T F May 2019 #32
Ilsa May 2019 #38
Blue_true May 2019 #46
Midnight Writer May 2019 #34
Maru Kitteh May 2019 #35
ehrnst May 2019 #37
Maru Kitteh May 2019 #41
ehrnst May 2019 #43
DeminPennswoods May 2019 #36
WiseElder May 2019 #39
ehrnst May 2019 #42
meow2u3 May 2019 #40
Blue_true May 2019 #47

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

1. The vile MAGAcretin is an uncouth reprobate

on steroids

Get thee to the greatest page - this needs to be seen

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:55 AM

2. Well it is not like he started a phony university in order to scam money from the widows of the ...

.... Iraqi war so they could learn all about becoming rich on real estate like Donny Trump.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:56 AM

3. I wish all contractors like this would simply refuse to bid on Trump projects. Nt

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:58 AM

4. K&R

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:59 AM

5. This is not right. HOWEVER, the construction world is FULL of people tRump* shafted....

...for various costs at his various projects. Why did these people think this would be any different? Because he was POTUS, and because we expect a POTUS to be honest and trustworthy? Silly, silly people.

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Response to Raster (Reply #5)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:45 AM

15. Exactly.

It's not like this is the first time he's stiffed a contractor for a ton of money. That info, the evidence that the man has zero honor or integrity, was out there for everyone who wanted to be an informed voter. I have a cousin suffering Trump regrets & claiming ignorance about Trump's character. I said, yeah, too bad you didn't spend some of that time you spent posting hate stuff about HRC, Googling "lawsuits against Trump" instead.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #15)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:02 PM

23. No shit. It's very telling that people in tRump*s NYC hometown voted almost 10-1 AGAINST tRump*...

...they weren't fooled. Neither were Black women. Imagine all the people that voted for the "Reality Show POTUS," and all they got was an epic fail. Oh yeah, FUCK YOU MARK BURNET, British gardener makes good, and the largest enabler of tRump* on the planet. Look up the term "cafeteria Christian." You'll find Burnet's picture.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #15)

Mon May 13, 2019, 06:40 PM

44. What happened to cause your cousin to see the light?

Trump has cheated people left and right all his life. The information was out there in plain sight.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:01 AM

6. Imagine that, Trump cheating sub-contractors...

Who'd a thunk?

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #6)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:20 PM

31. He's the working mans hero

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:02 AM

7. Even then he had a reputation for not paying contractors or employees.

Why would anyone agree to work on his properties is beyond me.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #7)

Mon May 13, 2019, 06:46 PM

45. Think about it. A company like AES with 700 employees,

if they had told Trump to go screw himself because he cheated past contractors, in the situation that existed in 2016, they would have gotten roasted. The Press would have ignored all the evidence about how Trump was a deadbeat to focus on AES not wanting to work on Trump's hotel, the Press would have come up with all types of theories about how politics was playing a part in the decision. The Press bends over backwards to get the right's claims before tv viewers, they always have.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:04 AM

8. Looks like they will need to get in line ....

USA Today: Trump doesn’t pay his bills
AMONG THOSE WHO SAY BILLIONAIRE DIDN'T PAY: DISHWASHERS, PAINTERS, WAITERS
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Donald Trump's Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills - WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454

NY Times: How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html

He's been doing this for years ..

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:06 AM

9. Older article, but relevant. Also, 23 liens against his Doral golf club.


Trump golf club renovation hit with 23rd lien, this time for $236K

[link:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/jose-lambiet/article94916657.html|

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

10. I guess there's another bankruptcy coming soon

It's the only way the Chump Organization knows how to operate their businesses.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:14 AM

11. Fucking grifter Trump crime family.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:35 AM

12. What year? WaPo is pay-wall, so I can't read it. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #12)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:41 AM

14. 2017 (the date is also in the link). n/t

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:40 AM

13. What I think happens when these cos. deal with a celebrity or huge conglomerate...

is that they don't require payments on an ongoing basis. They may get a percentage up front, and that's it? Then they wait to bill the conglomerate upon completion? Or they bill them along the way, and disregard the fact that the conglomerate doesn't pay those bills, and continue working on the project.

The jobs are big, and are feathers in the cap of the service businesses, so they cut the conglomerate slack.

So, although bills are required to be paid, it's hard for me to feel too sorry for them. They know Trump's history of stiffing contracts and filing for bankruptcy multiple times.

Trump sometimes doesn't pay services after a while, I've read, because he just decides, "I've paid enough." Then that forces the service companies to sue him to get their money. Sometimes a service business won't do that, probably, because suing is very expensive. Esp when your defendant is Trump, who has expensive lawyers to make sure it costs you big.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #13)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:32 PM

29. Most commercial construction

is billed monthly. The work is divided into types, then billed by percentage complete. The catch is the retainer which is often 10%, is held back to pay after the work is totally complete and everything passes the punch list. That 10% can be a ton, and if the last two or three payments aren't made either, that could add up to a bunch of money.

Once a contractor is well into the job, they don't have much time to complain at the end if those last payments aren't coming in a timely fashion.

I worked as the controller in construction companies for 40+ years, so I know how the cheaters work.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #29)

Mon May 13, 2019, 01:08 AM

33. +1. nt

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

16. #Brokeahantas

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:21 PM

17. Deadbeat Donald Does it Again

Given Trump’s longstanding reputation for stiffing contractors, why would any sensible business person do contracting work for him? He’s a crook.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 01:43 PM

18. Some of Trump's bankruptcy lawyers later sued him for non-payment.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 02:56 PM

19. and yet the press never ever asks him publicly

why he doesn't pay his bills. Why he has mechanics liens on his properties. Why he stiffs working people and family businesses?

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Response to vlyons (Reply #19)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:01 PM

21. Or why his products/brands are made in China?

That should have been pushed bigly in 2016!

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:00 PM

20. "People say I'm not paying? Well, that just means I'm smart!"

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:02 PM

22. Tell donald the workers are going to take it out "in trade" with

Ivanka. See if he ponies up then.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:22 PM

24. I don't know how else to say this, but he's such a dick. nt

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:14 PM

25. The Biggest Loser Ever...

just keeps on winning!

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:19 PM

26. "Under budget" just means he's going to stiff contractors.

That's the only way he's ever brought anything in "under budget".

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:20 PM

27. Trump is a deadbeat grifter and he's doing to this country what he's done to his business.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:08 PM

28. Eliz Warren said it best during 2016. tRUMPS are Money Grubbing Grifters. nt.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:15 PM

30. Then make it political!

That is the only thing he understands besides pretending to have money

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:34 PM

32. Elizabeth Warren should start calling Trump "BROKEAHONTAS"

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Response to W T F (Reply #32)

Mon May 13, 2019, 07:58 AM

38. If trump starts in on her again, I hope she does. nt

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Response to W T F (Reply #32)

Mon May 13, 2019, 06:55 PM

46. Brokewannabemogul is longer but better, I believe. nt

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 03:59 AM

34. Trump is just using his Executive Privilege. I think it's in the Constitution or something.

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 04:26 AM

35. I have NO SYMPATHY at this point for anyone dim enough to enter a contract with him. It's not like

he's never done this before. It's not like the fact that he routinely cheats contractors is some kind of secret.

From this point forward, if you expect to be paid by that dribbling dotard, you'd better get 100% up front. Otherwise, any loss is your own damn fault.







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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #35)

Mon May 13, 2019, 07:10 AM

37. There are a lot of smaller contractors who didn't know. The woman who did the wedding cake for his

 

third marriage for instance.

This isn't something that they might have known - they just knew him as the rich guy from TV who was this "great businessman."

You don't fault the victim of a crime. You fault the criminal.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #37)

Mon May 13, 2019, 01:04 PM

41. Corrected. I should have been clearer. I meant going forward.

Anyone accepting work from him/entering a contract with him at this point with al that exists in the public domain, his reputation for swindling, cheating and losing well-known . . .

Excepting the army of abused and intimidated migrants in servitude on his properties - I have no sympathy for anyone accepting any work from him now. The man is a living garage sale. Caveat emptor.

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #41)

Mon May 13, 2019, 05:40 PM

43. That's fair.(nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 05:44 AM

36. Grifters gonna grift

nt

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 08:57 AM

39. Contractor deserves not to get paid.

Any contractor dumb enough to work for Trump and not get paid in advance deserves not to get paid. Call it a stupid tax.

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Response to WiseElder (Reply #39)

Mon May 13, 2019, 01:14 PM

42. That's a sweeping generalization, isn't it?

 

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Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 09:31 AM

40. #DeadbeatDon

#Brokeahontas

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #40)

Mon May 13, 2019, 06:57 PM

47. I like DeadbeatDon better.

And since he hates being called Donald, DeadbeatDonald.

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