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Sun May 12, 2019, 02:05 PM

More 'heartbeat' abortion bans advancing in South, Midwest

If a new Mississippi law survives a court challenge, it will be nearly impossible for most pregnant women to get an abortion there.

Or, potentially, in neighboring Louisiana. Or Alabama. Or Georgia.

The Louisiana legislature is halfway toward passing a law like the ones enacted in Mississippi and Georgia that will ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, about six weeks into a pregnancy and before many women know they're pregnant. Alabama is on the cusp of approving an even more restrictive bill.

State governments are on a course to virtually eliminate abortion access in large chunks of the Deep South and Midwest. Ohio and Kentucky also have passed heartbeat laws; Missouri's Republican-controlled legislature is considering one.

Their hope is that a more conservative U.S. Supreme Court will approve, spelling the end of the constitutional right to abortion.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-heartbeat-abortion-bans-advancing-in-south-midwest/ar-AABdRgK?li=BBnbcA1

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Reply More 'heartbeat' abortion bans advancing in South, Midwest (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 OP
kimbutgar May 2019 #1
Hekate May 2019 #2
MineralMan May 2019 #3
kimbutgar May 2019 #4
Rambling Man May 2019 #5
moondust May 2019 #6
Wounded Bear May 2019 #7
moondust May 2019 #8
Maru Kitteh May 2019 #9

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 02:31 PM

1. So most of the old confederate states are going to take away women's rights

I wonder how the women feel about that? Will they voice their objections by voting against the Repukes in future elections?

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:13 PM

2. Gerrymandering affects legislative bodies.Every time one of these laws has been put to a direct vote

...of the people, those laws have been rejected. But up there in their state legislatures, it is a different story.

As you know, this has been a very long term project (30+ years) of fanatics hell-bent on making women's bodies the property of men again. Roe vs Wade hangs by a thread in the SCOTUS as challenges to these many state laws work their way up.

I've been very perturbed that there have been a spate of DU-comments this year claiming that all is well and Roe cannot be overturned -- that the fault lies only in the South and only with stupid women who support stupid men, and that the Lysistrata-fantasy will work.

I hope you will join me in my effort to educate them otherwise.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:17 PM

3. There is great danger in this. It's happening in the states that can

push such laws through and have them signed by a right-wing Governor. The goal is a case before the SCOTUS. They hope that the Supreme Court will ratify this approach to their goals.

Will it? Possibly. Very possibly.

Not all states will accept such laws, of course. So, once again, the nation will be divided among states that respect a woman's right to choose and states that let men control women's rights.

If that happens, only a Constitutional Amendment will restore those rights nationwide.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:18 PM

4. Most certainly

I remember as a kid the older daughter of a family friend who died because of a back alley abortion. She was always so nice to me and years later when I was older my Mother told me the young girl was ashamed she got pregnant and her family would have been shamed so she had the botched abortion. My mother said the funeral was awful.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:28 PM

5. women are not human beings to these folks

they are chattel

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:32 PM

6. Iowa's declared unconstitutional in January.

Iowa 'fetal heartbeat' abortion restriction declared unconstitutional

District Court Judge ruled it violated the state constitution.

Case may have some tips for other states.

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Response to moondust (Reply #6)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:39 PM

7. Still could be appealed...

It doesn't matter if it is passed at the district level. The idea is to get it to the SC with Trump's judges in place.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:46 PM

8. No doubt

one or more of these cases will make it to the SC(R)OTUS.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2019, 09:04 PM

9. A hale and hearty UP YOURS to all the

Susan Sarandons and other prancing purity ponies who visited this travesty on ALL OF us by going with Vladimir Putin's second (or third) favorite candidate Jill Stein, or staying home, or whatever other reckless, selfish, privileged crap they engaged in that gave us Trump.

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