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hlthe2b

(102,107 posts)
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:41 PM May 2019

(VF): Major Donors aren't stepping up. "There's Trump fatigue," says longtime Republican donor.




“The 2020 Bumper Sticker Should Be: ‘Same Policies, but We Promise Less Crazy’”: Trump Fund-Raising Is in Crisis, and Even Don Jr. Is Sounding the Alarm

With a dysfunctional fund-raising organization and disappointing battleground polling numbers, major donors aren’t stepping up. “There’s Trump fatigue,” says a longtime Republican donor

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/trump-2020-fund-raising-don-jr

On Tuesday night, several hundred Republican donors gathered in the Presidential Ballroom at the Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue for a fund-raiser to unofficially kick off Trump’s 2020 re-election. Trumpworld eminences including Vice President Mike Pence, campaign manager Brad Parscale, and counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway were on hand to pitch donors to sign on as “bundlers” that would leverage their networks to help the Trump campaign raise Parscale’s stated goal of $1 billion by Election Day. The event was the brainchild of longtime Bush family supporter Jack Oliver, who pioneered the bundler model for George W. Bush’s 2004 re-election and has been tapped by Parscale to win over establishment donors that shunned Trump in 2016. Donors that raise $100,000 will qualify to join the “Builders Club” and earn perks such as campaign dinners, briefings and “commemorative Trump Victory gifts.”

It’s going to be a hard sell. According to sources, Trump campaign officials are sounding the alarm over the president’s early fund-raising hauls. Trump’s son Don Jr. has privately warned donors that Trump only raised around $30 million in the last quarter, and pointed out that the number fell far short of the roughly $45 million Barack Obama raised in the second quarter of 2011 for his 2012 re-election bid, according to a source briefed on the conversations (A source close to Don Jr. disputed this). “They need more money, and there’s no enthusiasm. They need to amp it up,” a Trump donor told me. “Wall Street never liked Trump from the beginning. Goldman is filled with people who were Obama fund-raisers,” another Trump donor told me. In 2016, Trump raised only about $351 million. Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign took in $483 million.


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(VF): Major Donors aren't stepping up. "There's Trump fatigue," says longtime Republican donor. (Original Post) hlthe2b May 2019 OP
Aw, just go ask Russia for the money . . . . . no_hypocrisy May 2019 #1
Yep. Daddy will pay. Cha-ching. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #27
Bad Vlad will come to his whores rescue, they'll funnel plenty of funds through packs & 3rd parties uponit7771 May 2019 #2
and thru the NRA KaDee May 2019 #8
I'm betting NRA won't be able to contribute much, if at all. dixiegrrrrl May 2019 #57
The shtick no longer works malaise May 2019 #3
"The 2020 Bumper Sticker Should Be: 'Same Policies, but We Promise Less Crazy'" bearsfootball516 May 2019 #4
They will never DENVERPOPS May 2019 #21
PLEASE use the word "DemocratIC" when appropriate. It is known as an Doitnow May 2019 #25
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #29
Republicans like to use democrat as an adjective because democratic sounds too good Poiuyt May 2019 #39
Beat me to it! SCVDem May 2019 #53
+10000000 bronxiteforever May 2019 #54
"...a democrat president..." Sorry - that just jumped out at me. calimary May 2019 #26
Thank you. Makes me wonder who they are, too. Doitnow May 2019 #28
+1. It's the DemocratIC Party. A DemocratIC President. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #31
It's not fussy Rambling Man May 2019 #41
Hmmm, someone who uses the term "democrat president" and brings us smirkymonkey May 2019 #45
My thoughts exactly. llmart May 2019 #59
It does make one wonder. Especially considering calimary May 2019 #61
I don't like this sort of negativity. MarvinGardens May 2019 #37
Hope this continues not fooled May 2019 #5
While his conman status was not secret before the NYT expose', still why would wealthy donors hlthe2b May 2019 #6
Many of the Wealthiest GOP Donors Are Harmed By Trump's Draconian Policies Indykatie May 2019 #9
An item out there sez WOMEN are leading SHTLER's donations -huh?!1 UTUSN May 2019 #7
There are a few Iliyah May 2019 #10
Problem is, Drumpf was WAY outspent in 2016 and he and the Russians still took it. MadDAsHell May 2019 #11
By stealing it. Iliyah May 2019 #15
Weird you use the appellation "Drumf" LanternWaste May 2019 #47
"DrumPf" ;) MadDAsHell May 2019 #60
Betsy enid602 May 2019 #12
BUT.... the ultra rich always want more, more, more, and then some more after that. groundloop May 2019 #19
I'm Thinking His Plan Is to Grab the Campaign Funds and Flee the Scene DoctorJoJo May 2019 #13
I keep thinking that IS one of the options. calimary May 2019 #30
He's spending all of the campaign money... SergeStorms May 2019 #34
He's spending all of the campaign money... SergeStorms May 2019 #35
+1 uponit7771 May 2019 #40
I doubt this. trump has 90% GOP approval. They view him as useful bulldozer against the libs. EveHammond13 May 2019 #14
The GOP is shrinking, though NewJeffCT May 2019 #43
Global trade wars and cheating at golf have consequences. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #16
Shirley, a destabilized economy and a destabilized political situation is bad for big business MasonDreams May 2019 #17
They Have "Only" Raised $350 Million DallasNE May 2019 #18
The root cause of the "fatigue" 90-percent May 2019 #20
That's a shame. F'in traitors. Go to Putin for your rubles. Evolve Dammit May 2019 #22
Congressional hearings, NY AG investigations, SDNY investigations and more... NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #23
Maybe they're worried about their donations rocktivity May 2019 #24
what happend to Trump always saying I don't need your money Im rich Ill pay for my own campaign. TeamPooka May 2019 #32
No chance now of another yuge tax cut now the we have and will have a Democratic house. docgee May 2019 #33
Classic Throwing Good Money After Bad.....nt global1 May 2019 #36
The GOP is the Party of Trump & the Only Good Thing to Come Out of His Presidency is... dlk May 2019 #38
Many of the big money donors weren't Trump guys in the first place. hughee99 May 2019 #42
LOL - half of Trump's cabinet has connections to Goldman Sachs NewJeffCT May 2019 #44
It's possible that the Donors are giving the money, Dan May 2019 #46
That would be good news, but we know the media will give treestar May 2019 #48
FUCK THEM Skittles May 2019 #49
I'm thinking about changing parties to vote for his primary opponent Scotch-Irish May 2019 #50
William Weld. He's old school Republican--waaaay back when they were not insane. hlthe2b May 2019 #52
I knew a couple of lifelong Republicans in Connecticut NewJeffCT May 2019 #63
I want to know what businesses that the remaining major donors represent Politicub May 2019 #51
Since they don't pay their fair share of taxes i love it when they waste their money. sarabelle May 2019 #55
The ONLY thing that'll make billionaires back away from 45: he's causing LO$$ES. VOX May 2019 #56
Sure he can use his billions to self fund.... Soph0571 May 2019 #58
There was an article a few weeks back stating the exact opposite NewJeffCT May 2019 #62
Interesting GusBob May 2019 #64

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
57. I'm betting NRA won't be able to contribute much, if at all.
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:36 PM
May 2019


Now that all of the money problems have come to light.

malaise

(268,670 posts)
3. The shtick no longer works
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:49 PM
May 2019

and this fraudulent scumbag is being exposed more and more by the minute -this jig is up.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
4. "The 2020 Bumper Sticker Should Be: 'Same Policies, but We Promise Less Crazy'"
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:52 PM
May 2019

That is why Pence is so dangerous. He’ll pass the exact same stuff as Trump, but he carries the illusion of normality.

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
21. They will never
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:23 PM
May 2019

The Republicans will never allow a democrat president in the whitehouse. My suspicion is they will torpedo Trump just before the election, get Pence in the Presidency and then Run Pence as their candidate. They will say to their voters, "see we saved the nation and want it turned over to a fine outstanding man that we can all agree is a fine Republican man......." and we will get all the same, but with much less daily drama.....
They can't run the risk of letting Trump/Pence lose to any Democrat.
A Democrat president and Democrat House would overcome the Republican Senate votes on everything. The Repubs in the Senate are all dirty or dirtier than Trump and they have all been pushing the Republican Agenda every day since Trump took office. The Repub Senate is merely using Trump as a diversion to do a TON of nefarious shit behind Trump's daily smokescreen.

People also need to understand that Trump is in no way smart enough to orchestrate and execute all the myriad of stuff they are doing. There is someone(s) behind the scene directing this......Has anyone heard anything from Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al since Trump got in office or even before he defeated the other Republican Presidential candidates. Do you think those corrupt individuals from "W"'s administration just rode quietly off into the sunset?????????

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
25. PLEASE use the word "DemocratIC" when appropriate. It is known as an
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:59 PM
May 2019

adjective. "Democrat" is NOT. Look it up. This really irks me.

Poiuyt

(18,112 posts)
39. Republicans like to use democrat as an adjective because democratic sounds too good
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:06 PM
May 2019

How can anybody be against someone who is democratic?

calimary

(81,090 posts)
26. "...a democrat president..." Sorry - that just jumped out at me.
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:00 PM
May 2019

May I respectfully offer - that particular political-context usage is incorrect. And often a tip-off. I’m kinda compulsive about little details like that, which just automatically flash red lights at me. It has frequently been a giveaway that the user is not what he/she appears to be.

Always better to say “Democratic President”. Adjective (or modifier). Not a noun.

This is your fussy old schoolmarm speaking...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
45. Hmmm, someone who uses the term "democrat president" and brings us
Mon May 13, 2019, 12:05 PM
May 2019

a downer of a message. Keep an eye on that one.

calimary

(81,090 posts)
61. It does make one wonder. Especially considering
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019

the kinds of stealth manipulations that abounded last time. Here, too.

But I’ve gotta admit - the reaction to it here now is encouraging to see. Looks like many of us have our antennae up and our awareness sharpened, about this little detail in particular. Very small, minute, and easily buried. Kind of a stealth thing under the “I’m concerned that...” cover. Good to see people noticed it - and get what the attempted manipulation is.

I’m SERIOUSLY gratified to see that so many of us here are wise to that little tactic. It’s a very small detail, but it’s often a GREAT BIG “tell”.

Many are fooled by this effort to sow disruption and discord among Democrats.

But not here.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
37. I don't like this sort of negativity.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:38 PM
May 2019

You seem to be saying that there is no way a Democratic presidential candidate can win.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
5. Hope this continues
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:52 PM
May 2019

just remember the point of those red don supporters bundling, etc. is to use $$$ to purchase ads on the teevee to convince the ignorant or delusional to vote for an idiot authoritarian who would step over them as they lie dying in the gutter.


hlthe2b

(102,107 posts)
6. While his conman status was not secret before the NYT expose', still why would wealthy donors
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:01 PM
May 2019

ever consider tossing him ANYTHING? Isn't there contempt in the financial world for such overt and clumsy cons?

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
9. Many of the Wealthiest GOP Donors Are Harmed By Trump's Draconian Policies
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:11 PM
May 2019

From immigration to tariffs their businesses are suffering from Trump's idiotic and hateful policies. Those tax cuts can't make up for all the other bad shit for the donor class.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. There are a few
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:17 PM
May 2019

billionaires from the USA willing to give him a tons of money. But equally, there are a few billionaires from outside out of the USA, from other countries that will give tons of money. Corporate media will still cover forever stating that his base loves him.



 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
11. Problem is, Drumpf was WAY outspent in 2016 and he and the Russians still took it.
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:25 PM
May 2019

In fact IIRC correctly, he weaponized Secretary Clinton's bigger campaign war chest as a bad thing.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
15. By stealing it.
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019

That is what the GOP with the help of foreign countries are planning on right now.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
47. Weird you use the appellation "Drumf"
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:20 PM
May 2019

Weird you use the appellation "Drumf" after having argued against an "unecessary (sic) label"

calimary

(81,090 posts)
30. I keep thinking that IS one of the options.
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:05 PM
May 2019

I think if he think the heat’s really on, he’s gonna try to sneak outta town under cover of darkness some night. Probably more like in an unmarked limo or some such. Out the kitchen staff’s entrance with the hallway and outside lights briefly “shorted out” or something.

There have gotta be lots of eyes on that whole compound at all times.

SergeStorms

(19,151 posts)
34. He's spending all of the campaign money...
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:55 PM
May 2019

on his army of Attorneys. Really, he must have hundreds of Attorneys working for him right now, and you know he's not paying for them. His mindless cult members are, and they don't care!

SergeStorms

(19,151 posts)
35. He's spending all of the campaign money...
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

on his army of Attorneys. Really, he must have hundreds of Attorneys working for him right now, and you know he's not paying for them. His mindless cult members are, and they don't care!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
43. The GOP is shrinking, though
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:35 AM
May 2019

Under Trump, fewer people overall identify as GOP. Many of the Never Trump Republicans are now independents or Libertarians.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
17. Shirley, a destabilized economy and a destabilized political situation is bad for big business
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:04 PM
May 2019

But don't call me Shirley

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
18. They Have "Only" Raised $350 Million
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:09 PM
May 2019

Cry me a river. We are still more than a year away. He could end up with well over $1 billion, smashing all previous records.

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
20. The root cause of the "fatigue"
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:21 PM
May 2019

is that more and more of us are aware trump is an outright TRAITOR and the only things he will do that could benefit the American people is whatever also puts money in his unseemly massive conflict of interest pockets!

And don't forget his leadership level republic co-conspirators. First order treason-weasels, and damn good at it, I must say.

-90% Jimmy

NoMoreRepugs

(9,366 posts)
23. Congressional hearings, NY AG investigations, SDNY investigations and more...
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:38 PM
May 2019

Just give the Mueller blueprint some time to bring more and more to full view.

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
24. Maybe they're worried about their donations
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:54 PM
May 2019

going toward his multi-million income tax debt...


rocktivity

TeamPooka

(24,204 posts)
32. what happend to Trump always saying I don't need your money Im rich Ill pay for my own campaign.
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:16 PM
May 2019

a real billionaire wouldnt need their money

docgee

(870 posts)
33. No chance now of another yuge tax cut now the we have and will have a Democratic house.
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:34 PM
May 2019

Maybe they figure, why waste the money.

dlk

(11,509 posts)
38. The GOP is the Party of Trump & the Only Good Thing to Come Out of His Presidency is...
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:45 PM
May 2019

Trump has shown the world, in no uncertain terms, exactly every ugly thing the GOP stands for. To say it isn’t pretty is an understatement.

Dan

(3,537 posts)
46. It's possible that the Donors are giving the money,
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:17 PM
May 2019

But Trump being Trump - he and his family are just stealing the cash.

My thoughts.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
50. I'm thinking about changing parties to vote for his primary opponent
Mon May 13, 2019, 03:20 PM
May 2019

In the primaries. If only the republican donors would support that guy....can’t even remember his name right now, but he acts like he’s more sane than tRump.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
63. I knew a couple of lifelong Republicans in Connecticut
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

that did that in 2008 to vote against Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary.

In Connecticut, the primaries are closed and if you want to change parties (D to R or vice versa) you need to do it months ahead of time. So, these guys were pre-meditated in their hate of Hillary. I think you can switch from Independent to D or R right up to primary day, but switching parties needs to be done well in advance.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
51. I want to know what businesses that the remaining major donors represent
Mon May 13, 2019, 03:24 PM
May 2019

So I can be sure not to patronize them, and let them know why.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
56. The ONLY thing that'll make billionaires back away from 45: he's causing LO$$ES.
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019

Every time he starts in with China tariffs, the markets take an ass-dive.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
62. There was an article a few weeks back stating the exact opposite
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

The Koch Brothers and other big donors were lining up to donate this time after being skeptical of Trump in 2016 and because they're happy with the tax cut scam.

So, somebody is not accurate.

Found the link:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/22/trump-campaign-donors-1283459

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
64. Interesting
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

It seems as if the Politico piece was written as a projection of the upcoming event described in the Vanity Fair piece written after the event occurred. So things may have changed after the fact?

Its hard to get to the accuracy. Scare tactics always seem to be used in fund raising

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