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CousinIT

(9,240 posts)
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:33 PM May 2019

Should 11-year-old girls have to bear their rapists' babies? Ohio says yes.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-perspec-zorn-abortion-rape-heartbeat-ohio-child-argentina-20190509-story.html

An 11-year-old rape victim in northwestern Ohio is pregnant, according to news reports, and a highly restrictive state law on abortion signed last month says a girl in her position must carry and deliver her rapist’s baby.

In arguing the abortion issue I used to test the zealotry of my anti-choice opponents with a hypothetical question with similar facts, and was often told such a situation was too far-fetched to be probative. But now the hypothetical is real.

A barely pubescent girl has been impregnated, allegedly, by a 26-year-old man who had sex with her on multiple occasions, and the pure anti-abortion position is that the law should prevent her from terminating her pregnancy unless it’s to save her life or spare her grave bodily harm.

Ohio’s Human Rights Protection Act, signed April 11 by Republican Gov. Mike DeWine, is one of those “heartbeat” laws that ban abortion as soon as doctors can detect fetal cardiac activity, which starts at about six weeks of gestation, even before some women know they’re pregnant.

. . .

Such laws, passed recently by five other states, are among the extreme measures designed to bait the increasingly conservative U.S. Supreme Court into overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that recognized a woman’s right to an abortion in most circumstances.

Ohio’s new law doesn’t grant exceptions for rape and incest — exceptions favored by more than 70 percent of the population in numerous polls. And although local news outlets haven’t reported the estimated duration of this particular rape victim’s pregnancy, inevitably girls in her position will be legally compelled to endure the physical and emotional burdens of pregnancy and childbirth.
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Should 11-year-old girls have to bear their rapists' babies? Ohio says yes. (Original Post) CousinIT May 2019 OP
This is a Sexist and Cruel Form of Codified Child Abuse dlk May 2019 #1
This makes me Ohiogal May 2019 #2
Almost makes you wish Kasich was still Governor. nt Quackers May 2019 #5
Pro lifers are a very sick and scary bunch. Initech May 2019 #3
This Is So Disgusting And Evil colsohlibgal May 2019 #4
Six US states have passed these barbaric laws Hekate May 2019 #6
New republican meme: Rape is a 'misdeed' by a 'parent'. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #7
Republican: legitimate rape cannot get pregnant keithbvadu2 May 2019 #8
"Human Rights Protection Act"...What a fucking joke. GoCubsGo May 2019 #9
kick Maru Kitteh May 2019 #10
Wouldn't she still be entitled to an abortion? I imagine trying to force an 11 year old to Luciferous May 2019 #11
My thoughts exactly. It could easily kill her tiny body. n/t CousinIT May 2019 #12
EXTREMISTS CousinIT May 2019 #13
Monotheists maxsolomon May 2019 #14
Man who raped 12-year-old awarded joint custody of her child (not same girl as OP) CousinIT May 2019 #15
More accurately... just humans. LanternWaste May 2019 #16

dlk

(11,558 posts)
1. This is a Sexist and Cruel Form of Codified Child Abuse
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:57 PM
May 2019

This child’s life is knowingly and willingly being destroyed by religious and misogynistic zealots.

Ohiogal

(31,979 posts)
2. This makes me
Sun May 12, 2019, 09:37 PM
May 2019

Ashamed of my home state. All these creepy religious zealots signing these cruel bills into law should be forced to resign immediately! They are willfully perpetuating cruelty to all women and also minors!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
4. This Is So Disgusting And Evil
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:30 PM
May 2019

Making rape victims deliver and raise children resulting from rape is horribly unfair to the mother as well as the child.

Evil Jerks like DeWine disgust me......this is oppressive and it is all about getting Roe vs Wade reversed. We have to vote and fight to avoid a real life “Handmaid’s Tale”.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
6. Six US states have passed these barbaric laws
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:56 PM
May 2019

I wonder if that little 11 year old girl even knew she was pregnant? I know a woman, now in her 50s, who was 14 years old when a lodger in her family home "took advantage of her," as she puts it. Her homelife was pretty chaotic -- she was 7 months along before her mother finally noticed something was wrong and took her to a doctor. Turns out the SOB actually meant to make her pregnant.

MAGA-Land is so stratified that there are at least 6 states that qualify as Third World nations, and are pedalling backward as fast as they can.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
9. "Human Rights Protection Act"...What a fucking joke.
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:51 PM
May 2019

I don't see the 11-year-ole child's rights being protected here. Apparently, one ceases to be human once the leave the womb? Goddamn fucking hypocrites.

Luciferous

(6,078 posts)
11. Wouldn't she still be entitled to an abortion? I imagine trying to force an 11 year old to
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:16 PM
May 2019

give birth would cause her grave bodily harm! If this was my child, I would be taking her out of Ohio to get an abortion.

CousinIT

(9,240 posts)
15. Man who raped 12-year-old awarded joint custody of her child (not same girl as OP)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:54 PM
May 2019
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-raped-12-old-awarded-114904992.html

A man who raped a 12-year-old has been awarded joint custody of her child despite being convicted of her rape and another sexual assault on a child.

The convicted rapist assaulted the girl nine years ago and she subsequently became pregnant.

A judge has given Christopher Mirasolo, 27, parenting time and joint legal custody of the eight-year-old boy after a paternity test found he was the father.

Since his conviction for the rape in 2008, Mirasolo, from Brown City, Michigan, has been convicted of another child sex assault, for which he served four years in prison.

As reported by The Detroit News, the victim is now 21-years-old and her attorney, Rebecca Kiessling, is seeking protection under the federal Rape Survivor Child Custody Act to halt his access.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. More accurately... just humans.
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:01 PM
May 2019

As humans, we tend to act our worst regardless of imaginary deity, imaginary philosophy, imaginary political system, or a thousand other imaginary constructs we pretend are real, and simply use them as excuses for our own excesses and desires.

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