Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

G_j

(40,366 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:36 AM May 2019

This is a time for boldness, 45% of the American people calling for impeachment

Professor's Impeachment Prediction Based On 'Deep Study' Of Trump's Character, Career

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/12/722647643/professor-s-impeachment-prediction-based-on-deep-study-of-trump-s-character-care

May 12, 20195:09 PM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with American University professor Allan Lichtman about the prediction he made two years ago that President Trump will be impeached.

Excerpt from the interview

MARTIN: You wrote a book in 2017 called "The Case For Impeachment." And in your book, you said, neither Republicans nor Democrats will tolerate a compromised or treacherous president and that an impeachment trial would be quick. Does the reaction of Republican leaders who are standing so firmly behind President Trump change your calculus at all?

LICHTMAN: It really hasn't. Right now, the onus is on the Democrats. This is their historical moment. As Shakespeare put it, the tide is at the flood. They're either going to seize the tide at the flood, or they're going to be washed away by history and be reviled as worse enablers of Donald Trump than even the Republicans.

This is not a time for timidity on the part of Democrats. This is a time for boldness. You have now 45% of the American people calling for impeachment. That's before the House votes any articles. That's before trial. That's higher than the percentage that wanted to see Richard Nixon impeached when they began the impeachment process against him.

So right now, I am very disappointed with the Democrats. They are making the same mistake Democrats always make - being too timid, playing not to lose. And that is a sure remedy for losing and a sure recipe for not doing your constitutional duty. The only way to hold this president accountable with real pain is through impeachment, which strikes at his power and his brand.

...more...


Allan Jay Lichtman is an American political historian who teaches at American University in Washington, D.C. He is well known for predicting most of the presidential winners in the United States Presidential Election since 1984, including forecasting the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election remarkably early. Wikipedia
25 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
This is a time for boldness, 45% of the American people calling for impeachment (Original Post) G_j May 2019 OP
K&R !! That's ***HIGHER*** than Nixon post Saturday Nigh Massacre and Post Nixon Tapes revelation uponit7771 May 2019 #1
Today's Democrats are more risk averse... doompatrol39 May 2019 #2
Bull. ehrnst May 2019 #4
Remind us which Party controlled the Senate in 1974 and which one does today. brooklynite May 2019 #18
liberals and democrats are getting pounded by 1500 radio stations all day and media and certainot May 2019 #20
The crazy thing is that isn't even bold manor321 May 2019 #3
Exactly G_j May 2019 #25
Go bold!! Impeach Dolt45 NOW!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #5
Have you written to Bernie to get him on board, because he's not. ehrnst May 2019 #9
In fact, yes, I have!! See, unlike many here, I'm not afraid to point out where I disagree InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #13
K & R Nevermypresident May 2019 #6
K&R Kurt V. May 2019 #7
Its not bold, its clearly the obvious thing to do. honest.abe May 2019 #8
And, 45% of the American people want to crown him king.... KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #10
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍 spanone May 2019 #11
K&R Ponietz May 2019 #12
100 % Agree ETStevens May 2019 #14
It needs to be done. cwydro May 2019 #15
So a majority are not! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #16
Higher than Nixon G_j May 2019 #19
Many very intelligent people see this, but the establishment isn't quite there. Let's go guys. pdsimdars May 2019 #17
Another Monday Morning QB DeminPennswoods May 2019 #21
Lichtman G_j May 2019 #22
I know about Lichtman DeminPennswoods May 2019 #23
Some are more qualified than others. nt G_j May 2019 #24
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
2. Today's Democrats are more risk averse...
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:51 AM
May 2019

...and more intimidated by the corporate media getting in their heads.

It's always about that dry powder.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
20. liberals and democrats are getting pounded by 1500 radio stations all day and media and
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:22 AM
May 2019

political leadership have no clue because democrats and liberals ignore it.

because the talk radio monopoly buzz machine is invisible, media and pundits can keep repeating the corporate idiocy about 'what the people want', which is basically just coming out of the asses of limbaugh and a few hundred ignorant racist putin-loving parrots

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. The crazy thing is that isn't even bold
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:57 AM
May 2019

We have hundreds of former prosecutors signing a statement saying the president would be indicted if he were anyone else. There is nothing bold about starting an impeachment inquiry.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. Have you written to Bernie to get him on board, because he's not.
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:43 AM
May 2019
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/04/23/bernie-sanders-impeachment-donald-trump-2020-presidential-campaign-mueller-report/3547484002/

Bernie Sanders warned Democrats against focusing too much on the Mueller report and impeaching President Donald Trump, a move he said "works to Trump's advantage."

Sanders, who appeared on a CNN town hall Monday night, called Trump, "the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country," adding Congress must take a hard look "whether or not he obstructed justice, a very serious crime."

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
13. In fact, yes, I have!! See, unlike many here, I'm not afraid to point out where I disagree
Mon May 13, 2019, 09:08 AM
May 2019

with my favorite candidate, Bernie, and where I often agree with my less favored candidates. Compare and contrast that with other candidates' supporters who ONLY criticize Bernie, CONSTANTLY... yet NEVER take issue with ANY position their favorite candidate has promoted.

Now with that said, there are those who claim that Bernie outright opposes impeachment, which, of course, is NOT true. Do I wish Bernie was MORE FORCEFUL in promoting impeachment of the Traitor-in-Chief and was fully on board to start impeachment proceedings now? Absolutely!

That's why on this issue, I much prefer Elizabeth's stance on impeaching Dolt45.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

honest.abe

(8,659 posts)
8. Its not bold, its clearly the obvious thing to do.
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:41 AM
May 2019

What more does the Idiot need to do to qualify for impeachment?!?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
10. And, 45% of the American people want to crown him king....
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:49 AM
May 2019

...... .... (because I think that recent approval poll is bullshit).

Professor Lichtman should further consider the fact that Repugs have billions of dollars and rubles behind defending this criminal in public and in courts, and that they practically own or yield control over most of our media.

Professor Lichtman is also wrong about the onus only being on our Democrats. The constitutional truth is the onus is on all of Congress, and that includes Republicans.

Democrats are not being timid, but instead are being precise and thorough and following our laws with due process.

....

Ponietz

(2,957 posts)
12. K&R
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:59 AM
May 2019

Time to go ahead and be divisive with Schump’s base of racists, misogynists, kleptocrats, fascists, liars, domestic terrorists, and fools.

 

ETStevens

(77 posts)
14. 100 % Agree
Mon May 13, 2019, 09:11 AM
May 2019

If not now, when?

If you can't show the American people that high crimes and misdemeanors occurred with Trump,t then we are doomed!

Get every Republican Senator on the defensive defending their vote in 2020!

G_j

(40,366 posts)
19. Higher than Nixon
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:10 AM
May 2019

“That's before the House votes any articles. That's before trial. That's higher than the percentage that wanted to see Richard Nixon impeached when they began the impeachment process against him.“

G_j

(40,366 posts)
22. Lichtman
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:27 AM
May 2019

Allan Lichtman is a professor of political science at American University who, with a colleague, developed a prediction model that successfully predicted every presidential election since 1984, including that of Donald Trump in 2016. But professor Lichtman also predicted that President Trump will be impeached.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
23. I know about Lichtman
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:31 AM
May 2019

I am just tired of unelected pundits, professors and assorted what-have-you s carping about what Dems are or aren't doing right.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»This is a time for boldne...