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babylonsister

(171,049 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:23 PM May 2019

Congressman Calls For Steve Mnuchin To Be Jailed If He Doesn't Hand Over Trump's Tax Returns

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Posted on Mon, May 13th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Congressman Calls For Steve Mnuchin To Be Jailed If He Doesn’t Hand Over Trump’s Tax Returns


Pascrell said on MSNBC’s The Beat with Ari Melber, “I believe that the Justice Department should first fine the two persons that we’re talking about, Mr. Mnuchin and Mr. Rettig. And I would increase the penalties. And by the way, if they say no all the way, then I’d put them in jail all the way. That’s the law of the land. I don’t want to act as judge and jury here, which the trump administration has done many times on. But I’ll tell you what the law is. The law is on our side. And I can’t wait.”

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Calls are growing for Trump officials to be jailed

Over the weekend, Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) called for the jailing of Trump administration officials who are stonewalling investigations, ““We should consider the power of inherent contempt, an old doctrine that allows the Congress itself to issue a summons, arrest warrant to an official and demand they appear at a congressional hearing, be subject to fines, to jail time. I think we ought to explore contracting with area correctional institutions, provide additional support to the sergeant in arms, so the White House knows we’re serious.”

House Democrats are running out of patience. The calls are getting louder from the Democratic caucus for stronger action to be taken. Fines are a good first step because we all know that Trump won’t actually pay the fines of those who are covering for him. Democrats are building a strong case against this administration for widespread obstruction.

In order to get this administration to comply, Democrats will either need to win court cases or take action like the Congress members are suggesting.

It might be necessary for Democrats to lock them up.
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Congressman Calls For Steve Mnuchin To Be Jailed If He Doesn't Hand Over Trump's Tax Returns (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
If it were the other way around, republicans would NOT hesitate to jail democrats. RKP5637 May 2019 #1
Impeach him for practice. watoos May 2019 #2
Great idea Vdizzle May 2019 #12
I think he should be jailed for this photo alone htuttle May 2019 #3
no no no we cant start this.. if the gop gets control the first person they will jail is Hillary.. samnsara May 2019 #4
The GOP will never have control again RainCaster May 2019 #6
Ugh I hope you're right stopwastingmymoney May 2019 #17
Wifey's only in it for the money... Progressive Jones May 2019 #10
Jailed with no bail. democratisphere May 2019 #5
There is no bail for contempt charges. You sit until the presiding authority frees you. nt Progressive Jones May 2019 #11
See ya in the hoosegow. eom sprinkleeninow May 2019 #7
Lloyd DOGGETT is a *gem* of a Democratic specimen! UTUSN May 2019 #8
I would prefer him and his wife were burned at the stake. LiberalFighter May 2019 #9
I'd kinda like to see that, actually Blue Owl May 2019 #13
I LOVE the idea of tossing them in for-profit jails (or baby-cages, or Gitmo). lagomorph777 May 2019 #14
OK, and no. But there is a political theatre opportunity here! Grins May 2019 #15
I like it stopwastingmymoney May 2019 #20
YES!!! Lock 'em Up! calimary May 2019 #16
AMEN BROTHER DOGGETT bubbazero May 2019 #18
A point I thought of is that many people and also commentators like to scoff at that idea pdsimdars May 2019 #19
I think we should stand with Lloyd Doggett. calimary May 2019 #21

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
1. If it were the other way around, republicans would NOT hesitate to jail democrats.
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:29 PM
May 2019

Democrats IMO need to play really hard ball. Hoping the system works will not hack it, because republicans don't give a F about the country now, in the future or the people. They are in the political game for money and power. Lofty ideas about any in the GOP serving the country in politics for the preservation of a democracy and the future of the country/people are long gone. The GOP is now a bunch of thugs, just like the ass in the WH they idolize.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
12. Great idea
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:58 PM
May 2019

Who knows who the next jack a$$ they put up for a phony election will be... get some good old wholesome impeachments under our belts and then we will see what they say later. They don’t think we have the guts to impeach? Hold my beer... watch this.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
4. no no no we cant start this.. if the gop gets control the first person they will jail is Hillary..
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:43 PM
May 2019

...they will find some reason...


i want them to fine the shit out of him.. that will hurt him and wifey both...

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
17. Ugh I hope you're right
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:38 AM
May 2019

Problem is, we might have thought that in 2008 and look what happened.

I realize this is a magnitude worse but, people are dumb.

Grins

(7,205 posts)
15. OK, and no. But there is a political theatre opportunity here!
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:14 AM
May 2019

There really is no jail in which to put them, and by "them" I mean "Republicans". My choice would be Washington's "Central Detention Facility" - a REAL jail, that is local and close by, used for the "locals" awaiting adjudication of their cases or are sentenced for misdemeanors. (Perfect.)

But the problem with using it is (sez' WaPo): “We can fit a maximum of two people.” - A sergeant with the Capitol Police.

Two!

So here is the theater: A member of the House should identify this sorrowful deficiency and propose as a solution - a bill that would fund and secure additional space at the DC jail! Just a few million dollars that the city could use, but enough to grab attention from those on the Reich. "Yo!! Mr. Barr, Mr. Mnuchin, Mr. Rettig, Mr. McGahn - plenty of room and we left the light on for 'ya!"

It won't go far, but can you imagine the heads exploding all over the National Republican Club? And the White House!!!!! It would be all over "Meet-the-Press", "This Week", "Face the Nation" - "Fox Sunday!" - and let's not leave out Sean Hannity's (aka, “Client #3”) and bloated, saggy-titted doom gorgon, Rush Limbaugh!

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
20. I like it
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:44 AM
May 2019

Even better if the proposition was something they could do with their internal budget, no need to jump the hurdles of passing a law, yes?

That would really get them excited

bubbazero

(296 posts)
18. AMEN BROTHER DOGGETT
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:39 AM
May 2019

Simple concept---house finds someone in inherent contempt---has power thru sergeant of arms of House---Sergeant of Arms of both houses along with Architect of the Capitol control the Capitol Police. Capitol police have an offsite holding facility--when done in past--perp has been held in a hotel. No different then state police arresting a county sheriff. DO IT NOW ---Start with BARR--This will force the admin to go to court to get an injunction would be rapidly expedited to the supreme court. Power in Law---in the Constitution

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
19. A point I thought of is that many people and also commentators like to scoff at that idea
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:41 AM
May 2019

Chris Matthews is one of the biggest. He always asks the Democrats who come on about who is going to go arrest him. Now, think about that for a minute. The level of his disbelief marks the level the elites mark their elitism. That is, in 1930 they actually arrested someone. Which means, back then, those people were considered normal people. That IS the law and they were not above it. They actually did it.
But now, a large group of people consider that time to have been primitive or something because they don't consider it in the realm of reality for "those" people to be arrested.
That's what it says to me. The level of their disbelief that this can happen, is the measure of their condescension to the elites who, apparently (and obviously), operate under a different legal system.

calimary

(81,189 posts)
21. I think we should stand with Lloyd Doggett.
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:11 PM
May 2019

Last edited Tue May 14, 2019, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)

This White House, with this so-called “pResident” in charge, isn’t expecting that. Gene Robinson had an outstanding column noting something of which we should stay very well aware. If you look at trump’s private sector track record of “doing business,” you get a pretty clear picture of his modus operandi.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-no-idea-what-hes-doing/2019/05/13/a3e6a626-75c0-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html?utm_term=.0894d9a6baf6&wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

Robinson’s op/ed about trump vs China on the tariff mess pointed to the shtick trump typically pulled, bullying the little-guy contractor or subcontractor who didn’t have the means or the time to respond or defy, much less mount a counterattack. You look at how trump has always “done business.” But China is NOT some little company run by some sole proprietor from Brooklyn. And the same template trump has always used DOES NOT work against a formidable and powerful opponent like China.

trump may assume his old tried-‘n’-true strong-armed local bait ‘n’ switch will apply across the board. It doesn’t. And it won’t, here, either.

TO JAIL with these schmucks! AND, ultimately, with HIM, too!!!


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