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Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:50 PM May 2019

billionaires arrested with pot plants

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7025071/Coca-Cola-heir-Alki-David-arrested-landing-St-Kitts-1-3m-worth-cannabis.html



Ergen was then arrested for drug possession days later and remains locked up, according to David who says the ketamine he was found with is his medication for bi polar


Greek Coca Cola heir Alki David is arrested with fellow billionaire business partner after landing in St Kitts on a private jet with actor pal Jonathan Rhys Meyers and '$1.3 million worth of cannabis' on board

David, 50, and Chase Ergen, heir to a satellite fortune, are said to have transported an estimated 5,000 cannabis plants as part of their new business

They had traveled with Irish actor Jonathan Rhys Meyers and his family
But they were pulled aside by customs officials after landing and searched

David's family business owns the Coca-Cola Hellenic bottling plants
St. Christopher and Nevis Police Force confirmed David had been charged

David was released after paying bail of $30,000 and is due in court Tuesday

Ergen was then arrested for drug possession days later after being found with 'medicinal ketamine for bi polar', David claims
Cannabis Bill, 2019, is set to be passed in St Kitts and Nevis that will allow the use of cannabis for medicinal, religious and recreational purposes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7025071/Coca-Cola-heir-Alki-David-arrested-landing-St-Kitts-1-3m-worth-cannabis.html
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billionaires arrested with pot plants (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2019 OP
5,000 pot plants aboard a private jet? crazytown May 2019 #1
another source Demovictory9 May 2019 #2
What was the business they needed the plants for? BigmanPigman May 2019 #3
It sounds like they were going to start a grow house. GemDigger May 2019 #4
Ketamine is an effective treatment for BiPolar Depression crazytown May 2019 #5
Utah as well. n/t Control-Z May 2019 #6
I think that it's being used more and more Dorian Gray May 2019 #7
'Ketamine poisoning is rarely lethal' crazytown May 2019 #9
It's dangerous Dorian Gray May 2019 #10
I think we are splitting hairs. crazytown May 2019 #11
I agree Dorian Gray May 2019 #12
Ganja would have been legal all over this region were malaise May 2019 #8

Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
2. another source
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:19 AM
May 2019
https://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.com/local-news/businessman-arrested-for-drugs-promises-legal-fightback/

By Kenichi Serino

A businessman who came to St Kitts to make deals growing cannabis and was later arrested on drug charges, has denied the accusations and has promised a legal fightback against Prime Minister Dr. Timothy Harris.

Alkivaides “Alki” David was detained at Robert L Bradshaw attempting to import cannabis seeds, seedlings and products that he said were legal. He was released but later arrested on May 9 on three charges including drug importation, possession and intent to supply.

In a press conference on Monday, David blamed Harris for accusations in the media that he was attempting to purchase land on St. Kitts as well as arresting his friend and business partner Chase Ergen. David was accompanied at the press conference by Leader of the Opposition Dr. Denzil Douglas.

David called Harris “a little dictator” and said he had flown in outside attorneys from London to take up his case.

“This little dictator who thinks he can do this. It’s illegal and its unconscionable. Mr Harris here has a whole new thing coming at him,” David said.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. What was the business they needed the plants for?
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:20 AM
May 2019

Were they trying to create a medicine for bipolar disorder out of it? That doesn't make sense on a zillion different levels.

Dorian Gray

(13,491 posts)
7. I think that it's being used more and more
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:59 AM
May 2019

My problem with Ketamine as treatment is that often people with Bi-Polar have a history of drug or alcohol abuse, and adding ketamine to the mix can be problematic. A friend of mine was being treated with this. Treatments were not covered under her insurance, and she paid out of pocket. It was quite expensive. So then she had the "idea" to buy street ketamine and treat that way. Doing this outside of the supervision of a properly trained therapist is extraordinarily dangerous.

That is ONE individual, so I know it's not a sample.

(The above has little to do with this story. But if this traveler was carrying ketamine ON him, not so sure how that's official treatment.)

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. 'Ketamine poisoning is rarely lethal'
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:58 AM
May 2019

I wouldn’t describe Katamine abuse as ‘extraordinary dangerous’. Ketamine is an anaesthetic. It’s principal use is in pain management. Compared to opioids, Ketsmi e does not depress respiration, or induce physical dependence’s. It’s disadvantages is that in low diesel it’s a psychedelic, and a higher does, incapacitates the subject (anaesthesia).

The principal reason the Ketamine administration is so tightly controlled is not the dangers of abuse, but neurosis about diversion onto the street - that is, if Ketamine were dispensed as tablets, would people receiving the prescription be tempted to sell them.

I

Dorian Gray

(13,491 posts)
10. It's dangerous
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:05 PM
May 2019

for a person who has previously abused prescription medications to go for Ketamine treatment for the reason I listed. She started buying it on the street to self medicate rather than pay for the expensive treatments, and it continued the cycle of self-medicating with abusing medications. And street Ketamine, like any other drug, you don't know what it's mixed with. Also dangerous.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. I think we are splitting hairs.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019

The last thing I am suggesting is somebody suffering from bipolar should be going out on the street to score anything.

But as far as ketamine itself is concerned, I set out the pharmacology. Fentanyl and Methamphetamine are extraordinary dangerous.

I would add, BiPolar is extraordinary dangerous. It kills one in five of people with it. It’s genetic. Your friend didn’t choose it. It’s horrible.

Dorian Gray

(13,491 posts)
12. I agree
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:27 AM
May 2019

And I know she didn't choose it. Add to the Borderline diagnosis a personality disorder, and it feels impossible to treat. It's debilitating and tough and she's had trouble finding solutions to it. Ketamine didn't work for a number of reasons. (And I wasn't splitting hairs. I was defending my statement that it could be extraordinarily dangerous for someone to start it when they are prone to drug abuse. Which I still believe.) She also experimented with frog venom shamanic treatments, once the ketamine "stopped working." There is way less study about this, and the whole experience made me very nervous.

Having said that, her doctors are considering Electric Shock Therapy as a solution now. I've got mixed emotions about that, but she is still choosing treatment options herself. (Though she has a conservator in charge of her finances, and her family has considered trying to force a psychiatric hold on her.)

Watching someone you love go down this path is difficult, and finding the right treatment has been a decades long hunt. I'm hoping she finally catches the unicorn. Watching someone you love suffer the disease and treatment option after treatment option failing is tough. Even tougher for her to live it.

malaise

(268,929 posts)
8. Ganja would have been legal all over this region were
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:07 AM
May 2019

it not for the British and US - pure irony here.
Thankfully Jamaica is waking up after watching those who demand that we punish people for smoking a plant enrich themselves with said herb.

Lots of rich US folks have homes in St Kitts and Nevis - including former SC judge Kennedy.

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