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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho else heard Rachel's remark "why isn't Trump being impeached right now?".
She seemed exasperated.
elleng
(130,865 posts)More like LISTEN TO THIS, FOLKS, than 'exasperated,' imo.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)He said theres nothing better than rump wants than to play the princess victim.
I actually dont know. Im with Warren in shit yeah hes gotta be impeached like hes the fucking worst punk ever elected...TREASON.
But Im not sure about the politics. Nothing has been normal for a long time.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)experience. He has not thought through what will be exposed publicly. He thinks that it will just be a word that is bandied about, not a public process that will air his dirty laundry.
Hes used to lying and not being challenged. Well, he will be greatly challenged during impeachment, with plenty of witnesses coming forth with damning evidence.
misanthrope
(7,411 posts)and he could be correct. Not only is our society built even more around immediate gratification but the speed at which political news comes roaring down the pike these days, with what would have been major stories happening weekly or quicker, then it has enhanced those tendencies.
A lot of the folks on this board would have never made it through the Watergate process.
tinrobot
(10,895 posts)Which was basically nothing.
His will be about as far away from that as it gets.
Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... well post impeachment.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Id call that faring pretty well, wouldnt you?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)crazytown
(7,277 posts)Sorry.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Let's not get hysterical.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)I never will
Chin music
(23,002 posts)And isn't a reason, to not do it now. Just for the ole' record.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)The fact that Gore won after the GOP impeached Clinton, would be an argument NOT to impeach Trump.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)crazytown
(7,277 posts)ASAP
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Clinton ended up MORE popular after the House impeached him and the Senate failed to convict.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... less isn't winning control of anything and wasn't a positive outcome.
The "spin" of the post 98 impeachment is dems gained a net 2 seats as if gaining seats is the goal, gaining control of congress is the goal and the democrats didn't do that.
The other spin is Clinton became more popular right afterward but his popularity fell sharply post impeachment and so did his honesty numbers to the point Gore ran away from him.
Positive election outcomes didn't happen for the party of Johnson or Nixon post impeachment procedures.
The party of the impeached does not fare well post impeachment and never has
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... or cogent POLITICAL reason not to impeach.
Most of the what's been proffered has been BS spin.
If Pelosi is going through a process then we're there but people should stop proffering political reasons not to impeach... there factually aren't any.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... they cared that Newt was trying to take out his progression line and had to leave anyway.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/ethics.htm
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)political operative. None of the Dem/liberal talking heads understand Republican political thinking the way Wilson does.
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)Richard D
(8,752 posts). . .. I've been wondering the same thing for 2+ years.
Lock him up.
(6,925 posts)the un-redacted parts of all that pertain to his case?
Two-weeks delay by Federal Court Order. If Barr refuses to comply (as expected), then open impeachment hearings to get the full un-redacted report? (Not to mention EVERYTHING else.) Show every crime and the evidence, and insist that nobody is above the law, day after day after day (except on Faux Noise).
calimary
(81,220 posts)sandensea
(21,624 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)Tomorrow isnt promised to anyone. Mitch could drop at any time. He's no spring chicken. Heart attacks happen. NOT acting bc we 'think' we know the results, on this one is UNAmerican.
If we wait long enough, the only "true patriots" will be the folks on those ships trumps sending into peril. Then for sure we will give ourselves the reason to fold on it.
I love Nancy Pelosi, but, we are all important. (As evidenced by...we all get the same amount of votes...ONE.) Even she says impeachment isn't off the table. Let's go, before trump locks this shit in with a war.
sandensea
(21,624 posts)If he dropped dead - with a Russian male prostitute on top of him.
If he can pry Lindsey Graham away from the guy, anyway.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)One things for sure, trump got through ANOTHER week, didn't he?
Meanwhile, on DU....
sandensea
(21,624 posts)Which brings me to your earlier post:
You're absolutely right. Cheeto and his gangsters are very much planning, or at least mulling, some Gulf of Tonkin-style event as a pretext for war.
Trump has openly said so himself, that he'd like something "like 9/11" to make him a "war president."
Worked for Dubya, after all.
Ligyron
(7,627 posts)Propose this situation to a high school civics class and they'd tell you impeachment is mandatory.
But wait, do they have civics classes in high school anymore?
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)Government is required in senior year of high school. That's it. And because of the pressure from administrators to raise standardized test scores, teachers rarely mention anything currently in the news. This state is handing graduation diplomas to kids who can bluff their way through a basic algebra problem but couldn't have an intelligent discussion of the impeachment issue as pertains to the current situation if their lives depended on it.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Not only are kids given tests over and over sometimes, they are twice as coddled to make the numbers look good. 'We're going to give you some extra 'prayer points', to get you over the hump.' etc.
The fabric of the nation is tearing bc there's no leader at the top. Just some guy who thinks he deserves to be pampered on the American dime.
Tariffs, and destroying stuff other people have done, isn't governing. It's just a sham, to fill in for the sham election.
Meanwhile, trump is looking forward to his private meeting w putin at the G20.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Response to triron (Original post)
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JI7
(89,247 posts)do it and we need their votes to remove him.
so we have to think about the elections.
Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But like some other folks, she doesn't seem to care whether the Democrats do it right as long as they do it NOW.
mnmoderatedem
(3,724 posts)GOP senators during Watergate:
"Mr president, you are guilty of obstructing justice, and it's time for you to step down."
GOP senators now:
"Mr president, you are guilty of obstructing justice, but don't worry, we will protect you at all cost."
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)...NINE MONTHS after the "Saturday Night Massacre" and only when "smoking gun" evidence came out. A month before the tape was released the Republicans in the House and Senate were just as supportive of Nixon as they had been in November.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Nobody knows. It's time for impeachment. If not now, when?
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)hide and have circled the wagons. K&R.