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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:02 AM May 2019

Can we really make it to November 2020 without at least starting impeachment investigations?

My post is prompted by this:

Trump impeachment proceedings would force the courts to ‘fast-track everything’ and end the White House obstruction: CNN analyst

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/trump-impeachment-proceedings-would-force-the-courts-to-fast-track-everything-and-end-the-white-house-obstruction-cnn-analyst/


I see three options:

1), We keep trying to swim upstream in the face of Trump / Barr / Mnuchin obstruction

2). We begin impeachment INVESTIGATIONS which may not necessarily lead to an impeachment vote in the House

3). We depend on voters, some of whom voted for Trump in 2016, to fix everything in 2020

Am I missing a fourth option?
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Can we really make it to November 2020 without at least starting impeachment investigations? (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2019 OP
I see a combination of one and two Maeve May 2019 #1
If you're sure you can pull off#2 wryter2000 May 2019 #2
3rd option logically isn't available, 2020 wont be more free and fair than 2016 or 2018 senate uponit7771 May 2019 #3
I think you are missing the likelihood that Trump will stonewall impeachment anyway, marylandblue May 2019 #4
Yes.I posted because I don't fully agree with the premise of that article. Miles Archer May 2019 #5

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
1. I see a combination of one and two
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

Continue to push against the obstruction with increasing legal pressure until impeachment becomes the only option. Note that two different judges have now ordered parts of the Mueller report be unredacted and released to them (in one case, to the public)--the judiciary has not been fully engaged and it will have to be before long. And we're likely to see some surprises coming out of the state of NY.
I think it may be a very interesting summer.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
2. If you're sure you can pull off#2
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019

I might be with you. But it seems to me that once you start impeachment, you've limited how long it goes on. What we're doing now has no time limit. If we finish one investigation, there are several more. We still don't have the espionage investigation information. We haven't touched emoluments.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. I think you are missing the likelihood that Trump will stonewall impeachment anyway,
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:21 PM
May 2019

and the courts may not act any faster, or be willing and able to enforce their own orders. Sure, with a normal administration, these things wouldn't be a question, but we are not dealing with a normal administration.

I am not saying anything will or won't be a problem, but rather we should stop making assumptions that action "x" will cause improvement "y," just because there is a law that says so or because it happened that way with Nixon.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
5. Yes.I posted because I don't fully agree with the premise of that article.
Sat May 18, 2019, 03:12 PM
May 2019

Nixon, probably. Trump, less likely.

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