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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Sun May 19, 2019, 10:28 PM May 2019

Sailors on Navy sub created sexually explicit lists of female crewmates: report

Sailors aboard the USS Florida, the second U.S. Navy submarine to integrate female servicemembers, circulated sexually explicit lists of female crew members, according to records obtained by Military.com through the Freedom of Information Act.

Two sailors aboard the sub brought the lists to a superior officer months after integration of female members began in February 2018. The lists included rankings of the 32 women on the sub’s 173-person crew by attractiveness and sexual acts the compilers wanted to perform on them, according to the news outlet.

In June, a senior adviser to Capt. Gregory Kercher, commander of the submarine’s Gold crew, alerted him about the list. Kercher reportedly ordered a search of the sub’s computer network to determine who had been accessing the list but did not open a full investigation or notify his command.

"Although he took some action in response to the list, there is no question that those minimal actions fell far short of expected standards and norms for an event of this magnitude," Rear Adm. Jeff Jablon, then-commander of Submarine Group 10, wrote to a superior. Kercher was removed from his position last August over “loss of confidence in his ability to command.”

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/navy/444494-sailors-on-navy-sub-created-sexually-explicit-list-of-female-crewmates

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Sailors on Navy sub created sexually explicit lists of female crewmates: report (Original Post) JonLP24 May 2019 OP
Clarification: It's nothing specific to "sailors/Navy sub" - only specific to ignorant, uneducated UTUSN May 2019 #1
The Navy does seem to have some issues. Tipperary May 2019 #2
I'll say again, it's not specific to the Navy. My Lai? (If we want to go back more in time) UTUSN May 2019 #3
we all have our moral delinquents stopdiggin May 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar May 2019 #5

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
1. Clarification: It's nothing specific to "sailors/Navy sub" - only specific to ignorant, uneducated
Sun May 19, 2019, 10:31 PM
May 2019

Last edited Sun May 19, 2019, 11:15 PM - Edit history (1)

a-holes (99% sure they're wingnuts).

*******ON EDIT: Of whatever branch.





 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
2. The Navy does seem to have some issues.
Sun May 19, 2019, 10:55 PM
May 2019

I still remember the infamous Tailhook incident, and there’ve been incidents since.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
3. I'll say again, it's not specific to the Navy. My Lai? (If we want to go back more in time)
Sun May 19, 2019, 11:01 PM
May 2019

ON EDIT: I'm not mixing apples/oranges (My Lai vs Tailhook). I'm talking about moral fails in general as not being specific to one group of whomever. I'm sure you're not saying that anybody/everybody in the Navy is sexually depraved.






stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
4. we all have our moral delinquents
Mon May 20, 2019, 02:00 AM
May 2019

Every system will have it's sleezeball characters. The real metric here is in which systems are the slimeballs tolerated? The military has had a long history of "boys will by boys" acceptance .. and a certain degree of averted eyes and general tolerance was even considered good practical leadership. Having said that, if/when the military decides they want to change their culture (i.e. when they got serious about racial integration) they can do so with remarkable dispatch. I am somewhat hopeful that something similar is in the works for gender integration. It sounds like this incident was (eventually) taken seriously by leadership.

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