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Vidal

(642 posts)
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:20 PM May 2019

Amash Calls Kevin McCarthy a Liar

"Amash Fires Back at House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy: ‘Everyone Knows He’s Lying… Typical Kevin’

"Congressman Justin Amash, the lone Republican in Congress arguing that President Donald Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct, fired back at the top Republican in the House for criticizing his remarks."

Read More: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/amash-fires-back-at-house-gop-leader-kevin-mccarthy-everyone-knows-hes-lying-typical-kevin/

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Chin music

(23,002 posts)
4. If it helps the USA get out of this,...I'm open to suggestions, and help from anybody.
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:43 PM
May 2019

This guy is speaking the truth. Regardless of his politics, I'm grateful.
Seems to me it behooves us to encourage more of this. Including changing parties, or whatever it takes. Strsnger things have happened, see trump.
I hope the gop are outlawed if theyre riding dirty as a party, and we know they are. Today was eventually, very very good for us. I'm glad Adam Schiff has been on this. jmho.

Siwsan

(26,255 posts)
5. I really think he is looking at runnung for Gary Peter's Senate seat
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:51 PM
May 2019

And he is trying to btoaden his appeal.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
7. Kevin wants to keep it all "in the family, ha ha".
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:43 PM
May 2019

Isn't lying about Putin and Russia part of the GOP plan? This was what Kevin and Paul Ryan said two years ago and it has worked for them for the most part (Flake and Corker don't count in my book).

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
8. if amash saw the un-redacted mueller report he'd see russians created the tea party with talk radio
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:06 PM
May 2019

one or more of the spinoff investigations is about russians using limbaugh and hannity for years - he and all the tea party con reps have been used by the kremlin for years that's why he flipped

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. talk radio is a classic propaganda medium the kgb/kremlin would be very familiar with
Tue May 21, 2019, 01:47 AM
May 2019

While everyone gets excited about social media and internet trolls the kremlin is killing us with talk radio, going back at least to 2008 when Putin would have loved to put someone like Palin in the White House.

From “Operation Trump”, by Gabriel Sherman April 3, 2016,:

Throughout 2014, the three (Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, and Sam Nunberg) fed Trump strategy memos and political intelligence.


“I listened to thousands of hours of talk radio, and he was getting reports from me,” Nunberg recalled.
What those reports said was that the GOP base was frothing over a handful of issues including immigration, Obamacare, and Common Core. While Jeb Bush talked about crossing the border as an “act of love,” Trump was thinking about how high to build his wall. “We either have borders or we don’t,” Trump told the faithful who flocked to the annual CPAC conference in 2014.


Why would cheapskate Trump pay for anyone to listen “to 1000’s of hours of talk radio unless someone told him it was important?” If he didn’t pay for it directly from Trump funds, how did he pay for it?

It’s amazing no one has asked Nunberg about this considering how many times he’s been on MSNBC.

Why wouldn’t Trump pay friend Limbaugh for his help in the primaries versus GOP establishment?
It wouldn’t be Trump’s style not to enlist his friend and neighbor Limbaugh in helping him beat Rubio and Bush in the primaries. Limbaugh tried to look objective but was always talking about Trump, making excuses for him, attacking his critics, and dissing Bush and Rubio on immigration.

If Stone has used talk radio since the 2000 election and he and Trump were using Russian help why wouldn’t it be coordinated with Limbaugh and Hannity? Corsi and Credico are in the Mueller report. They and Stone are listed in the glossary with parts of their descriptions redacted. They're not social medi aexperts - they're long time talk radio operatives - Stone going back to 2000 using radio to stop the Florida recounts.

Hannity is referenced 5 times, mostly in association with Fox and talk radio interviews and he probably should be there in the glossary between Rhona Graff and Johnathan Hawker.

There is a name there, in the small space where a name starting with ‘Ha’ would be. The name and brief two line description is redacted as Harm To Ongoing Matter. Some of the others listed in the glossary have fewer references.

Limbaugh provides sanitized transcripts of his show to help keep other talk radio hosts and GOP politicians and media on the same page so it’s unlikely Nunberg listened to a lot of Limbaugh unless they were really stupid. So who were they studying and in what states?

Most of the national talkers follow the Limbaugh lead in interpreting news and events. The most logical reason for listening to that much talk radio might be to get a flavor of issues talked about in different states.

In a Washington Post piece a Russian talked about working for a trolling operation in late 2014.

You got a list of topics to write about.


There is no way the Kremlin would go through all this trouble without doing their homework. They wouldn’t rely on Russian trolls to make stuff up.

Why wouldn’t the Kremlin piggyback years of talk radio repetition? Anyone familiar with Republican talk radio repetition would recognize significant overlap with Russian troll memes.

Talk radio has been around longer than social media and is a classic propaganda medium with various advantages over TV and other media. Why wouldn’t they be calling shows like the GOP think tanks do? Why not figure out which hosts read emails from ‘listeners’?

All they had to do was figure out how to feed Limbaugh, whether he knew or not, and they could control a lot of messaging on 1500 radio stations. Are any of his major sources on that list?

Does Putin have kompromat on Limbaugh?

Is there any payola with Russian laundered money going on? Didn’t Hannity’s relationship with Cohen involve real estate?

Breitbart got started in about 2007, about the time Limbaugh started breaking with the ‘establishment’ GOP. Did the Kremlin take over the Breitbart blog as it started competing with MIC- friendly Drudge as a conduit to talk radio? Hello, Steve Bannon?

2008 Palin

Manafort was McCain campaign cochair. McCain was thinking about Pawlenty and even Lieberman. Limbaugh wouldn’t support McCain, a looming disaster for the GOP convention. Minutes before the start of the Limbaugh show on the Friday before the GOP convention McCain publicly chose Palin and Limbaugh used the announcement to finally support McCain. Did he have prior knowledge of it? At that time Alaska Gov Palin was being courted by Russians re oil and gas.

Tea Party

The Koch brothers gave them bus passes but talk radio and Fox played a big part giving them talking points, publicizing them, and coordinating them. Did the Kremlin use talk radio to help coordinate Tea Party and Republican obstruction and attacks during the Obama administration?

2009 Climategate from Russian-hacked emails

In 2009 Limbaugh started the “Climategate” hoax based on Russian-hacked emails, a development timed to sabotage Obama at the Copenhagen climate talks. Every year we delay on global warming is worth billions to Putin, not just the Kochs. Wikileaks was involved in that.

2011 Defaulting on the Debt

In 2011 Limbaugh spent 2 months trying to get Republicans to force the US to default, something Putin would enjoy more that any US billionaire.

2012 Benghazi

Many of the Trump/Russian-related material used in trolling re Hillary Clinton came out of the 2012 Benghazi ‘embassy’ attack. Talk radio did the heavy lifting repetition re emails, etc. that ties into all this crap we’re dealing with now.

One of the lies talk radio spread required head of PR for the US marines to make a public rebuttal. It was all over national and local talk radio — that Obama and Clinton had prohibited US marines guarding US embassies from carrying live ammo. They were basically encouraging attacks on US embassies. Did that come from the Drudge report, Breitbart, or the Russians?

The entire Hillary email issue related to her using a private server — she knew republicans would try to get her private emails and leak selected items to 1500 radio stations.

Kremlin callers?

Calls to national talkers can reach millions.

Since Republican radio has been shown to use paid callers, why not Kremlin callers instead of Heritage Foundation callers? Automated call screening software might be programmed to advance calls from GOP think tanks. That might be easy to hack but it wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that a Russian company makes good call screening software at a great price…..

Callers play an important part in keeping local talk radio hosts in line with Limbaugh, prompting topics, and suggesting lies, scandals, and violence.

Kremlin emailers?

When the shutdown started I heard the local blowhard read an email from a ‘listener’ who cheered the shutdown, saying government workers were lazy scammers.

How many other local blowhards in states all over the country read the same email, and did it come from the White House, a GOP think tank, or maybe even the Kremlin?

That is the problem of ignoring RW radio.
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