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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN Hosts Confront Director Of Anti-Obama Film About Falsehoods In Movie
ROLAND MARTIN (CNN contributor): Just curious -- how do you deal with folks who lie? So, for instance, I heard one of the women say, "Oh my God, taxes have gone up." You look at the stimulus bill, actually, 40 percent of that is actually tax cuts. So when you look at analysis of what has happened, taxes have actually -- they have not gone up. So when somebody lies in the film, what do you do?
STEPHEN BANNON (conservative filmmaker): These are called voters.
MARTIN: No, no -- right. But they also lie.
BANNON: Remember, voters can be low-information voters, they could be mid-information voters. We went and took a pool of voters, right, who voted for President Obama, who are active in the voter pool today, registered voters who are likely to vote. Some said they're not going to vote because they may not vote for President Obama. But we got their feelings. Some of them had information that's not absolutely perfect. I mean, some -- a lot of them didn't know a lot about Obamacare.
MARTIN: But if somebody lies, why include the lie?
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN (host): So it sounds like you're saying it doesn't matter to you if the information of the voter is accurate or if it's --
BANNON: No, it matters. But when they're talking about their own personal beliefs, some of that is in there. Absolutely.
O'BRIEN: So -- but taxes going up isn't a personal belief. It's a fact, right? So --
BANNON: Well, it's a -- it was a belief of hers.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/08/27/cnn-hosts-confront-director-of-anti-obama-film/189584
This same smarmy bastard (Stephen Bannon) on Hannity:
Debt is the "real crisis," "not a manufactured crisis like global warming or the health care crisis"
http://mediamatters.org/video/2010/02/23/stephen-bannon-on-hannity-debt-is-the-real-cris/160822
grasswire
(50,130 posts)He started with birtherism. I couldn't watch the whole thing, but he upfront stated that his intent was to confront the lies in today's politics.
CabCurious
(954 posts)While I can imagine $2 million in direct ticket sales, I seriously question the immediate sales for the weekend given the timing and given that the GOP have a billion dollars to spend.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)not everybody who says something wrong is lying.
It is the director who lies. Because he talks to 100 people, and then picks out the ones who say certain things, like "taxes have gone up" and then he catapaults that propaganda.
It is also not completely fair to call them "low" information voters. They are more like MISinformation voters.
Which is a distinction that matters. Because if somebody is low information, you are sorta blaming them for not getting enough information. But if somebody is misinformed, then the BLAME lies NOT with the voters, but with the PROPAGANDISTS who are pushing the false information. Many people are not so much TELLING lies as they are BELIEVING lies and then SPREADING them.
Then there are people doing movies or on TV or writing columns or books who are helping in the spreading.