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Vidal

(642 posts)
Tue May 21, 2019, 07:33 PM May 2019

IRS legal memo on Trump's taxes just got leaked to the Washington Post

This could be big:

President Donald Trump’s efforts to conceal his tax returns from Congress are undermined by a legal memo from his own administration, The Washington Post reported Tuesday after they obtaining the document.

“A confidential Internal Revenue Service legal memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless the president takes the rare step of asserting executive privilege,” the newspaper reported. “The memo contradicts the Trump administration’s justification for denying lawmakers’ request for President Trump’s tax returns, exposing fissures in the executive branch.”


Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/confidential-draft-irs-memo-says-tax-returns-must-be-given-to-congress-unless-president-invokes-executive-privilege/2019/05/21/8ed41834-7b1c-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html
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IRS legal memo on Trump's taxes just got leaked to the Washington Post (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
Leaked to WAPO...excellent......I just saw this on Erin Burnett. Tsk tsk tsk. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #1
This is what weneed Vidal May 2019 #2
How would executive privilege apply to his taxes? dflprincess May 2019 #3
it doesn't Grasswire2 May 2019 #7
It would work... SergeStorms May 2019 #19
Yeah, but the more they stall the bigger the fall. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #21
Here are more quotes Vidal May 2019 #4
Then that is what Trump will do -claim executive privilege. Hope courts don't buy that. triron May 2019 #5
That is a stretch Vidal May 2019 #6
Very interesting. Thanks Vidal! (nt) FreepFryer May 2019 #8
You are very welcom Vidal May 2019 #10
Executive privilege? dawg day May 2019 #9
Right Vidal May 2019 #11
Especially tax returns... SergeStorms May 2019 #20
Selected. So good, that. emmaverybo May 2019 #29
Boo hoo... poor Munchkin will be so sad. BigmanPigman May 2019 #12
For sure Vidal May 2019 #13
I see what you did there! Fritz Walter May 2019 #22
The law "does not allow the Secretary to exercise discretion in disclosing the information provided" Vidal May 2019 #14
Rachel Maddow opened her show with this tonight. n/t Mr.Bill May 2019 #15
What was her conclusion? Vidal May 2019 #17
I don't know. Mr.Bill May 2019 #25
So does that mean Mnuchin can be charged with violating the statute on releasing returns? Thomas Hurt May 2019 #16
Probably Vidal May 2019 #18
Yes there is more talk watoos May 2019 #24
Let the Leaks Begin! dlk May 2019 #23
This is a very big deal Gothmog May 2019 #26
Is this a trick? WTF does unless he asserts executive privilege mean??? Dream Girl May 2019 #27
Keep up the pressure gratuitous May 2019 #28
Commentary this morning Vidal May 2019 #30

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
3. How would executive privilege apply to his taxes?
Tue May 21, 2019, 07:48 PM
May 2019

I thought that was limited to interactions between Trump and members of the executive branch.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
19. It would work...
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:12 PM
May 2019

as another stall tactic, however brief. At this point Trump is looking for anything to slow down every part of the investigations, even if it's for only a few minutes. This will go nowhere, fast.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
4. Here are more quotes
Tue May 21, 2019, 07:52 PM
May 2019

The 10-page memo says turning over the documents “is mandatory, requiring the Secretary to disclose returns, and return information, requested by the tax-writing Chairs.”

“[T]he Secretary’s obligation to disclose return and return information would not be affected by the failure of a tax writing committee … to state a reason for the request,” it declares.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
6. That is a stretch
Tue May 21, 2019, 07:57 PM
May 2019

Given his history, he might. But it won't work in the long run.

The IRS memo will probably make sure he loses in court.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
9. Executive privilege?
Tue May 21, 2019, 08:12 PM
May 2019

Of course. He claims that about everything. But it makes no sense with private tax returns.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
22. I see what you did there!
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019

And don’t try to blame Autocorrect.
He is a munchkin.
And that does a disservice to the people who were cast as such in the original “Wizard of Oz” movie.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
14. The law "does not allow the Secretary to exercise discretion in disclosing the information provided"
Tue May 21, 2019, 08:30 PM
May 2019

Which means the IRS has directly rejected the reason Mnuchin cited for withholding the information.

Which means both Trump and Mnuchin are screwed.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
17. What was her conclusion?
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:10 PM
May 2019

If possible, please let us know what she said.

I'm wondering if Rachel believes this will compel Mnuchin to change what he's doing, or make it more likely Trump will lose in court.

Thanks!

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
25. I don't know.
Tue May 21, 2019, 11:43 PM
May 2019

I had to leave the house to go to a high school scholarship awards ceremony. I left right after I posted this.

I recorded it, will probably watch it tomorrow.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
18. Probably
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:11 PM
May 2019

But everything will have to be decided by the courts, unless Pelosi decides she can arrest people like Mnuchin and Barr for ignoring Congress (and the law).

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
24. Yes there is more talk
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:59 PM
May 2019

Of doing a test case of detaining someone and then fining them until they comply. I’m not so sure about that route working.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
27. Is this a trick? WTF does unless he asserts executive privilege mean???
Tue May 21, 2019, 11:50 PM
May 2019

Seems to me this will be used as a smoke screen. Of course he will assert EP, then it will be “legal” to withhold his taxes...am I missing something? Don’t see the cause for jubilation. I think this was a phony leak. Hope I’m wrong about this?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. Keep up the pressure
Tue May 21, 2019, 11:53 PM
May 2019

The administration's motto is "Never let them see you sweat." When the administration breaks, and it will, it will come suddenly. Leaks and betrayals that show up in the pages of the Washington Post are going to drive Needy Amin around the bend.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
30. Commentary this morning
Wed May 22, 2019, 08:50 AM
May 2019

What people are saying in the media this morning confirms our thoughts from yesterday.

The battle for Trump's taxes is currently tied up in court, so the IRS memo, which supports Richard Neal and House Democrats, will surely help the Democrats win the court case quickly. Things seem to be moving at a rapid pace.

Hopefully before too long we'll be able to find out what exactly Trump is hiding in his top-secret tax returns. Whatever he is hiding, it must be a big deal, the way he is fighting so hard to prevent disclosure.

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