Milkshaking needs to be a thing here in the U.S.

[backscatter712]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/20/nigel-farage-doused-with-milkshake-in-newcastle

Man arrested after Brexit party leader is latest EU elections candidate to be soaked

Matthew Weaver

Mon 20 May 2019 09.07 EDT

Nigel Farage has been hit by a milkshake in Newcastle city centre, after a spate of similar incidents against far-right candidates in the European elections campaign.

The Brexit party leader appeared to be furious after the incident and was heard to mutter, “it’s a complete failure, you could have spotted that a mile off” as his security team led him away.

A 32-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of common assault, Northumbria police said.

Paul Crowther, who was dragged away and handcuffed, said: “It’s a right of protest against people like him.” Standing in handcuffs outside a Waterstones bookshop in Newcastle city centre, Crowther said he did not regret his actions.

This needs to be done to every Republican in the Country...

[hlthe2b]

1. I vote for banana... with extra YELLOW food coloring

[backscatter712]

8. I vote for milk... with an expiration date from the Obama Administration...

[I_have_had_enough]

45. what if that shake was..

...something horrid.
Acid attacks are a 'thing' in Europe.
Thinking 'we' are better than this in the arena of ideas.
We win when we explain our beliefs, every time.
I think it is a positive when we 'allow them to be wrong'.

[hlthe2b]

46. Oh stop it. Not one on this thread is doing any more than venting. You know no one is serious.

Give it a damned break.

I__Have__Had__Enough of the thought police. (see what I did there... )

[dameatball]

2. Probably not a good idea, unless one wants to get arrested. I'm okay with the sentiment, not with

assaulting people because of party affiliation.

[still_one]

7. I think one should be more concerned about getting shot in the U.S.

[backscatter712]

11. Some of us can live with being arrested.

And a law that makes no distinction between a milkshake that does nothing but make a mess and cost a trip to the cleaners, and a fist that causes physical bodily harm, is a brain-damaged law.

[dameatball]

14. Okay, if you want to go that route have at it.

[procon]

15. It's still an assault.

A 16 ounce milkshake weighs the same as a 1 pound rock. If you get hit in the head or the face, or even the small bone structures of the wrist and hand, by any type of 1 lb projectile, significant injuries can result.

It's not just the arrest, but the conviction that will become a permanent part of your record. That will have an impact on your future employment. You could also be looking at huge fines as well as additional civil charges against you for the act of violence if your targeted victim goes to the court for compensation.

[LanternWaste]

21. The oppressive, tyrannical, and heavy-handed brutality of milkshakes is certainly not a laughing mat

The oppressive, tyrannical, and heavy-handed brutality of milkshakes is certainly not a laughing matter. Your concern seems almost *too* timid and ambivalent in regards to the systemic and violent history of The Milkshake.

Injured wrists, indeed! And let's not even start on the brutal and bloodthirsty regime of the middle school pillow fight... a feather to the eye can wreak havoc and chaos on the juridical system, the individual and the collective good as a whole.

[procon]

22. Ah... It's to be the cavilier approach, is it?

Look, you can't refute anything I said with that sort of simple minded juvenile silliness. The reasoned argument is that the law makes no distinction of the objects used as an assault weapon, so whether you throw a package of frozen food, a milkshake, a brick or a bottle, it's still an assault.

You minimize the consequences of an assault with no apparent understanding of the problems facing someone with an assault conviction. Let's not add to that shortcoming by encouraging impressionable people to place themselves in legal jeopardy and significant financial loss over a stupid stunt.

[mr_lebowski]

27. What if one ... ya know, takes the lid off, and doesn't throw, but rather splashes?

Is this a dangerous assault in your book?

Just askin'

Also ... weight equality aside, do you really think a paper/styrofoam cup filled with a viscous liquid is capable of causing similar damage ... to a solid ROCK of equal weight, when hurled at the likely velocity that would be in play here?

Please.

[ProudLib72]

29. I'm with you on the lid off approach

Or does that signify premeditated attempted murder by milkshake?

[backscatter712]

44. Let's be realistic.

The initial charge would be simple battery, which is the kind of charge you'd get in the aftermath of a barroom brawl.

Lawyer up, and it'll get pled down to disorderly conduct, which is about as severe as a speeding ticket.

[jberryhill]

57. "Lawyer up"

Yeah, as if you could afford a lawyer.

Also, be ready to miss a lot of work and pay a lot of fees.

[BannonsLiver]

28. Yes, the horrors of the wrist breaking milkshake!1!1!1

Won’t someone think of the children!1!1

[H2O Man]

87. These milkshakes

are being brought across the Mixican border by illegal aliens from the third stone from the sun. Each year, hundreds of thousands -- even millions -- of Americans are murdered in the unsafety of their own homes by illegal milk shakes. We can't have our children exposed to this threat.

[Nuggets]

82. Excuse me I have to get some pearls to clutch. nt

[Tipperary]

36. Cool story bro.

Who will be your first target? So we can stay apprised.

[jberryhill]

53. How about just a friendly breast groping?

[marble falls]

64. How about just keeping quiet and sitting on the back of the bus? ...

BTW, your "friendly breast groping" comes out of your own mind, no one here has ever heard about it before.

[jberryhill]

65. Assault is assault is assault

There are men who believe they have the right to touch women without consent in a "friendly" way.

There are apparently, idiots here on DU who think it is fine to throw liquids onto others because "some people are worse".

There was a time in which the advocacy of violent crimes was not acceptable at DU.

We have quite a history in this country of people getting close to politicians and attempting to kill them. Committing physical attacks on politicians is not okay.

Bet you thought this was a laugh riot:

[marble falls]

75. Then what do we lawyer for? Especialy "invention" lawyers?

[marble falls]

63. Its called civil disobedience. We have a long history of it and the possibility of being ...

arrested is part of it.

[jberryhill]

67. Dumbest comment in the thread

Yes, Gandhi and MLK were well known for throwing shit at people.

Committing a violent crime against a person - which is what assault and battery is - is not "civil disobedience". It is actively being an asshole, and being arrested for it does not at all persuade anyone that it is an over-reaction by an oppressive system.

I gather you intend to determine whether your victim has any potential allergies to whatever it is you intend to throw on them, or are you going to just take your chances with what you get charged with?

[marble falls]

69. Dumbest non responsive correction of a post ...

I stated no intention of throwing anything at anyone. We're talking about civil disobedience not about what I would or wouldn't do.

We have a strong history of civil disobedience in this country and being arrested has always been part of the equation.

jberry you love stirring it up as childishly as you can. You've succeeded stunningly this time.

[jberryhill]

70. Go ahead and cite the history of "civil disobedience" including attacking people

What is this "strong history" of committing assault and battery as "civil disobedience"?

I somehow missed MLK throwing pies in the faces of the cops at Selma.

[marble falls]

73. I guess you missed the almost the entire history of labor disputes in the US from the mid 1800's ...

thru the 1970's and the anti-Viet Nam war movement.

Do you think Rev King wasn't figuring the possibility of being arrested?

[jberryhill]

88. Who did Rev King assault?

Violent labor confrontations had nothing to do with civil disobedience.

The dynamic of civil - “civil” - disobedience is to seize the moral high ground by exposing unjustified punishment for acts of conscience. Not simply “getting arrested” and deservedly so, for physically attacking someone.

[marble falls]

89. Dumb question. Have you stopped beating your domestic partner, yet?

https://www.irishecho.com/2011/02/78-years-ago-notre-dame-battles-the-kkk-3/

Nowhere in America was the Klan stronger and more vocal than in Indiana. According to historian Murray Sperber in his excellent book, “Shake Down the Thunder: The Creation of Notre Dame Football,” about one in three adult white men (approximately 250,000) in Indiana in 1924 were members of the Klan. They were drawn to the Klan’s professions of patriotism and traditional values. Economic factors also played a role, as the American farmer — in contrast to the “roaring” economies of the cities — suffered from falling prices and foreclosures in the 1920s. The Klan helped them identify the sources of their woe — Jewish bankers, Wall Street tycoons, uppity blacks, and the Catholic Church. Not surprisingly, Notre Dame became a favorite target of Klan conspiracy mongers.
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Needless to say, Notre Dame students and faculty were keenly aware of the Klan’s animosity. So when the Klan’s newspaper, The Fiery Cross, announced that a week-long “Klavern” would take place in South Bend beginning on May 17, passions were aroused and plans quietly made for the Klan to be met with an appropriate greeting. When the first Klansmen stepped off their train on the 17th, a crowd of angry students descended upon them, beating them and shredding their robes and regalia before forcibly putting them back on the train. South Bend police arrived soon thereafter and allowed the successive trainloads of Klansmen to detrain.

Nonetheless, clashes between Notre Dame students and Klansmen occurred throughout the weekend near the convention hall housing the Klan’s rally. The students’ fury reached a fever pitch on May 19, when rumors (false it turned out) flew about that Klansmen had killed a Notre Dame student. Thousands of students massed downtown intent on tearing the Klavern to shreds. Only the arrival of college president Fr. Matthew Walsh and a spring downpour managed to cool the crowd and no further violence occurred. The next day, football coach Knute Rockne spoke at a campus rally and implored the students to obey the college president and refrain from further violence. A few days later the Klavern broke up and South Bend returned to normal.




Who knows what was on Dr King's mind. Whatever was in Dr King's mind has nothing to with what we're "discussing". Which is you don't like certain forms of civil disobedience. My only point is being arrested is a consideration no matter what form civil disobedience takes. Ask Dr King.

[dameatball]

68. I understand that. Do you understand that the OP stated "This needs to be done to every Republican

in the country?" I don't quite take that statement seriously, but yet why post it? It did sort of detract from an otherwise informative post.

[marble falls]

71. You and Jberry need to get into a spat. I don't think milkshaking is a wonderful idea ...

and I think being arrested for committing civil disobedience is a consideration. It was every time I went to the streets protesting the war when I was a member of the Mobilization Against the War in the late sixties. Its a consideration every time I smoke a joint in Texas.

[dameatball]

74. Naw, not interested in a spat. Jberry? Not sure where that's coming from, but it's all good.

[marble falls]

76. This ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12125912

I know you and I were good.

I really don't want you to have the unpleasantness of any interaction jberry.

[dameatball]

79. Oh okay. I've really only had one unpleasant interaction on DU and it was probably my fault. Have a

good day.

[marble falls]

80. We're good, bubba!

[tritsofme]

3. Or, let's not assault people based on political disagreements

and vote them out office instead.

[exboyfil]

5. Absolutely

Thank you.

[backscatter712]

25. Tell that to them

We're talking milkshakes, they're riling up mass-shooting psychos.

And I ran fresh out of civility towards these cockroaches and murderers when they started throwing children into concentration camps and ripping babies from the arms of their mothers.

No. Don't be civil to those monsters. Civility is for human beings, and Republicans no longer qualify as human.

[tritsofme]

26. You can reject "civility" without embracing assault. Your rhetoric of dehumanization is also highly

troubling.

There is absolutely no room for political violence in the Democratic party.

[MichMary]

37. Yes! Like--

--James Hodgkinson.

[cwydro]

90. Please do keep us posted and let us see the video when you "milkshake" someone?

Who do you have in mind for your first milkshake?

Are you starting at the top, or maybe with some small fry, city council person perhaps?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

4. It already is. Here, it's called assault and battery, in all 50 states.

What tritsofme says in https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212122586#post3 is right.

Full disclosure: IANAL. Pay the $2.

[hlthe2b]

23. This is a "venting thread"... I sincerely doubt ANYONE would seriously consider such a tactic

It is unfortunate we have to qualify, but yes I'd never do anything of the kind.

[jberryhill]

51. Absolutely

Plus, be suspicious of people advocating criminal activity.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. Regional variations. Frapping. Cabinetting. Etc

[jpljr77]

9. No way. Whoever did that would get instantly shot 17 times. I'm not exaggerating, and that's sad.

[backscatter712]

13. No risk, no gain...

[lillypaddle]

10. Terrible idea

WTF?

[ck4829]

50. Other terrible ideas...

Having a government consist of conspiracy theorists

Alt-right supportive of the government

Profits being more important than people... even and especially in healthcare

Confederate statues being valued more than human lives

Having a party's base be more outraged by students fed up with school shootings than by, you know, the school shooters

... Yet, here we are.

[jberryhill]

55. So if someone walks around with poop on their head

You'll be saying it's a great idea to walk around with pee on our heads.

After all, it's not nearly as bad as walking around with poop on your head.

[lillypaddle]

77. Really? Gee, I didn't know that

So let's assault people ourselves.

[procon]

12. Yeah... Well, no. C'mon, let's not do stupid stuff.

Why would anyone want to add an assault conviction to their record? Employers would be leary of hiring someone that volitle and undisaplined. Could you get a security clearance with that charge in your file?

Protesting is one thing, but disapproval can be expressed in many non violent ways besides doing something that idiotic that hurts the milkshake thrower far worse than the target.

[pecosbob]

16. I would never advocate this sort of thing

but I have to admit the biggest smile I had yesterday with all the great news was to hear that Farage had been 'trapped' in his motorcade for an extended period by several people holding milkshakes...don't think there was any actual lactose lambasting though.

[Rambling Man]

17. This gives me the vapors!

[Blues Heron]

18. juvenile, sign of impotence

also - assault. Bad idea all the way around.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. Reminds me of this scene from the movie Election.

[jalan48]

20. Someone would get shot by police here and that would be the end of milkshaking.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

24. Hop to it!

[cwydro]

92. Lol. I asked the OP who would be his first victim...no answer yet.

I’m looking forward to the video.

I also want to hear how the “lawyering up” goes. Cost, time spent in court, depositions, fees, etc.

[ProudLib72]

30. What's wrong with Teflon Nigel that he doesn't like milkshakes?

Everyone who isn't lactose intolerant loves milkshakes. Maybe they don't include the right ingredients. Maybe they should use vodka instead of milk.

[Chin music]

32. IMHO I think it's a bad idea. Protesting in groups is the way to go.

Over and over, every weekend. Until this is over. That's a criminal offense directly against a person. We aren't scoff laws. If we get arrested protesting, that's something else, bc we have a constitutional OBLIGATION to stand up to tyranny.
Milkshakes, imho, is pretty petty. They will just scream for more security, and private firms can fill the void. NOT good. Plus it gives them MORE reason to not face the public. They want an excuse to hide.
Do it the right way. Just me though.

[Turin_C3PO]

33. As much as I like the idea on a visceral level,

doing that here would get you arrested and possibly shot, depending on the target. It sure is tempting though, isn’t it?

[PETRUS]

34. How funny, I quite literally just read an article that agrees with you.

"In Defense Of Throwing Food On People," by G.D. Forrest

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/05/in-defense-of-throwing-food-on-people

[PETRUS]

40. True!

You might appreciate the article.

[Chin music]

41. I try to click on as few things as possible. Thank you for letting me comment wo it, though.

Appreciated.

[jberryhill]

58. Throwing an unknown chemical substance on someone will certainly get you shot

Nobody but you knows what is in that cup.

Until it has been confirmed as food, it is going to be seen as an unknown chemical substance.

[Triloon]

35. For a vegan alternative, consider the coconut.

[dustyscamp]

39. Hey the Alt-Right Loves milk so why not give them some?

https://thewire.in/world/alt-right-milk-white-supremacy

[ck4829]

48. Right

[jmowreader]

42. Why waste a perfectly good milkshake dumping it on evil scum?

I move we work hard to take back Congress and the White House, and when we're there we work even harder to undo all the damage Trump and the Republicans caused...starting with re-gerrymandering all the screwed-up states to ensure that as few Republicans as possible get elected. Sauce for the goose, as they say.

[mwooldri]

43. After that, Mr Farage decided his battle bus was a safer place...

... when some people carrying milkshakes got too close...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/108816124

Who's the snowflake?

[ck4829]

49. LOL

[ck4829]

47. K&R

[jberryhill]

52. Ha! Yeah! Let's commit crimes against people

What other forms of unconsented physical touching should we do?

[brooklynite]

54. Hell no...

Violence is never an acceptable form of protest, and certainly not 'because they do it too".

How did this stupid stunt change any minds or advance the discussion?

[jberryhill]

56. Welcome to DU

[brooklynite]

59. Um, I've been here for 18 years...

[jberryhill]

62. Be that as it may

There are many here whose moral reasoning has not advanced past 5.

[USALiberal]

72. Wow, what an odd response. You seem mean a lot. Nt

[jberryhill]

84. People advocating violent acts to advance a political agenda piss me off

They frequently show up for the purpose of encouraging others to do unproductive things.

I normally assume that adults don't need to be told that it is not okay to throw things at people they disagree with.

But you, on the other hand, think it is "mean" to tell people not to throw things at other people.

I had not realized how many people here flunked kindergarten.

[USALiberal]

85. brooklynite Was against the violent act and you smarted off to him. Nt

[jberryhill]

86. "Smarted off"

Oh my goodness, I made a an ironic comment about the prevalence of folks here who believe that throwing things at people they don’t like is an acceptable form of political expression. Heaven forfend.

And I’m “mean” because I object to throwing things at people or of unconsented touching in a manner intended to cause offense or alarm - aka battery among civilized people.

Oh, the horror!

What would Brooklynite do without you. But, frankly, he seems self confident and adult enough not to lose a moment’s sleep over it, even if he did not catch my intended drift. I’ve been led to believe that persons who identify with Brooklyn consider themselves to be made of resolute stuff, and I have every reason to believe them.

Thank goodness I didn’t throw unknown chemical substances on him, or anyone else for that matter.

[USALiberal]

94. WTF are you talking about.......

He said.....

Hell No
Violence is never an acceptable form of protest, and certainly not 'because they do it too".

How the hell did that ake you think he was justifying it???

[jberryhill]

95. I was commenting on people who do

I’m sorry you did not get the drift of “welcome to DU” as in “in case you haven’t noticed, there are people who think throwing things at people is fine.”

[JHB]

60. Newly-existing conditional

[dameatball]

61. If I were to throw a milkshake at every Republican in my red little town, I would go broke and then

probably need rotator cuff surgery.

[Gothmog]

66. Agreed

[Blues Heron]

78. that's what they want you to do- start throwing things

then they have you right where they want - in handcuffs. Non-violence is the only way with these types.

Beware those that advocate violence of any kind.

[tblue37]

81. Not a fan of actual physical assaults. Besides, we did have something similar--

remember the pie in the face attacks?

[LiberalFighter]

83. Nah -- Do a slip and trip with sushi in their face.

[eShirl]

91. let's not normalize assault

even as protest

[Mc Mike]

93. Spike those shakes with Preparation H.

It will make it seem, to the benightedly unenlightened, like the rapture is occurring.