Some of the farmers are getting it.

[ginnyinWI]

Listening to Washington Journal on Cspan this morning about the bailout. They don't want welfare they want a free market. Say Trump is doing nothing for them. Still losing money. They know that his meddling in the markets is ruining them. They want people to understand that they, not China will be paying for it. Prices will rise.

"This guy is an idiot." The 16 billion in disaster aid is not going to do it for them. The last bailout gave them something like one cent on a bushel. One guy got over 100K in bailout money last time but still lost money overall.

[ananda]

1. Buyer's remorse ...

That's what you get for not paying attention or
deliberately and willfully voting for a failed
businessman and con man, sexual predator,
racist white supremacist ... all of which was
not hard to realize before the election.

[Golden Raisin]

2. Their talk is cheap. Let's see

how this actually translates in the privacy of the voting booth and if they stop voting for Republicans, to say nothing of Trump. I'd like to be proven wrong.

[NewJeffCT]

4. I'm suspicious until they actually vote

Back in 2004, I used to work with a guy that usually voted Republican, but was telling everybody he could talk to in the summer of 2004 that Bush was awful and to vote Kerry. And, he was on the phone a lot for his job. (Actually, kind of unprofessional of him to be that political in a work environment, but I digress...)

However, after the election was over and Bush won by stealing Ohio, he confessed to voting Bush and a few others did as well... because Fox News and other media had so successfully demonized Kerry that they were afraid to vote for him.

[NewJeffCT]

3. It won't take many farmers

to swing the vote in some Midwestern states.

Especially if more publicity gets out about some of the farm bailout money going to Brazil and to China.

[Aristus]

5. 'Getting it' is worthless unless they help vote him out.

"Yep, he's killin' me here, but heck, he pisses off th'libtards, so I'm votin' fer him agin" is probably what we're going to end up getting from these clowns.

[brewens]

6. Here is where you can see just who the welfare farmers are.

https://farm.ewg.org/search.php

[renate]

18. how interesting that this database exists!

I can’t get it to work on my phone but next time I’m on my computer I’ll be interested to see which areas get the most subsidies.

Thanks!

[brewens]

21. There are friends of mine on the list. I found that years ago. The one thing I say is not

to ever let those people tell you we can't have government do good things for us. It does for them and they like it.

[LiberalFighter]

7. The Chinese market for soybeans was 30%. That is huge!

[wasupaloopa]

8. When do poor people on the street get bail out money?

[mopinko]

9. farmers believe in climate change. if they didnt in '16, they do now.

that aint gonna help the do nothing party.

i think a lot of them are smart enough to see that the payments are going to his voters, and farmers in blue states are getting screwed. and it hurts a lot of them a lot more because they are tree farmers. its a different animal, and any good farmer knows that.

hillary dont live here no more. that is gonna start dawning on them.

[Achilleaze]

20. republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous

farmers need to "get" that.

republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous
republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous
republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous
republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous
republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous
republican lies about climate change are profoundly dangerous

[leftyladyfrommo]

10. Farmers aren't dumb. Farming is big business now.

They have to be aware of the markets. They are all computer wise. They are extremely sensitive to the weather. And most if ttem are good, caring people. Don't under estimate them.

They have to be very practical. And they all talk to each other.

[ginnyinWI]

13. the ones I listened to seemed intelligent, informed, articulate.

You are right, it is a business. They get college degrees to learn how to run them, even if the farm has been in the family for generations.

[Ohiogal]

14. I sure hope the intelligent farmers come to this conclusion.

I'm afraid that, even if many of them are going under, they'll still vote R because of guns and abortion.

[jcgoldie]

16. And racism...

Who cares... most farms in the midwest are on the scale that farmers arent determining the results of a national election anyway. More dirt and less people doesn't win elections.

[Skittles]

15. they voted for him knowing he would hurt people

they never dreamed it would be THEM

[lunatica]

17. Cry me a river

They earned their problem. They gave him the keys to their houses and threw the doors open and begged him to enter. Now they cry because he robbed them blind. Fuck them.

[Skittles]

19. LUNATICA NAILS IT

yes INDEED