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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:11 PM May 2019

Dan Rather: "This is despicable in too many ways to count."

Dan Rather
@DanRather

We have a president of the United States wink at a murderous dictator to mock a former vice president? As what? A campaign surrogate for 2020? This is despicable in too many ways to count.
10:08 PM · May 25, 2019 · Twitter Web Client


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Dan Rather: "This is despicable in too many ways to count." (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2019 OP
Despicable and treasonous. dalton99a May 2019 #1
TREASONOUS. That is the correct word. Laelth May 2019 #33
Exactly! And that same constitution very clearly describes TREASON as hughee99 May 2019 #37
Treason is definitely in the eye of the beholder. n/t Laelth May 2019 #42
It seems to be on political websites. hughee99 May 2019 #44
I don't have any reason to contradict your definition of treason. n/t Laelth May 2019 #45
It's not treason... TwilightZone May 2019 #39
I suppose an argument could be made that we actually ARE at war with Russia - calimary May 2019 #40
It requires an active state of war. TwilightZone May 2019 #41
And he is in Japan where Kim Jong Un is terrifying to the Japanese. applegrove May 2019 #2
Pretending like he's got everything handled. Chin music May 2019 #3
Talked to my sister in law right after Trump won and i asked her what she thought of Trump. applegrove May 2019 #7
I understand the concern of the People of Japan. Chin music May 2019 #12
It is bad to live under constant fear. Dam if we couldn't just erase all applegrove May 2019 #15
Time for the gop to call for his resignation, and give him a corporate style reason why he should. Chin music May 2019 #17
Trump owns the GOP and that is why he keeps bonding with his base. They are why he owns the applegrove May 2019 #19
Well, sure would beat Scarsdale May 2019 #32
It's Memorial Day weekend, FFS Fritz Walter May 2019 #22
Instead of 'Decoration Day', sprinkleeninow May 2019 #27
Desecration Day is right! meow2u3 May 2019 #34
Aggghhhh Billy Ray Joe Bob. May 2019 #4
Once he is gone we still have his supporters in the millions. gordianot May 2019 #5
True Billy Ray Joe Bob. May 2019 #6
Paper ballots watoos May 2019 #8
hand marked and hand counted Grasswire2 May 2019 #35
Great point. Unless we make a legit example of them, the wilfully ignorant Chin music May 2019 #14
His base is shrinking. Baked in, but shrinking. Grasswire2 May 2019 #36
+1 Chin music May 2019 #43
Are you referring to Trump or to Kim? DBoon May 2019 #16
Ther minions share common traits as well. gordianot May 2019 #21
There seriously is no low that he won't stoop to. Initech May 2019 #9
I just hope his next low is six feet under...... lastlib May 2019 #10
May he eat as many hamburders as he wants! Initech May 2019 #11
that should come to a head in front of 50 mil certainot May 2019 #18
Double scoops ice cream on his very fine chocolate cake. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #20
May his cholesterol be 50 points above his IQ. Initech May 2019 #23
Mb the number that 'doctor' 😏 determined his very fine most excellent sprinkleeninow May 2019 #25
Still not high enough. smirkymonkey May 2019 #30
hey #fatdonnie Nancy questioned that you could eat more than 1 big mac in 30 minutes-those tiny demtenjeep May 2019 #24
Add a side of deep fried ding dongs. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #26
Perfect, Dan Rather.. Thank You! Cha May 2019 #13
He would launch a first strike nuke attack on Wakanda. 912gdm May 2019 #28
FAKE president. pansypoo53219 May 2019 #29
We Are At A Tipping Point colsohlibgal May 2019 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #38

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
33. TREASONOUS. That is the correct word.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

Treason is also the only crime specifically enumerated in the Constitution. The penalty for treason is death, and that is why the Supreme Court could not rule that the death penalty is unconstitutional. It’s actually spelled out in the Constitution as a penalty for treason (but only for treason). Still, the death penalty must be constitutional, our justices ruled, because it’s actually proscribed in the Constitution as the appropriate penalty for treason.

-Laelth

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
37. Exactly! And that same constitution very clearly describes TREASON as
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:02 PM
May 2019

“People I don’t like doing things I don’t like”, if I recall correctly.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
44. It seems to be on political websites.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
May 2019

As I said, many people define treason as "people I don't like doing things I don't like".

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
39. It's not treason...
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:25 PM
May 2019

because treason of the "aid and comfort to our enemies" variety requires an enemy, usually a declared one, and we're not at war with Russia.

That's also covered in the Constitution.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
40. I suppose an argument could be made that we actually ARE at war with Russia -
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:53 PM
May 2019

depending on how you define war in the first quarter of the 21st century. If you're talking about conventional bang-bang/boom-boom/rockets-red-glare/heavy artillery kind of war, then okay.

But if you're talking about WHAT HAPPENED HERE, cyber-warfare that actually could be described as staging a coup, as we'll probably see war evolve toward (if indeed it's not already underway), then it certainly fit the parameters of treason.

He's a freakin' TRAITOR, at the very least.

Depends on how you define "war."

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
41. It requires an active state of war.
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:02 PM
May 2019

We're not at war with Russia, officially or otherwise. An attempt to hack our elections doesn't fit the definition, even if stretched to its limit. The definition is (intentionally, as designed by the founders) incredibly narrow.

Here's a good explanation of the narrow scope of treason and why it almost never applies. If the Cold War didn't fit the definition, the current situation certainly doesn't.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
3. Pretending like he's got everything handled.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:25 PM
May 2019

The missiles don. The missiles. It's groundhog day w your approach. You know, the approach that didn't work the last time.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
7. Talked to my sister in law right after Trump won and i asked her what she thought of Trump.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:40 PM
May 2019

My brother said that she only cared what his NK policy was going to be. She loved Obama. But security needs rise to the top. I wonder how she feels now being in Japan.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
12. I understand the concern of the People of Japan.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:23 PM
May 2019

Especially when the guy trump fell in love with; obliterated his Uncle w an Anti Aircraft Gun, poisoned his brother in an airport w a deadly neuro toxin, and has fed People to dogs alive. Shows a stunning lack of concern for life.
trumps in wayyy over his head. I hope your family will be ok.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
15. It is bad to live under constant fear. Dam if we couldn't just erase all
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:33 PM
May 2019

evil men or fix them somehow.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
17. Time for the gop to call for his resignation, and give him a corporate style reason why he should.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

Just like how they deal w primadonnas in a business, that is past their expiry date, and is now dangerous for the company...erm..country. The first thing that comes to mind is a "golden parachute/retirement" angle. Warms folks up to leaving, and gives them (in their minds) an honorable way out. How they do it in the corporate world, whatever that looks like. Bc lets face it, this is just corporate America, installed as a president. Time to resign don.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
19. Trump owns the GOP and that is why he keeps bonding with his base. They are why he owns the
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:48 PM
May 2019

replicans because they make 37% of the electorate or 84% of the republicans. That being said republicans own all of the policies Trump puts forward with the exception of foreign policy and trade. So they are like a couple of crabs stuck on each other. One of them will lose a claw some day. But it has not happened yet. I'm with Pelosi. They need to be voted out.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Well, sure would beat
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019

electing them to high office!! Strange that most of them have (R) behind their names.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
22. It's Memorial Day weekend, FFS
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:48 AM
May 2019

Is he going to send thoughts and prayers via Twitter come Monday? Have Iskanka and JarJar lay the traditional wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier?

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
5. Once he is gone we still have his supporters in the millions.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:36 PM
May 2019

Unless his crimes are fully exposed and dealt with they will happen again.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
35. hand marked and hand counted
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:24 PM
May 2019

Never connected to a machine or a network.

THAT is the gold standard for election integrity.

There are now machines using a bar code for tallying, and the vote is more easily tampered with.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
14. Great point. Unless we make a legit example of them, the wilfully ignorant
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:28 PM
May 2019

won't have to reckon with their own foolishness in regard to trump. Then i think to myself. Stop it. I DONT CARE WHAT HIS MILLIONS(?) OF PEOPLE WILL DO W THEMSELVES. They need to start dealing in reality. It's always THEM as a variable in our algebra. WHY? They never do stuff in deference to us. Impeach now. It just needs to happen. Let's go damn it.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
36. His base is shrinking. Baked in, but shrinking.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:27 PM
May 2019

So I don't understand the fear that impeachment will drive more support to him in 2020.

There is no center any more-- no voters will be driven to him if his crimes are openly and clearly explained to the American people.

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
10. I just hope his next low is six feet under......
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:49 PM
May 2019

I share your frustration. Hoping more people share my seeething hatred of this basturd.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
11. May he eat as many hamburders as he wants!
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:56 PM
May 2019

Oh and ride around in that golf cart as many times as he wants, gain that extra poundage. Because walking and exercise are for stupid losers.

Also a few more buckets of KFC and some Filet O Fish sandwiches couldn't hurt either!

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
20. Double scoops ice cream on his very fine chocolate cake.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:54 PM
May 2019

And some battered and fried creme filled donuts as a bonus.

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
25. Mb the number that 'doctor' 😏 determined his very fine most excellent
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:39 AM
May 2019

weight to be? 239+45=danger zone. 🌋

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
24. hey #fatdonnie Nancy questioned that you could eat more than 1 big mac in 30 minutes-those tiny
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:27 AM
May 2019

hands to lend itself to that manly challenge-prove her wrong





(I'm so bad)

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
26. Add a side of deep fried ding dongs.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:46 AM
May 2019

You can HANDle that bc ur soo manly. 🤧

[Joining you in being bad. 😀]

912gdm

(959 posts)
28. He would launch a first strike nuke attack on Wakanda.
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:58 AM
May 2019

And his supporters would cheer since he is 'triggering the libs'

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
31. We Are At A Tipping Point
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:02 AM
May 2019

This Orange Creep is dropping any kind of pretense, aligning and buddying up with brutal dictators, to now I guess pardoning right wing psychopaths.

There are comfortably more of us than them. But because of the idiotic Electoral College, the inequities of the Senate where 35 % of the population controls 70% of the Senate, And gerrymandering we are in grave danger of a long dark period. A “man” who lost by 3 million votes is bringing us to a real danger point.....with the complicity of the Senate and Social Media.

The Courts are so far pushing back, some State Authorities And Courts are pushing back but in the end who is going to force this would be Authoritarian to comply with anything?

If somehow we get back to some kind of normal we need to name McConnell as perp #2.

In 2020 show up and vote, vote all the way down the ballot to school commissioners, it matters. We must play both the short game and the long game.

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