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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:30 AM May 2019

Trump's inability to write is NOT a sign of dementia. It's a sign of something worse.

1. Lying comes as naturally to Trump as breathing. He lies about all things big and small. He lies about things where lies aren't even necessary.

2. Trump rambles and meanders through speeches, stumbling from one topic to the next.

3. Trump blurts his unfiltered thoughts into Twitter, with no thought spared to the question whether he should write that or whether this is the best way to communicate this particular thought to the public.

4. He doesn't know how to write basic words. "hamberder", "achomlishment", "intenially", "Joe Bidan"

What does this tell us?

It doesn't tell us that Trump is losing his mental faculties due to dementia or similar.

It tells us that Trump has utterly, finally and thoroughly run out of fucks to give.



Donald Trump doesn't give enough of a fuck to lie to you with a believable lie.

Donald Trump doesn't give enough of a fuck to make sure that you understand what he's trying to tell you.

Donald Trump doesn't give enough of a fuck to write words in a way that other people could read them.






Sure that's politically dangerous because of the power invested into him, but let's look at the psychological dimension.
What happens to a person that insulates itself from other opinions, other ideas, other people?

Let me refer to a short-story used in german-courses. "Ein Tisch ist ein Tisch" ("A table is a table") by Peter Bichsel. It's a simple yet heart-wrenching story.
An old man lived mostly alone. One day, out of boredom, he decided to rename things. A bed is a picture. A table is a carpet. A chair is a clock. And so forth. He liked it how this mixed things up and he began to use his alternative meaning more and more frequently. This alternative language, this alternative reality, became his new home and he forgot how to use proper language. He's all alone now. He cannot talk to other people and other people cannot talk to him. His isolation is complete.





"Hell is other people" is a misunderstood phrase. Hell is not BEING around other people. The phrase means that the presence of other people forces us the evaluate ourselves with respect to how we want other people to see us.

Trump has mentally retreated from the outside world. Things are whatever he wants them to be. As his friend Rudy Giuliani said: "There is no truth."

What awaits a mind that has given up on the corrective that is the outside world?

Insanity.

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Trump's inability to write is NOT a sign of dementia. It's a sign of something worse. (Original Post) DetlefK May 2019 OP
Recommended Dennis Donovan May 2019 #1
To it show that he's just a dumb fuck who was too lazy in school to learn basic things... brush May 2019 #29
And yet we are expected to "respect" the walking pustule. nt Atticus May 2019 #2
The way I see it is that trump is allowed to be what he is because of his base. People who are wasupaloopa May 2019 #3
Yes, I think that eight years of a black man in the Presidency... Girard442 May 2019 #6
Trump's base (and the # of people comprising it) is the real problem, of course. MH1 May 2019 #10
One thing that shocked me was how many Trumpsters had never voted before. LuckyLib May 2019 #33
Idiocracy turned out to be a documentary lunatica May 2019 #23
This can't be true. Scarsdale May 2019 #4
one of those for whom fucking up has had no real adverse consequences for him. KG May 2019 #5
it's kind of interesting to look at NJCher May 2019 #8
"Melanie". It doesn't hit closer to home than that. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #7
Right? PJMcK May 2019 #12
He is a total asshole. Norms and standards are irrelevant to him. nt NCjack May 2019 #9
This is my take. He's not insane. klook May 2019 #19
I think it is more that he's had so many people sucking up to him in his life that demigoddess May 2019 #28
Great Point. klook May 2019 #32
I suspect that his parents didn't praise him very much Fortinbras Armstrong May 2019 #36
He has not been inconvenienced by them loyalsister May 2019 #39
I think most of those things PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #11
He doesn't give a fuck about anything but himself vlyons May 2019 #13
I love that you mentioned the meaning of "Hell is other people". smirkymonkey May 2019 #14
He makes sure to hold court so other people will grovel to him lunatica May 2019 #24
It's more a product of resentment of all things intellectual. Texin May 2019 #15
So true and we all pay the price appalachiablue May 2019 #16
from Frank Zappa 90-percent May 2019 #34
I have a masters from Harvard Fortinbras Armstrong May 2019 #37
I think it's a sign of dyslexia Poiuyt May 2019 #17
he's got a very bad case of sex on the wrong brain certainot May 2019 #18
Trump's delivery is of a stand up comic. CaptYossarian May 2019 #20
"My Daddy gave me lots of money, so I called myself smart and just ignored school" struggle4progress May 2019 #21
He is the definition of a Sociopath. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #22
He's also the definition of a narcissist. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong May 2019 #38
Agreed. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #40
Excellent observations. It's a collective insanity. sandensea May 2019 #25
You could be a black tumor of a human, it don't matter...... Mopar151 May 2019 #26
Well, THAT sure doesn't cheer me up! Honestly, when I was reading this, PatrickforO May 2019 #27
His drooling base adores all of this about Trump. That's how "those people" are...nt Progressive Jones May 2019 #30
Just remember, dear hearts, Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #31
Belongs in an institution other than The Wizard May 2019 #35

brush

(53,763 posts)
29. To it show that he's just a dumb fuck who was too lazy in school to learn basic things...
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:21 PM
May 2019

about his native tongue. And he is borderline demented. He'll be there soon.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
3. The way I see it is that trump is allowed to be what he is because of his base. People who are
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:46 AM
May 2019

as fucked up as he is. Fucked up because in every other respect they are just like us but with respect to trump they don’t care about how fucked up he is.

Trump will be gone at some point and how much damage there is to fix we do not know yet, but trump’s base will not help fix things because they will never understand why it is needed.

I think it is so sad that almost half of our country cannot understand how bad things are.

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
6. Yes, I think that eight years of a black man in the Presidency...
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:58 AM
May 2019

...along with the prospect of a woman there drove a lot of people right off their rockers. They'd toss their children into the fiery furnace for Trump.

Who are we kidding -- they are tossing their children into the fiery furnace.

MH1

(17,595 posts)
10. Trump's base (and the # of people comprising it) is the real problem, of course.
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:44 AM
May 2019

Without them - and without there being sufficient number of them - the disaster currently unfolding would never have happened.

We'd be arguing here about how much of a "neo-con" and "warmonger" Hillary Clinton was turning out to be. And grousing about the Senate's extreme delay in confirming appointments (if ever). Maybe wondering if the SC could legally function while down 3 members.

A much better place to be, IMO, even though far from a great place.

But anyway, the existence of MILLIONS of alleged "adults" who are okay with how Trump is, and okay with elevating someone like that to what used to be "leader of the free world" - that is terrifying to me. And has been since the realization dawned on me in 2016 that enough of these people existed to potentially "elect" this P.O.S.

It's crazy how so much evil has been able to grow here.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
33. One thing that shocked me was how many Trumpsters had never voted before.
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:34 AM
May 2019

They came out to the wrestling match to raise hell, get drunk, and vote their support for a loud-mouthed moron.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. This can't be true.
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:51 AM
May 2019

You heard him, more than once declaring himself "A stable genius" If he said it, it has to be true. Personally I think the incorrect spellings are just him being himself, not very intelligent or educated. Remember one of his former professors said he was "The dumbest son of a bitch I ever tried to teach" Nothing has changed with him. Now he is showing the entire world just how stupid the US electorate is, putting him into office. Even though voter suppression and Russians had a lot to do with it.

NJCher

(35,648 posts)
8. it's kind of interesting to look at
Reply to KG (Reply #5)
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:05 AM
May 2019

from that point of view. Who among us has not had to face the consequences? Very few of us.

However, Trump's father provided him with this rental infrastructure that has allowed him to make the most outrageous of mistakes. He can lose more money than anyone in the U.S. and yes he literally did--and face only minor inconvenience.

He's an outlier. It's very rare that someone gets to that age having faced no consequences.

Since nobody really looks at him as the president, maybe we can just look at him as a rare lab speciman, a freak of nature.


PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
12. Right?
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

This jerk can't even spell his wife's name!

If I did that, there'd be some very uncomfortable moments in our house.

But not for Trump. There are no consequences in his life.

Truly remarkable.

klook

(12,153 posts)
19. This is my take. He's not insane.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

He’s had so many people sucking up to him his whole life, lived a life of such privilege and wasteful luxury, treated so many people as appliances for his use, that he is incapable of normal communication or interaction with human beings.

The expression “total fucking asshole” seems inadequate to describe Trump’s utter dissolution and depravity. Insanity, though? That would be letting him off the hook for behavior that — while deeply habitual — could be overcome by someone with an ounce of compassion or empathy.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
28. I think it is more that he's had so many people sucking up to him in his life that
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019

he doesn't have to 'try' at anything. If he doesn't nail it just by half trying then it is someone else's fault. He can blame anyone in the world. I don't think he ever learned how to 'try hard' to do something. Maybe his parents praised him so much as a toddler that he never learned to try.

klook

(12,153 posts)
32. Great Point.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:59 PM
May 2019

The book Mindset by Carol Dweck talks about this very idea. Trump is certainly a prime example of someone taught to believe that he is innately superior no matter what he does.

He started out mediocre and went down from there.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
36. I suspect that his parents didn't praise him very much
Mon May 27, 2019, 08:11 AM
May 2019

So he invented a fantasy world in which he was all wise, the best at everything, and the hero. Any evidence to the contrary, he just blows off. He has never left this fantasy.

Just my bit of armchair psychologizing.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
39. He has not been inconvenienced by them
Mon May 27, 2019, 08:28 AM
May 2019

For most of his life.
Criticism? I bet he has fired anyone who comes close to even the slightest hint.

I think his popularity stems from the desire to live that way. No sensitivity trainings when they traffic in hateful dialogue. Getting rid of family, friends, colleagues, and just walking away from anything that is critical or bothersome.

The popularity of the glorification of firing people on the Apprentice speaks volumes to where we are and how he got elected.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
11. I think most of those things
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:00 AM
May 2019

are simple indications that he's really not all that bright, never really learned to read or write -- certainly never learned certain basics of spelling -- and is generally quite ignorant of most things.

I also have my doubts that he actually has a diagnosible dementia. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about that since I don't know a whole lot about dementia, other than there are a number of different kinds and that generally a person with any kind of dementia goes downhill in a more or less straight line.

Of course, dementia or not, he is supported, cosseted, and protected by those around him. Although why they would continue to work for him simply boggles the mind.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. He doesn't give a fuck about anything but himself
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:19 AM
May 2019

his money, his possessions. I suspect even his children except as extensions of himself.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. I love that you mentioned the meaning of "Hell is other people".
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
May 2019

And how often that phrase has been misunderstood. I think this is what is getting to him. "The presence of other people forces us the evaluate ourselves with respect to how we want other people to see us." There are too many people who see who he really is now and he cannot handle that.

For a long time, he was able to maintain an illusion of a powerful, rich, brilliant business man, but that image is crumbling all around him and he is being exposed for the hollow nobody that he really is. And the entire world is observing it. I think that is what is really eating at him. I honestly hope it kills him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. He makes sure to hold court so other people will grovel to him
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:34 PM
May 2019

We’ve only seen when he does it publicly. I imagine that goes on at every single staff meeting. It’s probably the only reason he has meetings.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
15. It's more a product of resentment of all things intellectual.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:45 AM
May 2019

His base and he share that disdain. It's one of the reasons that GWB was able to win* twice. Americans have been groomed for about the past forty years to be suspicious of and disdainful of "pointy-headed elites", and those in their vaunted "ivory towers". In other words, people have been groomed to be uncritical of what they hear, encouraged not to ask questions, to not challenge accepted "truths", to praise the "common man" and despise and distrust scholars and scholastic achievement and basic intelligence to the point they won't accept professional and scientific information about anything.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
17. I think it's a sign of dyslexia
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:27 AM
May 2019

BTW, most people with dyslexia are good, smart people. Trump, however, is a fascist.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
18. he's got a very bad case of sex on the wrong brain
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

the missing link between wilhelm reich's take on fascism and modern theory of authoritarianism.

he's got a very bad case of something most 'civilized' humans have in lower levels. he MUST avoid uncertainty, the common driver in authoritarians, and has learned to completely deny reality in order to create certainty any time he wants, to live in a world where he is always right and never wrong

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
20. Trump's delivery is of a stand up comic.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:38 PM
May 2019

Imagine if "Man of the Year" starred Don Rickles instead of Robin Williams. His insults and nicknames are a result of immaturity and all his off-the-script flippant craziness during speeches also reflects it. Only he and his trailer trash followers get the joke.

To us Democrats, this is damn serious.

sandensea

(21,620 posts)
25. Excellent observations. It's a collective insanity.
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:15 PM
May 2019

His herd willingly and enthusiastically buy into his world of make-believe, as it feels so much more validating to them that the actual one (of course!).

Mopar151

(9,977 posts)
26. You could be a black tumor of a human, it don't matter......
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:06 PM
May 2019

All you gotta do is s keep drinkin' the Natty Lite, and cheering every time he says something mean. Easy as breathin' for these wretches.

PatrickforO

(14,569 posts)
27. Well, THAT sure doesn't cheer me up! Honestly, when I was reading this,
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:50 PM
May 2019

I thought of Mar-a-Lago and the selfies Trump and his friends took with the nuclear football.

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