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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:13 PM May 2019

The media's obsession with the Dems' impeachment strategy instead of why Trump should be impeached

Last edited Tue May 28, 2019, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

and why Republican completely ignore, justify and enable his wrongdoing - just as they always cover campaigns by focusing on the "horserace" instead of the issues - is lazy, childish and a tremendous disservice to the American public.



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The media's obsession with the Dems' impeachment strategy instead of why Trump should be impeached (Original Post) StarfishSaver May 2019 OP
West Wing Season 4 Episode 8 lapfog_1 May 2019 #1
I agree. FreeBe May 2019 #2
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #3
rope a dope looks like failure at first eShirl May 2019 #4
That's the whole point StarfishSaver May 2019 #5
The media should be obsessed with Republicans ignoring Trump's criminality sop May 2019 #6
I'm ok with Democrats cleaning it up. TryLogic May 2019 #8
Yup. You nailed it. Essentially pushing on Dems instead of an obvious villain. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #7
And they also completely let Republicans off the hook StarfishSaver May 2019 #9
Thread title pretty much nails it. Martin Eden May 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 May 2019 #11
It is indeed mcar May 2019 #12
They learned that they do not pay a price for their complicity. hay rick May 2019 #28
2/29/2016 BeckyDem May 2019 #13
the US media sucks so bad, they are a huge reason this country is so backwards JI7 May 2019 #14
The assumption they make is Red Don's crimes have been socialized and "everybody" knows them. Its uponit7771 May 2019 #15
Until Democrats make the argument that Trump should be impeached the media will talk about the jalan48 May 2019 #16
You believe that? StarfishSaver May 2019 #17
It's up to us to go on the offensive. As long as we remain passive and let the media direct our jalan48 May 2019 #18
You are absolutely right! And the fact that people live love laugh May 2019 #21
Why wasn't impeachment ever talked about when live love laugh May 2019 #20
We were waiting for the Mueller report. Many were convinced Mueller would be the answer to Trump. jalan48 May 2019 #22
Who is the "we" that you refer to? live love laugh May 2019 #23
We is Democrats, Republicans and all Americans. Remember when Mueller was appointed and why? jalan48 May 2019 #24
It's about taking any action at all-- at least Democrats live love laugh May 2019 #25
We were ... TOLD ... by democrats to wait for the Mueller report. That's a fair statement of fact uponit7771 May 2019 #30
Which Democrats told us to wait for the Mueller report because it would be the answer to Trump? StarfishSaver May 2019 #31
Not obsession but deflection nt live love laugh May 2019 #19
It is a default way of enabling republicans - this is a LONG pattern Cosmocat May 2019 #26
Agree 1000000000% Raven123 May 2019 #27
Remember the Networks and Cable News are owned by INdemo May 2019 #29
Such as....you have a link? nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #32
Do you have a link to any major US newspapers making the case for Trump's impeachment? .99center May 2019 #33

lapfog_1

(29,189 posts)
1. West Wing Season 4 Episode 8
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:22 PM
May 2019

"Process Stories"

just about covers this...as usual... The TV show about a fictional President covered a whole lot of what we have seen in the past 17 years.

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

sop

(10,090 posts)
6. The media should be obsessed with Republicans ignoring Trump's criminality
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019

Why let Republicans off the hook? The GOP is responsible for this mess, they should clean it up.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
8. I'm ok with Democrats cleaning it up.
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:53 PM
May 2019

But yes, ABSOLUTELY, the media focus on political strategies and horse race rather than issues is a really big problem with the media.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. And they also completely let Republicans off the hook
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:58 PM
May 2019

Their excuse is that there's no point because the Republicans have altogether abdicated their responsibility.

It seems if you're craven and irresponsible enough, the press won't even bother to hold you accountable.

But if you struggle to do the right thing, you get trashed every day - not just by the media, but people on your own side - because you're not doing it fast enough.

Martin Eden

(12,843 posts)
10. Thread title pretty much nails it.
Mon May 27, 2019, 06:41 PM
May 2019

That kind of media coverage spins a narrative that this is all about partisan politics rather that actual impeachable offenses.

And focusing on the horse race instead of the critically important issues we face is just as bad.

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

JI7

(89,239 posts)
14. the US media sucks so bad, they are a huge reason this country is so backwards
Mon May 27, 2019, 07:18 PM
May 2019

and idiots like w Bush and trump have chance of becoming president.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
15. The assumption they make is Red Don's crimes have been socialized and "everybody" knows them. Its
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:20 PM
May 2019

... still lazy

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
16. Until Democrats make the argument that Trump should be impeached the media will talk about the
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:25 PM
May 2019

Democrat's strategy to impeach or not impeach. We need to make the case that Trump needs to be impeached and the media (not including Fox or right wing radio) will follow.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. You believe that?
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:48 PM
May 2019

The media's behavior has nothing to do with what the Democrats are or aren't doing.

The minute Democrats start impeachment, the media drumbeat will shift from "Why aren't the Democrats impeaching?" to "Are the Democrats going about impeachment correctly?" and, if he's not removed by the Senate, "Did the Democrats overplay their hand by impeaching so quickly?"

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
18. It's up to us to go on the offensive. As long as we remain passive and let the media direct our
Mon May 27, 2019, 10:01 PM
May 2019

course of action we will lose. We need to frame the narrative and not wait for the media to do so.

live love laugh

(13,074 posts)
20. Why wasn't impeachment ever talked about when
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:13 PM
May 2019

Republicans controlled Congress two whole years?

Democrats have been in office three months since February and suddenly the fate of the country’s in their hands.

live love laugh

(13,074 posts)
23. Who is the "we" that you refer to?
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:24 PM
May 2019

Republicans did zilch for two years and not once did the media call them out for it. Three months in after more ten years out of majority control and you believe it’s okay to be pressing for the Democrats to quickly resolve this?

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
24. We is Democrats, Republicans and all Americans. Remember when Mueller was appointed and why?
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:33 PM
May 2019

It would have made no sense to start impeachment proceedings while he was doing his report. The media asking about impeachment strategy makes sense given that the Democrats are conflicted on whether to impeach or not. Are you thinking if we were in power a few more years it would be OK? Maybe if Trump wins a second term we'll be ready to move forward on it? That is, if we keep control of the House.

live love laugh

(13,074 posts)
25. It's about taking any action at all-- at least Democrats
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:49 AM
May 2019

have held or scheduled hearings which again Republicans didn’t do despite blatant misdeeds by Trump.

Republicans squandered two whole years of opportunity to address corruption. Why should Democrats be the only ones taken to task in view of that?

Why doesn’t the media even mention the fact that Republicans had total authority to do anything they wanted and they did nothing for the American people and waited until the election to pass off the wall fiasco as if they could not have funded the project at any time?

All of this points to the obvious: Republicans and their media are all about political theater and too many still want to debate their contrivances as if they are authentic issues.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
31. Which Democrats told us to wait for the Mueller report because it would be the answer to Trump?
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:15 AM
May 2019

Do you have quotes?

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
26. It is a default way of enabling republicans - this is a LONG pattern
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:44 AM
May 2019

it normalizes the fact that the republican party has absolutely on concern for policy or good governance.

The sports like framing lends the GOP the benefit of a the state university status, having great loyalty toward it, and sanitizes their never ending fuck wittery.

At this point, the media today is that fucking stupid a lot don't get it, some do and eagerly play their roles as republican tools.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
29. Remember the Networks and Cable News are owned by
Tue May 28, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

the Corporate Mafia, that support Trump and Republicans...they got their huge tax cut bonus and its all show to keep Democrats watching..The scripts are written by Republican producers and yes there are exceptions like Rachel but her show is a huge amount of Revenue for the Corporate Cats.
If the Cable news covered the Impeachment reasoning they would lose revenue

.99center

(1,237 posts)
33. Do you have a link to any major US newspapers making the case for Trump's impeachment?
Tue May 28, 2019, 03:55 PM
May 2019

I couldn't find any. Though, I found a quite a few from the late 90's calling for Clinton to resign and be impeached for one count of obstruction.

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