Tue May 28, 2019, 04:33 AM
octoberlib (14,934 posts)
This is not okay. Airmen onboard the USS Wasp wearing patches with a likeness of TrumpLink to tweet Airmen onboard the USS WASP wearing patches on their jumpsuits that read “Make Aircrew Great Again.” The patches include an image in the center in the likeness of President Trump. ![]() Link to tweet This is a violation of Article 134 of the UCMJ. This can’t be tolerated! When I swore my oath in 1975 it was to my country, not to a potus, and nothing has changed. Wearing patches or insignia in fealty to President is no different than showing fealty to a dictator. @tedlieu Trump's visiting the USS Wasp today and the troops stationed in Japan.
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octoberlib | May 2019 | OP |
demtenjeep | May 2019 | #1 | |
octoberlib | May 2019 | #2 | |
pangaia | May 2019 | #25 | |
BlancheSplanchnik | May 2019 | #30 | |
Pacifist Patriot | May 2019 | #34 | |
dameatball | May 2019 | #53 | |
pangaia | May 2019 | #93 | |
dameatball | May 2019 | #95 | |
octoberlib | May 2019 | #57 | |
pangaia | May 2019 | #92 | |
octoberlib | May 2019 | #94 | |
SlogginThroughIt | May 2019 | #68 | |
lunatica | May 2019 | #77 | |
notdarkyet | May 2019 | #86 | |
Hortensis | May 2019 | #3 | |
rockfordfile | May 2019 | #5 | |
Scarsdale | May 2019 | #7 | |
Hortensis | May 2019 | #10 | |
Scarsdale | May 2019 | #11 | |
Hortensis | May 2019 | #19 | |
Raven123 | May 2019 | #20 | |
JHB | May 2019 | #22 | |
pnwmom | May 2019 | #23 | |
pangaia | May 2019 | #27 | |
Hortensis | May 2019 | #28 | |
procon | May 2019 | #40 | |
rwsanders | May 2019 | #62 | |
procon | May 2019 | #65 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | May 2019 | #84 | |
atreides1 | May 2019 | #35 | |
tazkcmo | May 2019 | #39 | |
shraby | May 2019 | #42 | |
Sapient Donkey | May 2019 | #43 | |
Hortensis | May 2019 | #90 | |
MFM008 | May 2019 | #18 | |
onetexan | May 2019 | #73 | |
yuiyoshida | May 2019 | #41 | |
Zoonart | May 2019 | #52 | |
yuiyoshida | May 2019 | #54 | |
Sgent | May 2019 | #89 | |
flotsam | May 2019 | #44 | |
Ferrets are Cool | May 2019 | #81 | |
Achilleaze | May 2019 | #4 | |
TheBlackAdder | May 2019 | #15 | |
Judi Lynn | May 2019 | #51 | |
MontanaMama | May 2019 | #6 | |
underpants | May 2019 | #9 | |
flotsam | May 2019 | #47 | |
Dorn | May 2019 | #8 | |
rzemanfl | May 2019 | #32 | |
watoos | May 2019 | #12 | |
CaptYossarian | May 2019 | #13 | |
Duppers | May 2019 | #29 | |
TheBlackAdder | May 2019 | #14 | |
Raven123 | May 2019 | #16 | |
Vinca | May 2019 | #17 | |
HopeAgain | May 2019 | #21 | |
dalton99a | May 2019 | #24 | |
pintobean | May 2019 | #71 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | May 2019 | #80 | |
djacq | May 2019 | #26 | |
Dan | May 2019 | #76 | |
Throckmorton | May 2019 | #31 | |
TheCowsCameHome | May 2019 | #33 | |
Honeycombe8 | May 2019 | #36 | |
lunasun | May 2019 | #38 | |
forgotmylogin | May 2019 | #37 | |
Crabby Appleton | May 2019 | #45 | |
area51 | May 2019 | #67 | |
inwiththenew | May 2019 | #46 | |
Baclava | May 2019 | #48 | |
Jake Stern | May 2019 | #49 | |
TheRealNorth | May 2019 | #55 | |
Grasswire2 | May 2019 | #50 | |
Ferrets are Cool | May 2019 | #83 | |
trev | May 2019 | #56 | |
Corgigal | May 2019 | #75 | |
msongs | May 2019 | #58 | |
Pepsidog | May 2019 | #59 | |
Pepsidog | May 2019 | #60 | |
Gothmog | May 2019 | #61 | |
Haggis for Breakfast | May 2019 | #82 | |
LiberalLovinLug | May 2019 | #63 | |
Progressive dog | May 2019 | #64 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #66 | |
RainCaster | May 2019 | #69 | |
Blue Owl | May 2019 | #70 | |
bluescribbler | May 2019 | #72 | |
SunSeeker | May 2019 | #74 | |
zentrum | May 2019 | #78 | |
magicarpet | May 2019 | #79 | |
TomSlick | May 2019 | #85 | |
octoberlib | May 2019 | #91 | |
Hulk | May 2019 | #87 | |
MasonDreams | May 2019 | #88 |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:37 AM
demtenjeep (31,997 posts)
1. this is wrong
but will anyone say anything?????????????
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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #1)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:39 AM
octoberlib (14,934 posts)
2. I sent this tweet to Dems on the Armed Services committee : Jackie Spiers, Seth Moulton, Ro Khanna
We'll see.
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Response to octoberlib (Reply #2)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:31 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
25. Are you fucking kidding me?
You are ok with this?
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Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:54 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (20,219 posts)
30. No, the point was to inform Dems who might say something
If I read the comments correctly.
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Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:18 AM
Pacifist Patriot (24,301 posts)
34. I'm not sure where you got the impression to poster was okay with it.
Clearly they're not as they chose to inform members of Congress who would understand the implications, are likely to be as outraged, and might be in a position to do something about it.
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Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:31 PM
dameatball (7,099 posts)
53. I think you misunderstood the intent. It happens sometimes.
Response to dameatball (Reply #53)
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:28 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
93. I somehow replied to the wrong post.
Response to pangaia (Reply #93)
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:33 AM
dameatball (7,099 posts)
95. I've done that too.
Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 01:11 PM
octoberlib (14,934 posts)
57. No. I'm making Dems on the Armed Services Committee aware that
aircrews are wearing Trump patches so they can make some inquiries and hopefully take action. Totally confused as to how this isn't clear.
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Response to octoberlib (Reply #57)
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:28 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
92. My many apol8gies. I meant to reply to Hortensis
who DOES seem to be ok with it..
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Response to pangaia (Reply #92)
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:31 AM
octoberlib (14,934 posts)
94. No problem, pangaia!
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Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:52 PM
SlogginThroughIt (1,977 posts)
68. ??????
uhhhh...
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Response to pangaia (Reply #25)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:08 PM
lunatica (53,408 posts)
77. What are you talking about?!
Where did you get that idea? It’s plain as day she is NOT OK WITH IT!
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Response to demtenjeep (Reply #1)
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:00 AM
notdarkyet (2,185 posts)
86. Trump is going to this ship tomorrow. I hope they all have gotten the message from angry.
Outraged comments,and reports to their commander, and we will see no patches when he stops by.
My sister was a Marine and voted for trump. She got very angry at this and won’t vote for him again. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:41 AM
Hortensis (55,017 posts)
3. Apparently wearing unofficial patches is pretty common,
so we shouldn't make too much of this. We may not like it, but The Donald really is POTUS. This patch isn't new either.
Link to tweet |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #3)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:50 AM
rockfordfile (8,578 posts)
5. Where did President Obama do this?
Response to rockfordfile (Reply #5)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:58 AM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
7. Instant impeachment for any
Democratic president who would dare do this. Are these patches "Made in China"? Who had this brilliant idea? I wonder if Ivanka owns the patent on these vile patches?
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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #7)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:23 AM
Hortensis (55,017 posts)
10. :) My argument was for NOT over-reacting.
Look at those faces. They don't think expression of support for a visiting American president is vile.
Yes, we're all nervous about the leaps fascism is making through the Republicans. But if the patches were for a Democratic president, I'm guessing the reaction would be very different, or nonexistent. One standard. ![]() |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:30 AM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
11. To quote
"our esteemed president" BULL SHIT. No Democratic president was EVER so self aggrandizing, nor would they be. This ass is SICK. He needs a long rest, and therapy.
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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #11)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:09 AM
Hortensis (55,017 posts)
19. Oh, did HE do this? Call me when
the Joint Chiefs are wearing them.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:10 AM
Raven123 (3,800 posts)
20. Support for POTUS ? IMO POTUS is suppose to support those in service.
We (as a former service member) salute the Commander in Chief. We did not carry his partisan political message. I don’t know but I hope you are wrong about how “we” would feel if the patches were partisan Democratic in nature.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:12 AM
JHB (36,108 posts)
22. There already IS one standard: It's inappropriate no matter who the president is.
Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:18 AM
pnwmom (107,307 posts)
23. They are supposed to support the OFFICE, not the particular incumbent. n/t
Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:33 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
27. Bullshit.
Look at those assholes ! These are the guys you will soon see with nazi/trump armbands beating Jews, blacks, middle easterners...
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:38 AM
Hortensis (55,017 posts)
28. :) I understand all this. Don't OVER-react to every
daily outrage, is all. Maybe triage them a bit, allocate more to the biggest ones, like the leap in the actual numbers of kidnapped, imprisoned and disappeared children.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #28)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:12 AM
procon (15,805 posts)
40. WTF! This isn't just a simple matter
of a bunch of good ole boys getting together in idolizing the leader of their preferred political party. I am appalled that their officers not only allowed a breakdown in order and disapline, but also created two opposing factions that will impact the teamwork of the whole ship.
Once the ship's officers either turned a blind eye or offered their tacit support for the rank and file troops to break the law, the whole ship is compromised. Shame on the lot of them, but especially the line officers and their captain for ever allowing partisan politics to infect their ship. I am left wondering where the loyalty of that crew and their officers would be if they were called upon to defend their country... or that President? |
Response to procon (Reply #40)
Tue May 28, 2019, 02:58 PM
rwsanders (2,383 posts)
62. That is the culture in the military right now, Fox news is broadcast openly
the idea that the republicans are "military friendly" is said again and again with no hint of irony.
And officers are some of the worst offenders. I've seen them post pictures of themselves during some of Trumps photo ops with the military and it isn't the posting that is the bad part, there are folks that think of our politicians as some sort of celebrity, rather than our employee (to me royalist who want a king in policy and reality); but the worst part is the idiotic grins like schoolgirl at a Bieber concert look. It is really nauseating that they have so little respect for themselves, their service, and their unit. I had to stop an officer at the same unit who was harassing a 3rd class petty officer because he was angry she was a liberal. I tried over the years to promote the idea that the Coast Guard needs civil rights training for the rights of the public, not for themselves, but I doubt it will ever happen. If you want more information and it is written much better than I can do check out some of this guys writings: https://www.truthdig.com/author/dsjursen/ |
Response to rwsanders (Reply #62)
Tue May 28, 2019, 03:38 PM
procon (15,805 posts)
65. Thanks!
It gives me nightmares to think that our military has lost sight of their splendid ideals and purpose of their oaths. How many times has we seen the respected officers in foreign militaries side with some peacock strutting, tinpot dictator and shove their own country over the brink into the arms of fascism ruled by a vainglorious tyrant?
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Response to procon (Reply #40)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:17 PM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
84. You nailed it, procon.
An air craft carrier is like a small floating city of 5000 or so. Discipline in the ranks is Rule #One. You NEVER break this rule. When you intentionally weaken even one link in the chain, you are sending a very powerful message.
And I'll tell you straight right now, anyone saying that criticism of this appalling lack of order is over-reacting, has NEVER served on a US NAVY ship, in peace time or combat. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:19 AM
atreides1 (15,764 posts)
35. Of course they don't think it's vile!
The majority of them appear to be white!
After all, neo-Nazis don't believe it's vile to wear Nazi flag patches, either!!! |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:12 AM
tazkcmo (7,089 posts)
39. I would raise hell.
Obama, FDR, JFK...I don't care.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:29 AM
shraby (21,946 posts)
42. No matter which president does it, Democratic or republican, it's wrong!
If they wear a patch at all, it should be a U.S. flag or an insignia of their unit.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:36 AM
Sapient Donkey (1,568 posts)
43. I agree with you on not overreacting over these patches
but I am not so sure about your statement of it being a non-issue if there were Obama patches. If that happened then it would be all over fox news and other right-wing outlets about the "obama zombies" or whatever it is they used to say. I remember them making a big deal over some kids in a classroom singing a song dedicated to Obama after he won.
We're not them, though, and I would prefer if we don't follow them down that path. That being said, if I was in charge that aircrew or any other group of people then I wouldn't want any of my people wearing anything that could be divisive and decrease effectiveness. That's whether it is Trump, Obama or anyone else. The whole keep politics out of the workplace should apply here. At the very least to keep stories like this from happening. |
Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #43)
Wed May 29, 2019, 05:25 AM
Hortensis (55,017 posts)
90. Oh, yes, Fox would present it as proof of a Democratic
liberal-socialist-commie-atheist plan for a military putsch. For the purpose of stoking fear and hostility among their idiots.
As you say, we're not them. I agree about political patches, of course. From what I've read, decisions on allowing "morale patches" is left to company officers, and no doubt most of them do also. Certainly, they have to be very aware of all the issues. In this case, with a president visiting, I have no idea how disallowing the patches would go over, but I do know a large majority of the nation expects the president to be received respectfully and without anything that could be perceived as insult. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #3)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:07 AM
MFM008 (19,692 posts)
18. Against military regulation.
NO politicking of any kind.
None. Zero. Zip. |
Response to MFM008 (Reply #18)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:22 PM
onetexan (11,631 posts)
73. agree, disciplinary action is called for
Response to Hortensis (Reply #3)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:16 AM
yuiyoshida (40,045 posts)
41. If I am correct this is not apart of the Uniform of the Day ...
Hence illegal for them to wear it.
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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #41)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:23 PM
Zoonart (9,810 posts)
52. Who proposed the patches? Who paid for them?...
Who ordered the wearing of them?
Any dissenters? This is very scary stuff. |
Response to Zoonart (Reply #52)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:35 PM
yuiyoshida (40,045 posts)
54. I don't think they can just have them made
someone as you said just did this, its NOT THE UNIFORM of the day...they would need to remove them unless the Captain or Admiral ordered it.
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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #41)
Wed May 29, 2019, 04:30 AM
Sgent (5,797 posts)
89. Officer's can/do
allow for unit patches and other similar alterations to the base uniform.
The overt political message (campaign slogan) is the problem, not wearing an unofficial patch. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #3)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:46 AM
flotsam (3,268 posts)
44. The problem is not that they are wearing an "unofficial" patch
The problem is the patch is both political and partisan-in the military it is verboten to play that game.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #3)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:07 PM
Ferrets are Cool (18,846 posts)
81. "Don't make too much of this?"
IF, as another poster states, this is a violation of department policy, it should be ended NOW. FUCKING NOW.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:49 AM
Achilleaze (15,475 posts)
4. The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is a fetish object
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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #4)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:02 AM
TheBlackAdder (25,706 posts)
15. They're probably made in Russia or China.
Response to Achilleaze (Reply #4)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:20 PM
Judi Lynn (155,202 posts)
51. "Fetid object" would also work. n/t
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:52 AM
MontanaMama (21,211 posts)
6. MF45 and company probably LOVE
that this is the crew of the WASP...white as white can be.
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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #6)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:18 AM
underpants (174,458 posts)
9. Yeah I was going to comment - the WASP?
How fitting.
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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #6)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:18 AM
flotsam (3,268 posts)
47. Uss Wasp CV18 and Her predecessor Uss Wasp CV7
Bore the brunt of the US naval aviation action in WW2. Any ship would be proud to have either of her namesakes record. CV7 was sunk by a submarine and CV18 was disabled by a japanese air attack in March 1945, returned to combat in July. CV18 served until decommissioned in 1972.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:00 AM
Dorn (463 posts)
8. The late great United States of America has jumped the shark
Response to Dorn (Reply #8)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:11 AM
rzemanfl (29,126 posts)
32. I have to decide whether I need to wash socks. BBL. n/t
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:30 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
12. Everything is going according to plan, have faith.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:53 AM
CaptYossarian (6,448 posts)
13. Is this from a parody site?
The WASP was the name of Ted Knight's boat that was christened in the movie "Caddyshack".
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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #13)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:45 AM
Duppers (25,824 posts)
29. Easy to google.
It's a real ship.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:01 AM
TheBlackAdder (25,706 posts)
14. Trash day on the USS Wasp? It makes those airmen look like trashmen or they should be thrown out.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:04 AM
Raven123 (3,800 posts)
16. Agree 100%. I do take it seriously
It has been a while, but when I was in service, NO unofficial modifications to the uniform were allowed. These are members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, or Navy of the USA NOT POTUS.
As for the commenter who suggests we shouldn’t take it seriously, i couldn’t disagree more. Time to find out who authorized political adornments to the uniforms purchased with my taxes. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:06 AM
Vinca (49,020 posts)
17. What irks me is the blind loyalty. Do these people read??????????????
Trump is no friend of theirs. He just axed 200,000 applications for VA medical care. He would send them into a war after a spontaneous hissy fit with no planning and no real reason. They're suckers. Mindless suckers. And it pains me to say that about our military.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:11 AM
HopeAgain (4,407 posts)
21. Huh! All white boys...
Coincidence?
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:20 AM
dalton99a (73,576 posts)
24. Navy guidance:
Defense Department regulations prohibit the military from endorsing or appearing to endorse any "political candidate, campaign, or cause." Display of the large flag was also unauthorized under Navy regulations governing display of flags and pennants, Maxwell has said.
In March 2016, ahead of the presidential election, the Navy published guidance reminding troops of existing regulations governing political activity. "Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating with the DoD, or any component or personnel of the department, with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this policy guidance will be avoided," the guidance stated. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/03/01/seals-punished-flying-trump-flag-highway.html |
Response to dalton99a (Reply #24)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:01 PM
pintobean (18,101 posts)
71. He's their commander in chief.
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Response to pintobean (Reply #71)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:04 PM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
80. It doesn't matter WHO is CinC.
This is in direct violation of the UCMJ. We who wear/wore the uniform are NOT fucking photo props. It is never appropriate to politicize the military.
During federal elections, we were NEVER allowed to wear any party affiliation on our uniforms. This is wrong on every level. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:31 AM
djacq (1,600 posts)
26. Article 106a of the UCMJ (revamped version)
[link:https://www.bileckilawgroup.com/court-martial-defense/articles-of-the-ucmj/article-106a-unauthorized-insignia|
The responsibility and accountability falls on the Captain of the USS Wasp. ![]() |
Response to djacq (Reply #26)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:54 PM
Dan (3,348 posts)
76. Yes, suspect that there will be a change in command
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:08 AM
Throckmorton (3,571 posts)
31. The warrior class is choosing his side
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:17 AM
TheCowsCameHome (40,047 posts)
33. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Pimping the Trump brand.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:30 AM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
36. This is an example of how duped Trumpers are. They know not what they do.
They don't even realize the gravity of what they do.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:33 AM
forgotmylogin (7,190 posts)
37. That's not Trump tho...
The likeness is too young and skinny and square-jawed.
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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #37)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:55 AM
Crabby Appleton (5,231 posts)
45. It's Troy Donahoue
The bastage
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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #37)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:50 PM
area51 (10,756 posts)
67. +1
Way too skinny to be Trump; why is it that his followers can't draw him properly and have to idealize him?
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:13 AM
inwiththenew (898 posts)
46. Just like the Navy SEALs from a couple years ago with Trump flag
I guess no one learned a lesson from that.
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Response to inwiththenew (Reply #46)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:28 AM
Baclava (11,487 posts)
48. They were given reprimands of some kind
SEALs Punished for Flying Trump Flag on Highway
![]() "Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating with the DoD, or any component or personnel of the department, with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this policy guidance will be avoided," the guidance stated. "It has been determined that those service members have violated the spirit and intent of applicable [Defense Department] regulations concerning the flying of flags and the apparent endorsement of political activities. Administrative corrective measures were taken with each individual based on their respective responsibility." https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/03/01/seals-punished-flying-trump-flag-highway.html |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
49. It's not simply about a patch. It's the message the photos of the patch wearers send.
Last edited Tue May 28, 2019, 06:31 PM - Edit history (1) Just take in that photo for a few moments. Not a damn one of them shows any reluctance. They're all beaming like they got laid for the first time.
It makes me wonder if the military would remain neutral if Trump loses in 2020 and claims fraud. |
Response to Jake Stern (Reply #49)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:35 PM
TheRealNorth (7,767 posts)
55. There are definitely some that are down with Trump's program
The question I have is how many of those who are not would be willing to stand up against it.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:19 PM
Grasswire2 (12,819 posts)
50. (at least they aren't flashing the white power hand sign)
I find this story outrageous.
Need to know where these patches came from. Who is sourcing them? |
Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #50)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:08 PM
Ferrets are Cool (18,846 posts)
83. May as well have been. nt
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:41 PM
trev (1,480 posts)
56. When I was in the Army in the 1990s
we were forbidden to wear anything on our uniforms outside of the mandated patches and awards. These airmen's behavior is disgusting and a violation of the military code.
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Response to trev (Reply #56)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:47 PM
Corgigal (9,280 posts)
75. When I was in the Air Force in the 1990s,
I couldn't attend any political meeting in my office blues, or fatigue greens. Could not wear the uniform at all.
I would have been written up so fast my head would spin. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 01:51 PM
msongs (65,202 posts)
58. one supposes patches are more convenient that white hoods nt
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Tue May 28, 2019, 02:12 PM
Pepsidog (5,977 posts)
59. Lemmings
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Tue May 28, 2019, 02:17 PM
Pepsidog (5,977 posts)
60. Trump would expose them to danger and death and could care less. Didn't the military learn that
Republicans could give a shit about them. The military buys into the Dems are weak bullshit meanwhile they are used as pawns by Republicans who dint give a shit about them. Bush and Rumsfeld sent them to war without adequate armor so that they came home in body bags or missing limbs. Fucken idiots.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 02:56 PM
Gothmog (124,245 posts)
61. These patches are wrong and these crewmen should be sanctioned
Response to Gothmog (Reply #61)
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:07 PM
Haggis for Breakfast (6,831 posts)
82. It's the Captain of the boat who should be sanctioned.
Everything that happens in on "his watch."
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 03:06 PM
LiberalLovinLug (13,571 posts)
63. America is sitting in a slowly warming caldrum
"Little" things like this, while Trump and Mitch are chipping away at other institutions all add up.
This normalization is already well under way. Every day that goes by without impeachment starting is even more entrenched normalization. Nancy and others somehow think they are operating in a 1980's reality, and that its not already a different world. Waiting for the 'right' time, as more and more pro-facist judges get appointed, and more civil rights reduced, might mean that the 'right' time never arrives. Its seeming more and more to be resembling that autocratic world that Pink Floyd was imagining on their Wall albums. ![]() |
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Tue May 28, 2019, 03:10 PM
Progressive dog (6,554 posts)
64. They are spitting on what the USA stands for
while smirking for the cameras.
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Tue May 28, 2019, 04:23 PM
Skittles (147,680 posts)
66. so they loves them some draft-dodging chicken hawk???
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!??!
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:54 PM
RainCaster (9,319 posts)
69. These morans worship Cadet BoneSpurs?
They are an embarrassment to all who served our country.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:56 PM
Blue Owl (43,519 posts)
70. The Junior Underachievement Patch
n/t
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:00 PM
bluescribbler (2,008 posts)
72. Richard Nixon was my Commander in Chief.
I never saw anyone wearing an patch depicting Nixon's image on his uniform. There were many shipmates who supported him, but they knew better than that.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:23 PM
SunSeeker (48,682 posts)
74. They might as well be wearing a swastika---same message. nt
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Tue May 28, 2019, 08:29 PM
zentrum (9,859 posts)
78. The Repugs and all MAGAS
.....are in fact and in intent building the conditions for a Trump dictatorship.
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:57 PM
magicarpet (12,859 posts)
79. Shouldn't they be wearing brown shirts,...
.... and have a swastika patch on their left shoulder too ?
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Tue May 28, 2019, 09:55 PM
TomSlick (10,208 posts)
85. Stars and Stripes article link follows:
[link:https://www.stripes.com/navy-looking-into-make-aircrew-great-again-patches-sailors-wore-during-trump-visit-1.583498|
This seems a rather clear violation to me - by the crew members if they did not have command approval for the "morale patch" and by the commander if they did have approval. |
Response to TomSlick (Reply #85)
Wed May 29, 2019, 05:51 AM
octoberlib (14,934 posts)
91. Thanks for this!
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:01 AM
Hulk (6,699 posts)
87. Nothing will happen
These ignorant butt holes are exactly why I don't parrot that empty phrase, "thank you for your service." Inevitably I'm thanking some clown that doesn't deserve it..like miss graham and his jag service. BFD
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Wed May 29, 2019, 04:07 AM
MasonDreams (751 posts)