Poor Oklahoma is just getting nailed again today

[leftyladyfrommo]

Those poor people. That whole state is under water.

[Shell_Seas]

1. North Texas is under tornado warning right now. Confirmed tornado in Denton.

[leftyladyfrommo]

7. Oh, no. Just went thru that last night. It gets

Exhausting. You just never know where those damn things are going to put down or where they are going to go. And the whole time those sirens are screeching.

[malaise]

2. Has their president even offered a word of sympathy? n/t

[IncaRoads]

4. He said some bullshit

He had to, we're one of his strong holds.

[leftyladyfrommo]

8. He hasn't ever mentioned Missouri. His idea of help

is a roll of paper towels.

[uponit7771]

27. +1

[KatyaR]

10. Oh, he called the governor

during a press conference. We got to see Stitt grinning and bobbing his head in agreement with Dear Leader. He looked like he was talking with his prom date.

Meanwhile, because Dear Leader is too busy getting his butt kissed to deal with the disaster, FEMA is only working with the state and not helping those who need help.

12 homes in Logan County have fallen into the Cimarron River. How many more will we lose?

[malaise]

15. Imagine losing your home in the blink of an eye

[Jake Stern]

13. Even I have a hard time extending sympathy

Spent a year living in Oklahoma and believe me whenever a wildfire ripped through California they would say "It's God's wrath for coddling queers and allowing abortion!"

Also these are the same folks who told me in so many words that we don't need to be concerned about climate change because Jesus is coming "any day now".

So fuck Oklahoma.

[malaise]

16. But not everyone there thinks like that

So I can't join you

[Jake Stern]

19. Not everybody in Alabama supports Ivey's whack-a-doodle abortion law

so I shouldn't boycott the state?

[malaise]

20. We can boycott a state over a horrific policy

but I can and will show some empathy for good people who lose their homes in a natural disaster

[cynatnite]

18. My sister and her family live in Oklahoma...

I apologize for my language towards you. It made me very angry when I read that. It's as if homes were destroyed, people hurt or killed, they deserved what they got because of how they may have voted. You are assuming that Oklahoma residents 100% voted for tRump and other repubs.

A lot of us live in red states, yet some like you continue to look down on red states as a whole and the people in them. You and others feel we deserve whatever we get when it comes to natural disasters because the majority voted repub.

I listened to a woman in a VA waiting room say that gawd cleaned out New Orleans using Katrina. So, yeah, it's not much different to me.

[MuseRider]

37. Al Franken

I went up to clean my barn and listened to his podcast with Sarah Silverman. Listen all the way to the end they speak of this. I think it would do people good to listen since so many respect either on or both of them. It was very good and was amazed to hear about this topic on compassion.

[ooky]

14. He is too pre-occupied with himself to think about people hurting in OK.

Thinking up fresh new lies to peddle about how Mueller has "found him innocent".

[DURHAM D]

3. Well, the best known climate denier is one of their Senators - Jim Inhofe.

Also, 4 of their 5 House members are Republicans and the other U.S. Senator is a Republican. Perhaps they should re-think their voting habits.

[IncaRoads]

5. Agreed, and also

Keep in mind that a lot of these assholes around here are the "WE DON'T NEED NO GUMMYMENT HELP" types. But as soon as the shit hits the fan?

"PLEASE SEND HELP!"

[leftyladyfrommo]

9. That's just the deplorables. There are lots of really

nice people in Oklahoma.

[Jake Stern]

17. Without fail the "I don't need no charity" types

are the first ones in line at the FEMA office with their hand out.

Saw a lot of that shit when I lived in Missouri and Oklahoma. Had a co-worker who would bitch about "socialism" and would rant about the big bad gubmint.

Guess who was on Facebook complaining about how slow FEMA was moving after the 2011 Joplin tornado turned her house into kindling?

[eleny]

6. When he got the word that his snowball melted he called it fake news

It's up to the people of Oklahoma to wake up. Meantime, my heart goes out to them for the terrible losses their ignorance brought them.

[cynatnite]

21. Tornadoes aren't brought on by ignorance and not every Oklahoman is ignorant, either. n/t

[eleny]

22. Who said that "every Oklahoman is ignorant"?

[cynatnite]

23. "people of Oklahoma" Your words...

"their ignorance" Your words.

BTW, tornadoes aren't brought on by ignorance.

[eleny]

28. Yes, "people" but not "all" people

I hope this helps you to understand my original meaning.

[cynatnite]

29. Your original meaning wasn't...

I do apologize. A lot of folks in this forum seem intent on blaming people because their homes get destroyed by an act of nature based on how they assume they voted. It's only by the virtue of living in a red state. Nothing else.

[eleny]

32. I've seen that here, too

It's just too sad how much people are losing. The tough thing is that people stick by their bad decision and then they suffer the consequences. I suppose people here get angry because we're all forced to suffer the consequences.

Every year I hope we can put off turning on the air conditioners until some time in June. But we always give in during May. Not this year. We haven't had them on at all and even turned the heat back on yesterday. And it snowed about a week ago. I've been living here west of Denver since 1976 and have only experienced snow in May while camping in the mountains. It's unnatural down here at the lower elevations and I worry about our native trees like the cottonwood. The cool, wet spring we're having feels eerie. The unknown is starting to get to me. What's happening south of us in Oklahoma can't be far behind us up here in some form or other.

Btw,

[cynatnite]

34. I'm not sure you understand...

How they voted doesn't mean people deserve whatever bad that comes their way. No one knows if these rash of tornadoes is a part of a normal weather pattern or attributed to global warming. I grew up with rashes of tornadoes like this in Oklahoma.

My AC came on last month in April. We're having 90 degree weather and no, I'm not going to languish in an oven of a house either.

[eleny]

36. They don't deserve the consequences - I hope they wake up to the issues

The implication being that they then would get rid of a guy like Inhoff who was the subject of the OP.

The news out of Oklahoma, according to the OP, is that the state is under water. That's probably not literal. But what's happening is unnatural for the area. We get hail here every year here in Denver metro and we can fairly predict several hail storms. But at some point it could be happening so frequently that we'd start examining why. It feels like Oklahoma could be at the point where these current weather events are far out of the expected life threatening experiences and warrant investigation about why they're occurring with such frequency and severity.

I'd feel better about things if I was weighing if it was time to turn on the ac than if we should turn the heat back on. I'm worried about the flora and fauna. Due to our climate changing we're now starting to get the beetles that attack roses. I never believed I'd see that here in the Denver area. That's just one very tiny example of things changing for the worse. But the origins probably go to the flabbiness of the jet stream caused by the melting of the polar ice cap. That being the same reason Oklahoma is experiencing much fiercer weather. We need the conservative states to reach a tipping point in their thinking or humanity won't make it much further.

I figure that I'm done. Please take the last word if you wish. I need to go start supper. Be well and thanks for the conversation. I truly appreciate getting things straight with you since I've respected your opinion on issues for years.

[Wellstone ruled]

11. Bingo!!!!!!

[sinkingfeeling]

12. I'm in Arkansas and my do nothing Rep., Womack, was on TV yesterday

evening talking how he would get IQ45 to send immediate FEMA help. I was yelling at the TV he'd better get his dumbass GOP friends to stop blocking the funding bill.

[backtoblue]

30. Hes going to be in my little town soon...

I've got a list of questions to ask, do you care PMing me with some good ones?


The river here is the highest I've ever seen. The Dardanelle Dam is just about even on both sides and it's starting to rain...

Stay safe everyone!

[sinkingfeeling]

35. I don't mind, but there's nothing much to ask other than about impeachment and

the war on women's rights. A couple of years ago I got applause from the crowd and made him angry. I asked him why he was all about corporations not being able to afford environmental regulations and not concerned about the cost to living things of pollution.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. It is still flooding in my neck of the woods.

However, the roads are mainly above water though most of the town, but if this rain doesn't stop...

Gay pride is this weekend in Tulsa, should be interesting.

[MuseRider]

33. Are you OK where you are?

There are several DUers that I know in and around Tulsa and I have been keeping up with one of them. I hope you get to do Pride and that it works for most people to be able to get there. I think this weekend is supposed to be bad again? I hope not.

[Behind the Aegis]

38. We are north of Tulsa.

It was strange driving around. It reminded me of when I was in NOLA because many of the streets had large fields which were now underwater and lapping at the side of the road. Thankfully, it has stopped raining. My 4 chihuahuas are not impressed!

I hope this weekend is nice, but it is unclear if the weather will cooperate or not.

[MuseRider]

39. I will be sending my best wishes

that you have a cool and dry weekend of Pride! Enjoy it. I love Pride, have not been to a celebration in a while but have always enjoyed the fun and meaningful feeling you get being a part of something that important.

[Behind the Aegis]

40. Thanks!

My husband and I skipped the last few years because the forecast always called for oppressively hot and humid weather, then it turned out to be gorgeous, so we decided to risk it this year, so it will likely hot and humid as hell! LOL! The fact that is Stonewall 50th (and I turned 50 last Friday), I felt it was important to be there, and I am showing off my new shirt which is a rainbow Jewish star with the word "love" written in Hebrew,

[MuseRider]

25. It has been hard all around here

but they are really getting it there.

Are we certain we are on the right site? I see a lot of people here talking about letting people hurt because of the way they vote. Us too? Our friends and neighbors too? I am beginning to wonder about some people around here. I thought we were compassionate and not so selective as to not help those in need or to provide compassion to others even if they do not do the same. Boy THAT is going to help a lot of things. Way to not be them.

I hope we get a rest, I think I just posted to you in another thread. It has been a long few weeks hasn't it? It won't be over for some time with all this water around. I hope you are OK. Last night was terrifying and we need a rest but apparently only for some of us.

[cynatnite]

26. Some are acting like the RW did when Katrina happened. Disgusting. n/t

[MuseRider]

31. It certainly sounds familiar.

During the Brownback administration we heard a lot of that here in Kansas but even Brownback, as horrible as he is, was more compassionate than what I am seeing here. Must be nice to live in a pure blue, everyone is just like you place so that you deserve help when you need it. It almost sounds like....nevermind. Not a fan of the Bible but I do believe we help each other and if we don't we are the problem not the solution.