Robert Mueller appreciation thread.

[Amaryllis]

Whatever you may think about everything he's done and may wish he'd done differently, I believe he has always acted with the greatest integrity and with the intent of serving the best interests of the country. He has been in a very difficult position. He looked weary to me today when he was speaking. It's been a long and very intense road he's travelled.

And what he did today took a great deal of courage; essentially challenging the AG. I also believe he is strategically brilliant.

And this was extremely important, especially given Congressional Rs obstruction on doing anything about election attacks: "I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments — that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. That allegation deserves the attention of every American." This puts it in the face of the entire country. He made it clear it was vastly more than "meddling."

[empedocles]

1. A good Special Counsel, who did very important work, and history at least, may judge him well.

[uponit7771]

2. Not now for me, I'll be the first to start a thread if he talks to congress and answers their ...

... questions.

Today Mueller said he wasn't going to talk to congress

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644237/robert-mueller-remarks-transcript

And the report is my testimony. I would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress.

Right now he's left tons on the table, calling Barr a liar and repeating what his report says is low hanging fruit.

[Progressive Jones]

22. If he is subpoenaed by the House he will comment.

Mueller is leaving the DOJ. He will no longer be under Barr's control.

[uponit7771]

23. We agree, Mueller's comments will be "I'm not going to talk about that" and then dare congress

... to do something.

I'm taking Mueller at his word

[zentrum]

57. Ditto.

[emmaverybo]

3. Thank you. I am biting my tongue and my pen. We will see in retrospect that Mueller and his

team handed us an essential tool to take back our country—the Mueller report. Now it is up to us.

[StarfishSaver]

13. Apparently, it's not up to us

According to some here, it's all up to Pelosi and Mueller.

I assumed DU was populated by savvy, politically engaged people. Now I wonder, given the number of people who keep insisting that Pelosi and Mueller must do everything and that we have no role in any of this at all.

[emmaverybo]

18. The angry accusing voices, the ones who shout unfair and double down, gain the stage, while

those more deliberate and thoughtful tend to hang back.
Screaming F Mueller, Pelosi, Nadler, all the do-nothings, seems to provide enough of a vent to protect the authentic do-nothing’s from further constructive actions, even on behalf of the cause they claim to espouse.
Given a roadmap, they throw it away, blindly bumbling on the path they scorch before them.
They say they are sick and tired, furious, constantly disappointed.
What gets me is that this attitude feeds upon itself, and leads to nothing productive at the same time that it affords real foes weapons.
Ah, they know not what they do.

[stillcool]

56. they're everywhere...

No place is sacred on these internets. I think of the kids in grade school when I read the crap people write. Somewhere along the way, I got this crazy empathy for my fellow human beings. Reminding myself we are all the same..what is apparent in one is inherent in all. There but for the grace of god... Eff that sh*t. Now it's 3rd grade all the way.

[Judi Lynn]

4. He knew what he was doing, he's serious about his work, I trust him. n/t

[Hekate]

5. KnR

[dem4decades]

6. Mueller punted. I'm a fan of those that actually take the ball over the goal line.

[emmaverybo]

19. What are you doing to move the ball forward? I mean this question sincerely. nt

[dem4decades]

31. That's funny. Mueller had the ball, punted it and then said no questions. I did not and never will

have the ball. Here's what I will do, I'll contact my representatives and demand they bring Mueller to testify as to whether Barr misrepresented his (Mueller's) decision whether or not Trump had committed a crime.

[emmaverybo]

33. Well, obviously Barr misrepresented the report and no, Mueller did not find sufficient

evidence of conspiracy. But great, I hope he testifies.

[tymorial]

52. What you meant to say is that you are a fan of violating regulations

Ignoring the law and doing as you see fit.

[Blues Heron]

7. we need to get him under oath

and he's got to answer every question put to him.

[emmaverybo]

27. Beat him with rubber hoses or phone books maybe? nt

[Historic NY]

8. Too bad they did away with an Independant Counsel, the result might have been different.

[alittlelark]

9. A brilliant, brave, and private man

[Mme. Defarge]

10. He has my gratitude and deepest respect.

Thank you for your post.

[emmaverybo]

20. Second your emotion. nt

[backtoblue]

29. +2

[Hoyt]

11. He let trump off collusion/conspiracy -- the most important aspect of the investigation.

To the extent he challenged the AG, it was a minor aspect of this whole matter. In fact, Barr explicitly said in the 3/24/2019 Summary that Mueller could not make a determination on Obstruction because of policy. Barr even quoted Mueller saying by saying Mueller's finding could not exonerate trump. Barr did seem to say something different at a hearing, but I think some of that was a misunderstanding/confusion over the question. Barr shows some signs of declining mental capacity, and is very careful parsing words.

Mueller also said Barr didn't tell him to speak today, and that by releasing the full report -- with required redactions --Barr even went further than Mueller requested when they talked in March. Mueller then used the term respect for Barr in his comments. Mueller did not say Barr or Rosenstein told him to wrap it up, my assumption is that did not happen. If it did, and Mueller didn't say anything, he wimped out again.

Today he said nothing that was not in his report, and he told Congress he wasn't going to say anything but what was in the report no matter if they called him and asked him other questions.

Again, by not pursuing more evidence on collusion/conspiracy -- including interviewing trump's kids -- and maybe stepping outside the boundaries by looking at trump finances, emoluments while in office, wimped out and that will likely allow trump to walk.


All this praise for Mueller is starting to remind me of all those who got mad whenever someone said Avenatti was not Presidential material.

[watoos]

35. You are basing everything on a redacted report

that was released by Barr. We have yet to see the entire report. We have yet to see the grand jury testimony. We have yet to see the counterintelligence investigation done by the FBI.

Comparing Mueller to Avenatti is a low blow.

[Hoyt]

44. You are basing everything on your hopes. I learned my lesson with Fitzgerald.

I wish trump had been removed from office. But, that will only happen if we vote him out.

[Kid Berwyn]

12. History is on his side.

As is Justice.

Mueller pegged Trump for the traitor he is, a puppet with strings leading to a Vladimir Putin.

It’s now up to Congress to do its part.

[StarfishSaver]

14. History will be much kinder to him than we are

[emmaverybo]

21. Your comment goes through me like a prescient voice. nt

[ancianita]

40. Indeed, it will.

[pnwmom]

15. Thank you, Robert Swan Mueller. This wasn't the way you meant to spend part of your seventies. n/t

[samnsara]

16. he never promised us anything..he did his job now we need to do ours

[TNNurse]

17. Mueller is an ethical man

He followed the rules and did what he could legally.

The problem is that he was investigating people who are not ethical, are corrupt and have clearly committed crimes.

There is an old saying about virtue being its only reward. This certainly applies to Mueller.

[Progressive Jones]

24. At the end of the day, Mueller is still a fucking Republican. nt

[emmaverybo]

25. Maybe a few of the 17 Angry Democrats he led will find it in their less sullied souls

to speak out against Mueller’s partisan leadership. (Sarcasm dripping).

[watoos]

36. Good 1.

[lunatica]

43. This is an appreciation thread

[Jack-o-Lantern]

26. Mueller?.. Meh, Fitzmas again.

[lunatica]

42. You're in the wrong thread

This one is an appreciation thread for Mueller.

[Nitram]

28. I appreciate Robert Mueller. He is principled, he is a patriot, he is a mensch.

[Cetacea]

30. It's not his fault that nobody has read the book

And to quote myself and Eric Swalwell, now its's time to see the movie.

Team Trump has had two years to make the rounds on TV shows, deflecting and defaming Mueller and the investigation. Barr put the icing on the cake.
Nixon's approval rating was 67 percent before the public hearings. They sunk to low 20s during them.

[ancianita]

32. Robert Mueller, III, is one brilliant patriot among patriots! By ALL DU standards! I am grateful

for the hard two years of investigative planning, execution and team coordination he's done to preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States.

HE deserves the attention of every American!

I will never forget the Last Witch Hunter.

[emmaverybo]

38. Just wow! nt

[Karadeniz]

34. Good job, Bob. You should consider a career in this!

[watoos]

37. Mueller changed the Barr/Trump narrative

it's up to Democrats to keep it going.

[emmaverybo]

39. Nailed it. nt

[lunatica]

41. I pretty much heard him say Trump is guilty

It’s the same as saying he is not not guilty. Same thing.

[highplainsdem]

45. K&R. Mueller deserves our respect and gratitude.

[ZZenith]

46. I appreciate him.

So many people here simply have no idea how difficult his task was, and they don’t seem to realize how hamstrung he was by his “superiors.”

In my fantasy, Bob Mueller marches into Bill Barr’s office tomorrow and does to him what he used to do to the Viet Cong and then he marches over to Pennsylvania Avenue to do the same, but that’s not how he operates and it appears that he’s not yet succumbed to the cynicism that’s so much in vogue lately. He still believes in following protocol, and in the past it has served him well to bring in some of the worst crooks our country’s ever produced.

He laid out what he was allowed to lay out by his corrupt bosses, and every sentient American is now fully aware of the criminality that infests the White House. He’s left no question that he’d have personally locked Trump in a cage and thrown away the key if he’d been allowed to.

Your move, Nancy.

[NanceGreggs]

47. Well said.

[MFGsunny]

48. K & R ... + 1,000,000 :: Much obliged, sir! and SEMPER FI. n/t

[mia]

49. ... "a true never trumper", according to Subject #1

Robert Mueller stands for everything that Trump is not.

[Always Randy]

50. no deviation from past performance---and a perfect record

I can't find anything in Robert Mueller's history that says he would shirk his responsibilities as a professional. My experience with people like Robert Mueller is that they are consummate professionals and really don't care about their critics. They are focussed on their task and are not looking for the glamour of the limelight. The fact that he is a registered Republican has no bearing on his work and that is evident in his past performance of prosecutions regardless of affiliation.

[stonecutter357]

51. Mueller is one of them .... A RWNJ!

[Maru Kitteh]

54. DERP! 'Cause there's so many RWNJ's lined up to give press conferences pressuring congress

to move forward with impeachment.

[stonecutter357]

58. Mueller is a Republican , no DERP to it at all ..

[CentralMass]

53. I can't get on this bandwagon.

While Mueller may very well be a principled man with integrity, a two year investigation yielded a 400 page report that avoided making an statements that criminal and or impeachable crimes took place. He has also said that he is done talking about it, when other then his brief statement he has not talked about it.

The investigation cost the American taxpayer some serious coin and letting a vague outcome lend itself to aiding in sweeping this affair under the rug is unacceptable.. Our governnent and its mechanisms that are meant to orevent the abuse of power are broken. Someone in the food chain needs to stand up and do the right thing.

[stillcool]

55. he has my appreciation...

although I still haven't finished the book. Comparing apples to apples...or humans to humans, I doubt there are many on the planet that could do the job as well. And, I don't even know what it has spawned yet. How many cases are still out there? How many investigations have been opened, and about what? People expect from others, what they never would consider expecting from themselves. I wonder if that's a human-thing, or an American-thing.

[LiberalLovinLug]

59. Mueller is a coward

He used lawyer language, and obfuscation to cloud the conclusions. In an attempt to have others make the hard decisions. He was a coward, in a way also, to not go full Trump humper, and shit on the law, sell his soul, and come out with a complete exoneration. That would take another kind of balls. But it is also cowardly to do the opposite, and purposely make statements afterwards that would be able to be taken any way the interpreter wanted. One side can say NO COLLUSION - NO OBSTRUCTION1 because there were no indictments. The other can say that Mueller didn't NOT say he was guilty.

Kicking the ball up the road for some other stooge to take the fall. At least he'll not be the Republican that breaks Ronnie's 11th commandment. That was his main concern.