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We watched Spike Lee's documentary again last night - stay safe NOLA DUers.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)all will go well.
edhopper
(33,556 posts)with a massive amount of rain. It's not about the winds.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Couldn't resist.
Seriously NOLA, be safe out there..................
nolabear
(41,959 posts)They have been reinforced and believe me, every inch has been examined, or so it's been reported. And last time another factor was the inadequate pumping stations and the panicked employees who ran for it rather than stay and keep them running. That's all in much better shape.
Hopefully it'll be a Cat2 at the most. New Orleans East is outside the levee system and is really low but with Katrina, that area blew away as much as flooded. It may see some damage.
Hurricanes are dangerous. But I think people are mighty sober after Katrina and there's more caution and less stupid. Some hurricane parties from that one ended in disaster.
malaise
(268,885 posts)We'll see.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)last week, was telling me...that many contractors were brought in to rebuild the city, and very little local labor was used...
His birthday is also on the anniversary of Katrina, however he no longer celebrates as he lost his mother,father and sister in Katrina..
malaise
(268,885 posts)MzShellG
(1,047 posts)So consider these factors: It will be over NOLA much longer. 12-18hrs after pretty much making landfall there. The winds will also affect NOLA much longer albeit weaker, but nearly 24hrs of rain will be a major issue. My prayers are with them.
malaise
(268,885 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I work a little bit with levees. The problem was not the structural integrity of the levees, the problem was with their height. When a levee overflows, the water starts to cascade off the levee and hit the bottom of the levee. It starts to erode the bottom away, and then the levee fails. Since Katrina, they have been made significantly taller.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)you forgot about the reports on the New Orleans levee being stuffed with newspaper? There was so much corruption surrounding the New Orleans levee system, ( I know because I lived there for many years), one can only HOPE they've cleaned that fucking mess up and got serious about protecting New Orleans residents.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)not levees. Two completely different things.
spanone
(135,816 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)Still this is worrying because this is a Cat1 hurricane.
More squalls on the way.
Looks like more folks without power than with power in NOLA.
http://www.wwltv.com/live-stream/exempt
valerief
(53,235 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)My worry is the forecast of 17 inches of rain - this is a slow moving storm.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)And that's a good thing!!
malaise
(268,885 posts)Check the pressure - 976
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)Eye has finally formed.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)The Lake Bourne Surge barrier...it wasn't there in 2005 and should prevent a large surge heading up the MRGO canal that destroyed the lower 9th.
Katrina was a hard-earned lesson and billions have been spend on the canals, pumping system and this barrier...here's hoping that Isaac moves quickly and remains a weak storm...
malaise
(268,885 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)This will be a hurricane at landfall
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I hope all the new levees hold up.
Stay safe everybody.
malaise
(268,885 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)did not hold. People are in their attics.
The president of that parish was just on Good Morning America. There is already extensive damage, and 17-24 hours of this hurricane yet to go.
malaise
(268,885 posts)Serious problems
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/29/hurricane-isaac-louisiana-levee-flood
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Low-lying areas in south-east Louisiana faced serious flooding on Wednesday as Hurricane Isaac began to slowly move inland and towards New Orleans.
After making landfall on Tuesday night in extreme south-eastern Louisiana, Isaac remained stationary for several hours, unleashing 80mph winds on a sparsely populated neck of land that stretches into the Gulf of Mexico. Early on Wednesday it started moving towards New Orleans at around eight miles an hour exactly seven years after the city was devastated by Hurricane Katrina.
Floodwater has already lapped over an 18-mile (29km) stretch of the levee along the Mississippi river in Plaquemines Parish, south-east of the city, threatening serious flooding.
There were reports of four-to-nine feet of water in the streets, houses flooded and perilous attempts to flee. Sheriffs' deputies made house-to-house visits looking for residents who had remained after an evacuation order.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)rescuing people right now.