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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:43 PM May 2019

Trump supporter admits she was 'surprised' to learn Mueller's report didn't actually exonerate the p

Trump supporter admits she was ‘surprised’ to learn Mueller’s report didn’t actually exonerate the president
By Brad Reed - May 30, 2019

A supporter of President Donald Trump admitted this week she was “surprised” to learn that special counsel Robert Mueller’s report did not exonerate the president.

In an interview with NBC News, Michigan Trump voter Cathy Garnaat said that she went to Rep. Justin Amash’s (R-MI) town hall this week to challenge his view that Trump should be impeached — and she got caught off guard when he directly quoted from the Mueller report to justify his views.

“I was surprised to hear there was anything negative in the Mueller report at all about President Trump,” she admitted. “I hadn’t heard that before.”

Garnaat went on to explain that none of the news shows she watches or listens to have ever gone into depth about the contents of the Mueller report.

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Trump supporter admits she was 'surprised' to learn Mueller's report didn't actually exonerate the p (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2019 OP
Whih is why Mueller speaking was important malaise May 2019 #1
Not really... brooklynite May 2019 #8
I was not thinking about her - she heard at a town hall malaise May 2019 #11
I doubt that anyone who gets all of their news from Fox is going to give much creedence to StarfishSaver May 2019 #16
they never hear rw radio challenged or barely ever mentioned. that's why they believe certainot May 2019 #26
This had nothing to do with Mueller speaking StarfishSaver May 2019 #15
They live in the Fox Brietbart bubble. redstatebluegirl May 2019 #2
exactly! SCantiGOP May 2019 #17
But she'll vote for him again for sure awesomerwb1 May 2019 #3
or as I like to say... Javaman May 2019 #6
Once Trumpy, Fox, and minions kick up enough dirt Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #20
She only goes for 'fair and balanced' news sources for enlightenment gohuskies May 2019 #4
"Garnaat went on to explain that none of the news shows she watches or listens to"... Javaman May 2019 #5
might just be Fox SCantiGOP May 2019 #19
Rush was at his height during the Clinton years Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #21
internet is too appealing as opposed to radio SCantiGOP May 2019 #24
Good point Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #29
These are the people we need to reach gratuitous May 2019 #7
"These are the people we need to reach" Different Drummer May 2019 #13
I'm going to agree with gratuitous here SCantiGOP May 2019 #22
Many of them may not be reachable gratuitous May 2019 #23
Another good reason to start impeachment proceedings. They will get a lot Maraya1969 May 2019 #9
Exactly my thought. THIS is why you impeach, and use the word IMPEACH. coti May 2019 #10
There's none so blind that will not see. Chin music May 2019 #12
Wake the hell up you moran! Chakaconcarne May 2019 #14
Multiply her misinformed views x millions procon May 2019 #18
The ONLY way this poor woman learned the truth Silver Gaia May 2019 #25
Yet Trump Approval Ratings HopeAgain May 2019 #27
They wont, relative speaking they're horrible and that's with a 15 - 25% FAUX News float. uponit7771 May 2019 #37
There's a lot more where that came from, honey Blue Owl May 2019 #28
Ignorance is a choice. C_U_L8R May 2019 #30
I guess they only listen to Fox and each other. ananda May 2019 #31
Stupid is a choice, ignorance can be circumstance... N/T jimmil May 2019 #32
Willfull stupidity will be the end of America. mountain grammy May 2019 #33
If you want to understand female trump supporters maryellen99 May 2019 #34
There is a fundamental statement being made here that we need to understand and solve. Gore1FL May 2019 #35
Read it yourself, don't take someone else's word for it. blueinredohio May 2019 #36
"It's easier to fool people The Wizard May 2019 #38
more proof they are dumber than dirt Skittles May 2019 #39
But she will still vote for him again fescuerescue May 2019 #40

malaise

(268,957 posts)
11. I was not thinking about her - she heard at a town hall
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:59 PM
May 2019

I was thinking of all the persons who saw what he said on the news last night

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. I doubt that anyone who gets all of their news from Fox is going to give much creedence to
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:16 PM
May 2019

anything they hear Mueller say

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
26. they never hear rw radio challenged or barely ever mentioned. that's why they believe
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:57 PM
May 2019

this shit. limbaugh has led 1500 radio stations building the case for the "deep state coup", probably with help from the kremlin. once in while he gets hit back for something racist or misogynist but the attacks on dems like AOC or michael mann (climate) generate death threats and their supporters have no clue don't get their backs. the threats on aoc are heavy now and limbauigh made up a silly pretext that dem leadership would get rid of her to be able to say dems would "take her out", repeating that phrase on 600 radio stations, and now she's getting heavy death threats.

and dems nor media don't even poll for talk radio even though it's the main reason we're in this mess

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
15. This had nothing to do with Mueller speaking
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019

She got this from her congressman who told her about the report before Mueller said a word in public..

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
17. exactly!
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:17 PM
May 2019

she said none of the news outlets she watched had reported it. Not hard to figure out what is the ONLY news outlet she watches.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
20. Once Trumpy, Fox, and minions kick up enough dirt
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:28 PM
May 2019

She'll (probably) be so stirred up the next thing that they tell her to be mad at Democrats about, she'll turn around and vote for Trump again.

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
4. She only goes for 'fair and balanced' news sources for enlightenment
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:46 PM
May 2019

Proves that these Trumpanistas are truly low information members of the electorate. Talk about ostriches...

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
5. "Garnaat went on to explain that none of the news shows she watches or listens to"...
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:50 PM
May 2019

blah blah blah.

she watches fux and listens to limpballs.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
19. might just be Fox
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:22 PM
May 2019

I don't think many people listed to Rush anymore.
There was a small article on a local TV station website about a restaurant that had half of their space dedicated as a "Rush Room" so blue collar lunch patrons and old folks could listen to Rush during lunch. They checked and found out it had been abandoned years ago. When asked what prompted them to end the practice, which they had started during the Clinton presidency, the owner said it was simply lack of interest. He said fewer and fewer people wanted to listen, and he was getting more people that complained about it.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
21. Rush was at his height during the Clinton years
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:32 PM
May 2019

I don't think as many people have paid attention to him much since then (and it was probably hard to find things to rant about with Bush Jr. and Cheney as POTUS). Plus, he's lost advertisers over the years, esp. when he went on that crazy jag about Sandra Fluke and birth control coverage a few years ago.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
24. internet is too appealing as opposed to radio
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:46 PM
May 2019

Instead of shouting into the air "Ditto, Rush!" you can go to the comments on a web site and say, "Yes, I am also a sick, racist asshole."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. These are the people we need to reach
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:55 PM
May 2019

Notice I did NOT say "reach out to." Hold town halls and rallies, get information in front of people that isn't filtered by Fox or hate radio. Yeah, it's fun hosting a big ol' rally in a friendly venue, but for every one of those, Democrats should be holding two or three rallies in hostile territory.

Different Drummer

(7,614 posts)
13. "These are the people we need to reach"
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:07 PM
May 2019

I hate to sound a discouraging note, but it might not be possible to reach them if the right-wing media has terminally brainwashed them.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
22. I'm going to agree with gratuitous here
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:32 PM
May 2019

I watched an episode of "1969" the other night (it's an ABC docu-series of several shows about that pivotal year in America) on The FBI and the Black Panthers. Their founder, Fred Hampton, required the early members of the Panthers to attend church services in their neighborhoods. He said the mainly older and conservative folks in the pews were naturally resistant to their calls for resistance to the police and use of violence if necessary to protect themselves, and they needed to see who the Panthers were and hear about their outreach programs in the communities. Most churches became very supportive, especially of things like the before school breakfast programs, and it went a long way towards bringing the general population around to supporting the Panthers.

I think there is a parallel here to engaging the brainwashed masses by telling them what the Left supports, such as feeding the hungry and taking care of the poor. Put Progressive programs in that light and most people will have a hard time falling for the "socialism is going to be the downfall of the USA" line that the right has been pushing for years.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Many of them may not be reachable
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:43 PM
May 2019

But Democrats don't have to pick up every last Trump dead-ender. If we peel off a few percentage points of support in the "safe" areas, we can do mighty things. Republican strategists might notice a drop in Trump's approval ratings from 78% to 75% in one of those areas, but will they recognize it for what it is? Will they be able to persuade Trump that there's something significant going on here besides a within-the-margin-of-error float? If they have to spend time and money shoring up those safe areas, that's less of each of those commodities to be spent in true battleground areas.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
9. Another good reason to start impeachment proceedings. They will get a lot
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:57 PM
May 2019

of TV coverage, much more than we have had so far.

coti

(4,612 posts)
10. Exactly my thought. THIS is why you impeach, and use the word IMPEACH.
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:58 PM
May 2019

To gain the extra attention and get people to actually listen.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
12. There's none so blind that will not see.
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:03 PM
May 2019

Sorry, but, anyone who didn't know that is wilfully ignoring the obvious. This 'surprise epiphany' is the easy way out, for people who just liked being a thorn in everyones side. Either that, or something trump did has started to effect their pocketbook. Grocery bill going up? Sounds like to me.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. Multiply her misinformed views x millions
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:21 PM
May 2019

of other brainwashed Foxnonsense viewers. There's an old adage that says the truth shall set them free, but how do you get a disinterested American public, let alone rightwing media addicts, to hear it.

To start, begin an impeachment inquiry. That doesn't mean we're going to impeach Trump immediately, but we have an obligation to bring out the evidence and follow the facts to uncover the truth. That information will ever penetrate the Fox noise filters and people will see for themselves what treachery Trump has done in their name.

Impeachment is the only way to restore the dignity and solemn gravitas of the presidency. Impeachment is the only way to reclaim the First Amendment powers of the Congress as the Constitutional deterent to a lawless president, and stop the executive's overreach and abuse of power.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
25. The ONLY way this poor woman learned the truth
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:47 PM
May 2019

was by going to a town hall held by her REPUBLICAN Congressman, someone she trusted.

We are not going to enlighten others like her by holding town halls with Democrats. They won't attend, and if they do, they will simply see it as lies.

It also isn't going to matter if there are televised impeachment hearings because IF they see them, it will be on FOX News, and their views will be tempered by the FOX commentators.

Her viewpoint was changed because someone she already knew and trusted took the time to explain it in a public forum. That was something rare.

So, I don't think we are going to reach them UNLESS more Republicans start doing what Amash is doing (which impeachment hearings might help with, but it's still a long shot) and/or FOX News changes it's tune (unlikely unless hell freezes over).

They are only going to accept the truth AS the truth when presented to them by someone they see as one of their own and trust to be telling them the truth. WE can't make this happen, but we can work to create the conditions where it could happen, and hope it does.

I have to agree that it was encouraging to see that the bubble CAN be broken, the scales CAN fall from their eyes.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
34. If you want to understand female trump supporters
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:47 PM
May 2019

Listen to the podcast “Dirty John”. They are like the female protagonist who gets played and due to her stupidity almost gets her adult daughter kidnapped and murdered. They are also the ones who get catfished by foreign men online.

Gore1FL

(21,129 posts)
35. There is a fundamental statement being made here that we need to understand and solve.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:29 PM
May 2019

She was surprised to learn. She hadn't heard about it before.

I submit, she is a probably an OK person with a lot on her plate. She doesn't have time to prioritize political research. She believes sources that SHOULD be reliable are reliable. She has no immediate reason to doubt it. She hears things, they get filed away. The world turns and life happens.

News SHOULD be reliable.
The U.S. Attorney General SHOULD be reliable.
The President of the United States SHOULD be reliable.
The President's Press Secretary SHOULD be reliable.

We can blame her and people like her, and perhaps rightfully so. I think the lion's share of the blame rests elsewhere. We need to blame how busy life is, anymore. I think we need to blame the prevalence of propaganda is in our media. (Arguably, we can blame Reagan for both of these.)

So how do we fix it?





fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
40. But she will still vote for him again
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019

The Republicans support their nominee no matter what. They would never admit that "their guy" is wrong.

No matter how good the Democratic nominee is, these idiots will always support a Republican over a Democrat. They are blind idiot partisans whom facts don't matter to them.

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