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highplainsdem

(48,971 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:47 PM May 2019

NY Times Reportedly Steering Writers Away From Maddow and Other Cable Shows it Deems Too Partisan

From Mediaite:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ny-times-reportedly-steering-writers-away-from-maddow-and-other-cable-shows-it-deems-too-partisan/


The New York Times is warning off editors and reporters from appearing on primetime MSNBC and CNN shows hosted by anchors like Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon for fear of appearing partisan, according to a new report.

Sources tell Vanity Fair’s Joe Pompeo that managers at the newspaper have been steering journalists away from appearing on certain cable news programs with a renewed vigor.

Alongside Maddow and Lemon, Lawrence O’Donnell’s show on MSNBC is also apparently a no-go, as are Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson’s programs — though Times reporters were typically never seen on those shows anyway.

Reached for comment by Vanity Fair, a Times spokeswoman pointed to the section of the newspaper’s “Ethical Journalism” handbook that covers broadcast media appearances:

“In deciding whether to make a radio, television or Internet appearance, a staff member should consider its probable tone and content to make sure they are consistent with Times standards. Staff members should avoid strident, theatrical forums that emphasize punditry and reckless opinion-mongering.”


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More from the Vanity Fair article Mediaite is summarizing:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/the-times-gives-maddow-the-cold-shoulder


On Sunday, May 19, New York Times finance editor David Enrich got a request from a producer at MSNBC to appear on Rachel Maddow’s show the following night. Enrich had a red-hot front-page story for Monday’s paper, about anti-money-laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank flagging suspicious transactions involving Donald Trump and Jared Kushner, and Maddow wanted to bring him on air to talk about it.

Maddow is MSNBC’s ratings queen, jostling with Sean Hannity every night for the crown of most-watched time slot in cable news. That’s why reporters tend to relish the exposure they get from doing her show. Enrich said yes, but after mentioning the planned appearance to the Times’s communications department, he was told he would have to retroactively decline. The reason? The Times was wary of how viewers might perceive a down-the-middle journalist like Enrich talking politics with a mega-ideological host like Maddow. The producer, who was informed that the Times asks members of the newsroom not to appear on opinionated shows to discuss political subjects, was miffed about the cancellation, sources said. Enrich declined to comment. An MSNBC spokesman said, “For over a decade, The Rachel Maddow Show has welcomed the best journalists from across the country and celebrated the hard work they do, day-in and day-out. This includes countless New York Times reporters and editors. That commitment to journalism is part of the DNA of the show.”

It’s not just Maddow. The Times has come to “prefer,” as sources put it, that its reporters steer clear of any cable-news shows that the masthead perceives as too partisan, and managers have lately been advising people not to go on what they see as highly opinionated programs. It's not clear how many shows fall under that umbrella in the eyes of Times brass, but two others that definitely do are Lawrence O’Donnell’s and Don Lemon’s, according to people familiar with management’s thinking. Hannity’s or Tucker Carlson’s shows would likewise make the cut, but it's not like Times reporters ever do those anyway. I’m told that over the past couple of months, executive editor Dean Baquet has felt that opinionated cable-news show are getting, well, even more opinionated. Baquet and other managers have become increasingly concerned that if a Times reporter were to go on one of these shows, his or her appearance could be perceived as being aligned with that show’s political leanings. “He thinks it’s a real issue,” one of my Times sources said. “Their view,” said another, “is that, intentionally or not, it affiliates the Times reporter with a bias.”

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A highly placed source at one of the cable networks said he found the Times’s guidelines to be “inconsistent, incoherent, and poorly conceived.” He also pointed out, “At the moment that Donald Trump became president, and print media was coincidentally in crisis mode from a business perspective, a significant contributor to the success of publications like the New York Times and the Washington Post was the exposure that their great work got on networks like MSNBC and CNN. They are the beneficiaries of some very positive exposure for their journalists.”



The NY Times had no problem with Rudy Giuliani feeding smears against the Bidens to their reporters to get easily debunked RW conspiracy theories moved over to the Times, lending that nonsense credibility.

But they think being associated with Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell and Don Lemon will discredit them?
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NY Times Reportedly Steering Writers Away From Maddow and Other Cable Shows it Deems Too Partisan (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
Fine. More time for writers like Michael Tomasky, Joe Conasen, Gene Lyons, and McKay Cobbins. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #1
WAPO gets as many scoops lately anyway and are more reliably reported. hlthe2b May 2019 #3
both sides bullshit again. JI7 May 2019 #2
The Grey Lady has become Wellstone ruled May 2019 #4
Target the vanishing center BeyondGeography May 2019 #5
I think Mr. Baquet is misguided. madaboutharry May 2019 #6
For corporate news, facts are opinions now. Volaris May 2019 #7
All the false equivalence that's fit to print. TeamPooka May 2019 #8
False equivalency at its finest. NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #9
Kinda sorry I stopped subscribing months ago so I can't do it again! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #10
Here's a better criteria for the Times C_U_L8R May 2019 #11
Does this mean Michael Schmidt will stop DeminPennswoods May 2019 #12
I will unsubscribe davekriss May 2019 #13
Seems like a stupid move to me. llmart May 2019 #14
The lies and misinformation they print discredits them. onecaliberal May 2019 #15
So, this leads to the question has the NYT has banned it's employees from appearing on FOX pecosbob May 2019 #16
Wow, Donald Trump is right Tactical Progressive May 2019 #17
NYT is starting a new weekly cable show on FX DeminPennswoods May 2019 #18
Rupert Murdoch bought off the Sulzbergers. Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #21
Cough, cough, Maggie Haberman, cough, cough ProudLib72 May 2019 #19
NYT serve wealth and power. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #20

no_hypocrisy

(46,083 posts)
1. Fine. More time for writers like Michael Tomasky, Joe Conasen, Gene Lyons, and McKay Cobbins.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:50 PM
May 2019

And David Corn.

New York Times just gave up some good free advertising for the paper.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
6. I think Mr. Baquet is misguided.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

Rachel Maddow conducts serious interviews with reporters.

Going on a cable show to discuss a news story you wrote means you think like the host? I think that is a stupid theory.

The Washington Post is a better paper.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
7. For corporate news, facts are opinions now.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:00 PM
May 2019

At least they're trying to split the difference, ...but again...creates a form of false equivalency that 'real journalism' can I'll afford right now...profit or not.

Just my 2 cents...ymmv.

C_U_L8R

(44,999 posts)
11. Here's a better criteria for the Times
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:23 PM
May 2019

Instead of left or right, choose your media by truthful or untruthful.

DeminPennswoods

(15,279 posts)
12. Does this mean Michael Schmidt will stop
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:34 PM
May 2019

appearing on Deadline WH? Wallace is more apoplectic about Trump and the GOP than Maddow or O'Donnell. Or maybe the rule doesn't apply if the host is your girlfriend.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
14. Seems like a stupid move to me.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:38 PM
May 2019

Which readers are they afraid of losing? Someone needs to tell them that trump supporters don't read anything, especially not the NY Times.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
16. So, this leads to the question has the NYT has banned it's employees from appearing on FOX
Fri May 31, 2019, 12:12 AM
May 2019

for "fear of appearing partisan"?

DeminPennswoods

(15,279 posts)
18. NYT is starting a new weekly cable show on FX
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:51 PM
May 2019

It will feature their stories and journalists. I suspect this is the real reason they don't want their reporters on the cable news/politics channels. The premier is this Sunday, 6/2

Link:https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/the-weekly?gclid=CNuWkrDFxuICFcLmswod1SMLvQ&gclsrc=ds

Kid Berwyn

(14,885 posts)
21. Rupert Murdoch bought off the Sulzbergers.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jun 2019

Now it makes sense, giving up all that free national advertising NYT was getting 24/7. Most newspapers today aren’t so lucky.

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