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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't Impeach
That will hand tRump another 4 years.
Your choice Nancy.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)will be astronomical - television coverage and analysis, 24-7 - when all of his crimes will be publicly revealed, discussed, and condemned in gory detail.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Trump will declare a tweet war on the hearings which will draw massive attention to them and the media will have a field day talking about them and about Trump. Itll be bigger than the Lorrena Bobbie trial, the OJ Simpson trial, the Menendez brothers trials and Clintons impeachment.
Trump will not come out looking like anything but the thieving con man that he is. There will be debates galore all over the country, in classrooms, homes and at work. The people who love him right now will continue to but the rest of the country, the huge number of people who arent all that informed will learn the truth about him and they will go vote when the time comes.
One reason itll be so impactful is because were going into a Presidential election which is when Americans become interested in backing a candidate. And the candidates themselves will be forced to talk about Trump because hes the big fat white elephant the middle of the room.
The Republicans will be the big losers so dont buy into their shit about how impeachment will hurt us. They will have to answer for their support of Trump. It wont be pretty.
It will keep everyone riveted to the proceedings, and the truth will come out.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Vinca
(50,267 posts)Voters gave us a huge win in the 2018 midterms because they wanted something done about the mad man. If Democrats fail to impeach, I'm afraid those voters will come to believe we are as weak and ineffective on Trump as the GOP and not worth the time to go to the polls and vote.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)hlthe2b
(102,228 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)criminal behavior and vote no is the LAST thing repuke senators want to do. Can see a Dem ad in my head now. Trump tried 11 times to get people to break the law John Cornyn said I dont care
coti
(4,612 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)about not impeaching Bush. It was BS then, its BS now.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hold trump accountable in some way...I will be demoralized to the nth degree. And demoralized people dont work their asses off on campaigns.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Maybe it is impeachment. Maybe censure is the right action. It all depends.
One of the problems I have with jumping into impeachment right now is the scope will be limited to the Mueller report. I want to see all the crimes of the Trump family/organization exposed.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Impeachment?.
deist99
(122 posts)We will never get the senate repukes to convict him because of obstruction of justice. I knew as soon as I read part one of the Mueller report and it saidwe could not establish that anyone in the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians in their election interference activities that we had no chance of removing him.
Only if the house can get some sort of evidence proving Trump conspired with the Russians do we have a chance of getting some repukes to jump ship and vote for impeachment. But considering Muellers team couldnt do it I dont have a lot of faith that the house can.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)They gave us the House to deal with pocketbook issues. I have evidence in support of that position; what do you have?
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)LOL
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)About any pocketbook issues. Just curious.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Joe Sixpack doesn't understand the basics. So one way to educate Joe Sixpack is to impeach the MFer. As a bonus, Joe Sixpack sees Dems fighting and may reward them since his current opinion is that Dems are wimps.
I will bet anyone 10k that tRump will call the Dems wimps for not impeaching him.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Meant IF we dont impeach, right Probably just not enough coffee for me yet
sellitman
(11,606 posts)It's that simple
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)1) the Demoralization of our base that support impeachment if we don't do it
2)the positive effect of getting repukes on record that they condone Trump's crimes.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)If impeached and acquitted by the Senate, he will declare that he has been proven innocent of all charges.
If not impeached, he will declare himself exonerated and innocent of all charges.
Six of one, a half dozen of the other.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)because it gives more credibility to the exoneration claim.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Dem oppo ad.... trump tried to get people to break the law 11 times! Yet John Cornyn (for example) thought that was perfectly normal. Like I said above, duh.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)If the Democratic Party had a strategy ready for that moment, when the Senate is getting ready to hear the impeachment indictment, to run against each of those Senators running for re-election, that might work?!
I would agree that they would need to be much more aggressive and offense-oriented. It would be called-for, and fair, in my opinion, to run ads against those Republican Senators up for re-election.
It would be interesting.
Liberal In Texas
(13,548 posts)If there is no push back to the crimes being or have been committed, he will be able to claim that since we did nothing, he's exonerated.
Criminals must be held accountable not matter how difficult this may seem.
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fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)The container half full or half empty? Or perhaps twice as big as it needs to be. Interesting test.
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MFM008
(19,806 posts)ANYWAY?
by saying there was no there there because democrats didnt impeach.
When impeachment MIGHT make a difference to stop him.
We have a duty regardless to save democracy
And the constitution.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Anything less and Trump will have an exoneration parade and quite possibly 4 more years. Im with Nancy.
Alwaysna
(574 posts)She knows exactly how to get under his skin. He gets so frustrated he tweets or says things he didn't intend to. I hope she continues to bait him until the Democrats have increased public opinion in favor of impeachment. A failed attempt at impeachment would be not help our cause.
Raine
(30,540 posts)totally!