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Don't Impeach (Original Post) sellitman May 2019 OP
Start the impeachment process NOW... it guarantees that tRump will NOT get re-elected!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #1
Feel free to elaborate... brooklynite May 2019 #11
It's simple... the negative press on tRumpty Dumbty that will come with impeachment proceedings InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #15
The impeachment hearings will be like a reality show on steroids lunatica Jun 2019 #33
Yeah that will guarantee him a win in 2020 Roland99 May 2019 #2
That's what I used to think, but this is different than the Clinton nonsense. Vinca May 2019 #3
Agreed! Dennis Donovan May 2019 #4
May also motivate voters to throw out corrupt R Senators (& some REPS) that block impeachment hlthe2b May 2019 #5
Important point seldom mentioned. Having to actually go down in history as condoning Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #8
Yes, it's a campaign issue to run on against Repub Senators nt coti May 2019 #16
Same argument was made in 07 Trumpocalypse May 2019 #7
Not sure if we can equate the two or if we'd even know. I for one will of course vote but if we dont Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #9
Investigate and see where it leads. Trumpocalypse May 2019 #13
True! Man, I didn't realize we only have 50 something of the 235 house Dems supporting Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #18
Agree deist99 May 2019 #27
NO-THEY-DID-NOT brooklynite May 2019 #12
Don't confuse them with facts Trumpocalypse May 2019 #14
And what has the House actually been able to do Crunchy Frog May 2019 #28
they get to write bills to be blocked by the Senate rufus dog Jun 2019 #34
Bull nt Trumpocalypse May 2019 #6
FYI..your post is a bit confusing. You read Don't Impeach but you really Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #10
If we don't impeach we lose 2020 sellitman May 2019 #22
10 million agree ! Two aspects underestimated Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #23
Whether or not he is impeached, he will declare himself exonerated or acquitted. kentuck May 2019 #17
Acquittal by the Senate is worse Trumpocalypse May 2019 #19
Wonder if we are underestimating the effect of forcing repukes to vote no? I see it as a perfect Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #20
I agree.. kentuck May 2019 #21
Impeachment Inquiries MUST START NOW! Liberal In Texas May 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author X_Digger May 2019 #25
Works both ways doesn't it. fleabiscuit May 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Bettie May 2019 #29
And if he gets it MFM008 May 2019 #30
How many Senators will vote to convict? We need 75 redstateblues May 2019 #31
It amuses me the way Nancy is playing cat and mouse with him. Alwaysna Jun 2019 #32
Agree Raine Jun 2019 #35

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Start the impeachment process NOW... it guarantees that tRump will NOT get re-elected!!
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:51 AM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
15. It's simple... the negative press on tRumpty Dumbty that will come with impeachment proceedings
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:14 AM
May 2019

will be astronomical - television coverage and analysis, 24-7 - when all of his crimes will be publicly revealed, discussed, and condemned in gory detail.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. The impeachment hearings will be like a reality show on steroids
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:09 AM
Jun 2019

Trump will declare a tweet war on the hearings which will draw massive attention to them and the media will have a field day talking about them and about Trump. It’ll be bigger than the Lorrena Bobbie trial, the OJ Simpson trial, the Menendez brothers trials and Clinton’s impeachment.

Trump will not come out looking like anything but the thieving con man that he is. There will be debates galore all over the country, in classrooms, homes and at work. The people who love him right now will continue to but the rest of the country, the huge number of people who aren’t all that informed will learn the truth about him and they will go vote when the time comes.

One reason it’ll be so impactful is because we’re going into a Presidential election which is when Americans become interested in backing a candidate. And the candidates themselves will be forced to talk about Trump because he’s the big fat white elephant the middle of the room.

The Republicans will be the big losers so don’t buy into their shit about how impeachment will hurt us. They will have to answer for their support of Trump. It won’t be pretty.

It will keep everyone riveted to the proceedings, and the truth will come out.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
3. That's what I used to think, but this is different than the Clinton nonsense.
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:58 AM
May 2019

Voters gave us a huge win in the 2018 midterms because they wanted something done about the mad man. If Democrats fail to impeach, I'm afraid those voters will come to believe we are as weak and ineffective on Trump as the GOP and not worth the time to go to the polls and vote.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. Agreed!
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:08 AM
May 2019
Even if the Senate fails to convict, it will only serve to energize people to go to the polls to finish the job the Senate failed to finish.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. Important point seldom mentioned. Having to actually go down in history as condoning
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:42 AM
May 2019

criminal behavior and vote no is the LAST thing repuke senators want to do. Can see a Dem ad in my head now. “Trump tried 11 times to get people to break the law John Cornyn said ‘I don’t care’”

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. Not sure if we can equate the two or if we'd even know. I for one will of course vote but if we dont
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

Hold trump accountable in some way...I will be demoralized to the nth degree. And demoralized people don’t work their asses off on campaigns.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
13. Investigate and see where it leads.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:10 AM
May 2019

Maybe it is impeachment. Maybe censure is the right action. It all depends.

One of the problems I have with jumping into impeachment right now is the scope will be limited to the Mueller report. I want to see all the crimes of the Trump family/organization exposed.

deist99

(122 posts)
27. Agree
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:33 PM
May 2019

We will never get the senate repukes to convict him because of obstruction of justice. I knew as soon as I read part one of the Mueller report and it said”we could not establish that anyone in the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians in their election interference activities” that we had no chance of removing him.

Only if the house can get some sort of evidence proving Trump conspired with the Russians do we have a chance of getting some repukes to jump ship and vote for impeachment. But considering Mueller’s team couldn’t do it I don’t have a lot of faith that the house can.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
12. NO-THEY-DID-NOT
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:21 AM
May 2019

They gave us the House to deal with pocketbook issues. I have evidence in support of that position; what do you have?

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
34. they get to write bills to be blocked by the Senate
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:34 AM
Jun 2019

Joe Sixpack doesn't understand the basics. So one way to educate Joe Sixpack is to impeach the MFer. As a bonus, Joe Sixpack sees Dems fighting and may reward them since his current opinion is that Dems are wimps.

I will bet anyone 10k that tRump will call the Dems wimps for not impeaching him.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. FYI..your post is a bit confusing. You read Don't Impeach but you really
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:20 AM
May 2019

Meant IF we don’t impeach, right Probably just not enough coffee for me yet

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. 10 million agree ! Two aspects underestimated
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:57 PM
May 2019

1) the Demoralization of our base that support impeachment if we don't do it

2)the positive effect of getting repukes on record that they condone Trump's crimes.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
17. Whether or not he is impeached, he will declare himself exonerated or acquitted.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:15 AM
May 2019

If impeached and acquitted by the Senate, he will declare that he has been proven innocent of all charges.

If not impeached, he will declare himself exonerated and innocent of all charges.

Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Wonder if we are underestimating the effect of forcing repukes to vote no? I see it as a perfect
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:53 AM
May 2019

Dem oppo ad....” trump tried to get people to break the law 11 times! Yet John Cornyn (for example) thought that was perfectly normal. Like I said above, duh.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
21. I agree..
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:18 PM
May 2019

If the Democratic Party had a strategy ready for that moment, when the Senate is getting ready to hear the impeachment indictment, to run against each of those Senators running for re-election, that might work?!

I would agree that they would need to be much more aggressive and offense-oriented. It would be called-for, and fair, in my opinion, to run ads against those Republican Senators up for re-election.

It would be interesting.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
24. Impeachment Inquiries MUST START NOW!
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:05 PM
May 2019

If there is no push back to the crimes being or have been committed, he will be able to claim that since we did nothing, he's exonerated.

Criminals must be held accountable not matter how difficult this may seem.

Response to sellitman (Original post)

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
26. Works both ways doesn't it.
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:33 PM
May 2019

The container half full or half empty? Or perhaps twice as big as it needs to be. Interesting test.

Response to sellitman (Original post)

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
30. And if he gets it
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:41 PM
May 2019

ANYWAY?
by saying there was no there there because democrats didnt impeach.
When impeachment MIGHT make a difference to stop him.
We have a duty regardless to save democracy
And the constitution.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
31. How many Senators will vote to convict? We need 75
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:51 PM
May 2019

Anything less and Trump will have an exoneration parade and quite possibly 4 more years. I’m with Nancy.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
32. It amuses me the way Nancy is playing cat and mouse with him.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:32 AM
Jun 2019

She knows exactly how to get under his skin. He gets so frustrated he tweets or says things he didn't intend to. I hope she continues to bait him until the Democrats have increased public opinion in favor of impeachment. A failed attempt at impeachment would be not help our cause.

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