Responses to "Hillary started birtherism" RW meme?

[caraher]

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My brother flung this at me on Facebook.

He was basically trying to assert an equivalence between Romney's birth certificate joke and, well, pretty much all Democrats. How would you field this one? I mainly focused on the inconsistency between the headline and the story (the headline wrongly implying Hillary started this) and the fact that I've yet to meet a Democrat who was a "birther."

[Motown_Johnny]

1. Hell, I shut down a coworker years ago by pointing out

that if Pres. Obama was not really born in this country then "The Clinton Machine" would have exposed that and he never would have won the nomination.


That shut him right up. I think they are all in awe of Pres. Clinton.

[Ruby the Liberal]

4. +1

I have used that as well. If The Clinton Machine didn't uncover it in 2007-8, it isn't out there.

[dimbear]

2. Let's just say we haven't heard the last of the accusations raised by the rest of the Republican

clown car. Some of their Romney attacks were spot on. Ain't going away. Didn't poison them any if they were first raised by Republicans.

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. That link says "supporters of Hillary Clinton".

Not Hillary, the PUMAs that went off the rails when she dropped from the race in 2008.

[Canuckistanian]

5. PUMAs, yes

I remember those. I think the name stood for "Party Unity, My Ass"

[caraher]

10. Yup

That's exactly the inconsistency I pointed out!

[Firebrand Gary]

6. A) Confirmation that the GOP thinks they are going to lose. B) They are afraid of Hillary 2016

Just saying.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. That crap came from PUMA.

A RW creation to attempt to suppress the Democratic turnout. It was total BS.

PUMA was a a Clinton creation. They were Republicans manipulating a political divide with hate and lies. Period.

[Journeyman]

8. Even if she did, how would that justify someone else continuing a silly, now discredited attack?...

This has now reached the level of "I'm rubber, you're glue." Isn't it past time for everyone to prove they're adults and move on to "big folk" discussions? I know I'm getting desperate for adult debate of our myriad problems -- the real problems, not the fabricated bullshit.

[applegrove]

9. GOP has been trying to create distance between the Clintons and Obama since June.

They don't have any politician with enough gravitas to go up against Obama so they steal the Clintons. They have even put the clintons in some of their ads against Obama. What does your brother say to that? Their candidate will not contrast himself with Obama in an ad? What a pathetic bunch the GOP are.

[caraher]

11. My brother is deliberately slippery...

He clearly favors Rmoney over Obama but likes to pose as an independent or third-party guy. He also posts stuff suggesting no difference between the parties (though he'd certainly swing Libertarian or even Constitution Party before, say, Green). Here's his response to a series of posts lamenting Romney's birth certificate remarks and the reaction to them:

You all need to take a Xanax. What did you all think about Biden telling a group of minorities that Republicans would 'put 'em all back in chains'. I can't wait until all of this hyperventilating ends. To pretend like Democrats take the higher ground on more issues is ridiculous. I don't remember folks getting in an uproar over Hillary Clinton's staff and their fueling of the birther movement. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.html

[Wounded Bear]

12. I know a few RWers like that....

"I"m not a Republican."

Fuck them, their actions tend to support the Republican agenda. Act like them, be them IMHO.