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Schiff making moves on Barr. (Original Post) triron May 2019 OP
K & R Iliyah May 2019 #1
Barr makes John Mitchell look like an honest man RedParrot May 2019 #2
How can this happen? What steps have to take place first? Shell_Seas May 2019 #8
Mitchell was convicted of conspiracy in Watergate coverup RedParrot May 2019 #12
So, AFTER the Trump regime is over, then Barr might face legal charges? Shell_Seas May 2019 #14
We have to wait for a Democratic Administration RedParrot May 2019 #16
Regarding the current prome minister of Israel pandr32 May 2019 #23
It may come to that here, but we'll never get the politics out of it. marylandblue May 2019 #26
Simple Ligyron May 2019 #37
There are things beyond our control. The future is one of them. marylandblue May 2019 #38
I just said it was simple. Ligyron May 2019 #39
Simple, But Not Easy Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #46
Mitchell was the bag man for the coverup. Texin Jun 2019 #47
+1, uponit7771 May 2019 #9
I read this morning True Blue American May 2019 #15
Dis-bar Barr? Ok sounds good! MasonDreams May 2019 #31
I want to dis-Barr tRump. lastlib Jun 2019 #43
Good! It needs to be done. nt lunatica May 2019 #3
Now that's a letter. Raven123 May 2019 #4
More and more Barr is IMO starting to sound like a gangster attorney! n/t RKP5637 May 2019 #5
Excellent Me. May 2019 #6
Barr's a tool, but Cheney is just evil DeminPennswoods May 2019 #17
Barr IS tRump's Dick🍆 Traildogbob May 2019 #20
I Agree Me. May 2019 #32
When I listened to Barr True Blue American Jun 2019 #44
Good. Now I expect Barr to tell Coates not to share. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #7
Sounds sexy! BamaRefugee May 2019 #10
That Mental Image Gives Me A Hard OFF nt smb May 2019 #36
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #11
Something tells me the intel services really want to comply with Schiff FakeNoose May 2019 #13
Agree with you DeminPennswoods May 2019 #18
Kick dalton99a May 2019 #19
Impeach Barr, and then disbar him, or whichever comes first. Perseus May 2019 #21
I fear that this is the perfect storm genxlib May 2019 #22
genxlib, your fears are unfounded. the law and the constitution are on our side. Nitram May 2019 #28
Maybe fear is the wrong word genxlib May 2019 #29
You are right, that is their strategy. It is up to us to make a lot of noise about the truth, and Nitram May 2019 #42
So Schiff wants an update from these agencies about any request Barr makes for information, and hughee99 May 2019 #24
I think you do... and I doubt that they can get it FBaggins May 2019 #30
So you think Schiff wouldn't know that?? triron May 2019 #35
I'm almost certain that he does FBaggins May 2019 #40
I think he knows he's not going to get what he asked for. hughee99 May 2019 #41
Barr is pacifying Trump. True Blue American Jun 2019 #45
Barr makes Roy Cohn look like a liberal. spanone May 2019 #25
If ever a miserable MF needed moves to be made..... dawnie51 May 2019 #27
lol BlueJac May 2019 #34
K&R BlueJac May 2019 #33
knr triron Jun 2019 #48
 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
2. Barr makes John Mitchell look like an honest man
Fri May 31, 2019, 02:38 PM
May 2019

John Mitchell went to jail. Barr is following a similar path

 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
12. Mitchell was convicted of conspiracy in Watergate coverup
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:17 PM
May 2019

Unless there is a blanket pardon from Trump before he leaves office, all of his toadies that played a role in coverup can be prosecuted.

Mitchell was among 7 Nixon Administration officials indicted for conspiracy to coverup Watergate crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/03/02/archives/federal-grand-jury-indicts-7-nixon-aides-on-charges-of-conspiracy.html

 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
16. We have to wait for a Democratic Administration
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:41 PM
May 2019

Take politics out of DOJ. Federal prosecutors will follow the evidence and, if warranted, prosecute former government officials for wrongdoing.

Other countries have jailed former presidents for corruption. Even Israel has jailed a former prime minister, and about to do same with the current one.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
26. It may come to that here, but we'll never get the politics out of it.
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:57 PM
May 2019

We could have the most insulated, apolitical investigation in history and the right will still insist it's a witch hunt. Even worse, if they ever got back into power after that, they will start finding liberal witches everywhere.

I wish I knew what to do about that.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
39. I just said it was simple.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

Not easy or even possible. But we can try.

There are also things beyond their control and the future is defiantly one of them.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
47. Mitchell was the bag man for the coverup.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:52 AM
Jun 2019

Memorable from All the President's Men was the description of that walk-in safe in at Justice where they kept stacks and stacks of cash which was used to fund the coverup and dirty tricks ops.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
31. Dis-bar Barr? Ok sounds good!
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:57 PM
May 2019

How much can you bend twist and contort the law before they take away your priveledge to practice law? Have we established a pattern of obstruction of justice yet? Is not lying to Congress, taking Mueller's report to the White House, and lying with intent to deceive the people enough?

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
43. I want to dis-Barr tRump.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jun 2019

Take Barr down and put him in deep-fry stir. Put in a *REAL* A.G. and do PROPER investigations. Then let the other "dominoes" fall as they may!

My pipe dream..................

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Excellent
Fri May 31, 2019, 02:48 PM
May 2019

watching Barr on CBS he reminded me of Cheney. The ponderous attitude, sometimes downcast eyes in a posture of gravitas. Not to mention being overdressed and sitting before a burning fire. (yes I do know he is in Alaska, but he wasn't on the tundra). Do they go to school for this?

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
20. Barr IS tRump's Dick🍆
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:15 PM
May 2019

Cheney, Literally. Short, soft and a freakin joke. He speaks and acts exactly like the Dick. He is the evil sidekick to this version of the Baffoon president. Anyone see a pattern in GOP rule?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
32. I Agree
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:27 PM
May 2019

that he speaks like Cheney. I saw a distinct resemblance form the time Cheney was quoting the false lead from the NY Times on aluminum tubes.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
44. When I listened to Barr
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 03:06 AM
Jun 2019

Yesterday I could close my eyes and hear Cheney.

Cheney now has a daughter that is as nasty as her father. She tried to run against Enzi, without warning him. Enzi was a family friend. He was shocked. She failed.

Of course Enzi is not really a nice fellow either. I listened to him in a Health care meeting about rural health care. Sanders brought a Doctor who was very familar with the lack of rural health care. All Enzi did was sit and grumble that it cost too much. A typical hateful old Republican.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
13. Something tells me the intel services really want to comply with Schiff
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:21 PM
May 2019

They've been insulted enough by Chump and the GOP for the last 2 years. They can see where this is going and who the good guys are.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. Impeach Barr, and then disbar him, or whichever comes first.
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

There should be a complaint made to bar association and "disbarr" him...He must go out, what a corrupt individual.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
22. I fear that this is the perfect storm
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:29 PM
May 2019

Barr says to release crazy stuff
Intel community complains to the House
House moves to block
Barr throws up his hands and yells "Deep State!"
Trump declares victory and says "I told you they were in cahoots and all out to get me"

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
28. genxlib, your fears are unfounded. the law and the constitution are on our side.
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:10 PM
May 2019

Yelling "Deep State" would be about as effective as yelling "look over there."

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
29. Maybe fear is the wrong word
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:15 PM
May 2019

I just see it as an opportunity to further his propaganda and keep 40% of the public in the dark.

The problem is that the GOP has no problem in weaponizing classified information. Sometimes that is in selectively releasing information as in the case of Valerie Plame.

Other times I think it is maneuvering around what cannot be revealed. I am convinced that the CIA was doing something classified in Benghazi. I think the GOP knows that Hillary couldn't tell the real story so they set her up to take the blame. Being a patriot, she was unable to say how it really played out.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
42. You are right, that is their strategy. It is up to us to make a lot of noise about the truth, and
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:07 PM
May 2019

deny the right wing an uncontested framing of the issues.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
24. So Schiff wants an update from these agencies about any request Barr makes for information, and
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:46 PM
May 2019

to get copies of whatever they give to Barr (that's one of the requests in the story)? And this isn't for a investigation that's complete, it's for one that is currently in progress? Do I understand that part correctly?

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
30. I think you do... and I doubt that they can get it
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:18 PM
May 2019

This letter is really Schiff's response to Trump's action. The "request" at the end is a nonstarter from what I can see.

Congressional oversight authority does not extend to getting information before the executive branch takes an action. Moreover.. the cited code section (50 U.S. Code § 3092) does not create the claimed "statutory obligation" to keep the committee informed of all IC activities... just "intelligence activities" (really just "financial intelligence activities&quot ... which can't possibly be stretched to include what they're asking for.

On edit... I just noticed that he's insisting on getting anything (regardless of classification) that is sent over to DOJ for the AG's review. Which means that whether or not it gets declassified at all... the committee get's to see it. Definitely not happening.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
40. I'm almost certain that he does
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:43 PM
May 2019

and doesn't care.

It's useful either way. When Coats tells him "no" (or just ignores the request), it's one more thing to add to the list of the administration refusing legitimate congressional oversight.

That's of partisan benefit... but the underlying fight really goes back decades and is between the legislative and executive branch (regardless of who controls either one at any given time).

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
41. I think he knows he's not going to get what he asked for.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:47 PM
May 2019

He's going to say that the DOJ is obstructing Congressional oversight, but his requests don't really fall under the oversight rules. Had the republicans requested that congress be kept up to date on the goings on in Comey's investigation of Clinton and a list of and access to all documents Comey requested during the investigation, we would have suggested that they were attempting to interfere in that investigation.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
27. If ever a miserable MF needed moves to be made.....
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:06 PM
May 2019

it's Barr. He gives sacks of shit a bad reputation.

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