Medicare for All Doesn't Go Far Enough

[Dirty Socialist]

I understand Medicare doesn't cover a colonoscopy if they find cancer. I also understand Medicare doesn't cover experimental care. Maybe that is an oversight they will fix, but I am fucking GREEDY about our health. I want something that will cover everyone for everything.

[tymorial]

1. I have said for a while that Medicare would be a terrible plan

Supplementary insurance is always required to cover the gap. The usual response is Medicare for all really means universal healthcare but it's a poor descriptor for a nationalized health care system.

[Turin_C3PO]

2. My view is this:

It has to be a gradual transition, unfortunately. First, pass Public Option legislation, then pass Medicare for all, eventually make it Medicaid for all, which would basically make everything free. But it’ll cost money and the American people need to be prepared to pay for it in taxes.

[wasupaloopa]

8. Medicare is not free. It is insurance. You pay premiums.

[Turin_C3PO]

10. I know Medicare isn't free.

But Medicaid basically is. I have expanded Medicaid due to disability and I pay very little. Actually now I have Medicare as a primary and Medicaid pays the rest. But before I was on disability I had just Medicaid.

[walkingman]

3. How about adding dental and vision while we are at it.

[Dirty Socialist]

4. Cool!

Add it on

[mwooldri]

5. IMO the goal would be like the UK's NHS but with more choice.

Healthcare that is free of charge at the point of service. Not free of course, insurance contributions would need to be paid but should be based on ability to pay.

[IADEMO2004]

6. No it doesn't but in America ideas and plans must fit on a bumper sticker.

Wife on disability income with health insurance through The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (OBAMACARE) after 24 months forced to Medicare with a supplemental plan (only one choice if under 65). Much higher drug costs and some drugs to treat cancer and chemo side effects not listed in Medicare Part D formulary you don't get it and no appeal. You can do out of pocket. $65 jump to $700 worst jump for her.

Woman in Chemo with wife.... Trump supporter.........we don't speak.

[Tanuki]

7. Medicare and colonoscopy:

https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/screening-colonoscopies
"Screening colonoscopies

Medicare covers screening colonoscopies once every 24 months if you’re at high risk for colorectal cancer. If you aren’t at high risk for colorectal cancer, Medicare covers the test once every 120 months, or 48 months after a previous flexible sigmoidoscopy. There’s no minimum age requirement.

Your costs in Original Medicare

You pay nothing for this test if your doctor or other qualified health care provider accepts An agreement by your doctor, provider, or supplier to be paid directly by Medicare, to accept the payment amount Medicare approves for the service, and not to bill you for any more than the Medicare deductible and coinsurance.

However, if a polyp or other tissue is found and removed during the colonoscopy, you may pay 20% of the Medicare-approved amount of your doctor's services and a co-payment in a hospital setting. The Part B deductible doesn't apply." 
  (More at link)

[fescuerescue]

9. Experimental care is a problem for all insurance

So that's a break even from where we are now.

But not covering colonoscopy if it uncovers something? wow. That's a big step back from traditional insurance. If that's true, I wonder what else we would lose out on?