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bigtree

(85,987 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:45 AM Jan 2012

White House Announces Summer Jobs Initiative

January 5th, 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is looking to boost summer job prospects for kids.

The White House says that with help from the private sector it’s gotten commitments for nearly 180,000 youth employment opportunities for next summer and is aiming for tens of thousands more.

Obama says that with young people facing record unemployment the government must do everything it can to make sure they have opportunities to learn skills and a work ethic.

The summer jobs plan is to be announced Thursday. It’s the administration’s latest “We Can’t Wait” initiative to go around Congress. Many of the positions would be unpaid training opportunities


read: http://www.longislandpress.com/2012/01/05/white-house-announces-summer-jobs-initiative/

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1. "Many of the positions would be unpaid training opportunities"
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:53 AM
Jan 2012

I suspect that the "trainers" will be compensated very well though.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
2. my own life experience
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:58 AM
Jan 2012

. . . gives me an understanding of just how critical that initial work experience can be for youth. I suspect that you know very little about the value or experience of volunteer positions which feature or provide some type of skill-set training for youth. It's incredible that anyone would try and discourage this . . .

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
8. I guess I have to wonder about jobs in
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:05 AM
Jan 2012

which you are adding value but are not compensated for it. I would discourage my children from pursuing occupations with unpaid internships. How the internship is valued is how the job is also valued for which you are preparing. I have always been uneasy about the student teacher unpaid teaching experience for this reason. Since that is in the public sector, a case can be made for it. Another case is that it is true training in which the organization is deriving limited benefits. Where it gets really hairy is in the private sector. Unpaid journalism internships are probably the most glaring example. Why anyone would want to pursue such an occupation is beyond me?

To put it in perspective engineering interns make from $15-$20/hr.

Some volunteer positions do derive additional benefits such as recommendations to professional schools (like medicine). Even that approach has a market equivalent (CNA, Paramedic, etc).

Unpaid positions that set individuals up for future opportunities is another way to exclude those who cannot afford to volunteer because they need to work to pay for school and living expenses.

Teenagers should be compensated for the work that they do like anyone else. It is ridiculous to have internships such as sales in a clothing store for example - that is just exploitation.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
11. Your right - that is just exploitation
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:29 AM
Jan 2012

An engineering internship is a means to solidify years of study in abstract mathmatics to the real world - (ask me how I know) and an invaluable tool in the eduction of an engineering student.

Internships at McDonalds is a means to exploit kids

Ever see the "New Store Training" at Walmart. Its more of a full on "Propaganda Indoctrination" complete with pay-offs to the management who will ultimately make "Cuts" of the new hires to see who gets to stay.

Most thoroughly disqusting thing I have ever seen in my professional life

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. You can't expect people with marketable skills to work for nothing..
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 07:20 AM
Jan 2012

I do think all the "trainers" should be required to take and pass the HS exit exam applicable in their state however.

We wouldn't want our students taught by people who know less than they do.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
10. That will help pay outrageous college tuition, won't it?
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:35 AM
Jan 2012

My son has friends who worked at unpaid internships last summer. They are fortunate enough to have wealthy parents.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Get more adults employed..
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 07:12 AM
Jan 2012

When adults are chasing the jobs teenagers would normally take it doesn't leave as much room for teenagers.

 

SpiralHawk

(32,944 posts)
5. "No. No no no no no no." - Republicons (R)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 07:16 AM
Jan 2012

"We don't need no steenkin jobs for American proles. We need more more more tax cuts for the wealthy. Smirk. Sneer."

- Republicons (R)

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
7. Rec'd. Great opportunity for some young adults to get experience, which is what
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 07:44 AM
Jan 2012

so many companies are looking for.

I'll take good news anywhere I can get it.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
9. Could we possibly get a jobs program for grown ups..
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:31 AM
Jan 2012

... such as myself? Sorry to say that I really can't work for free however, having gone without a paycheck or an Unemployment Benefit for almost two years now, the getting paid part of it is kind of important to me.

Although, being invisible as we are, I doubt we'll be heard, seen, or helped.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
12. So, months from now, kids might get an "unpaid training opportunity".
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:40 AM
Jan 2012

And that will help their unemployed parents how? Should I conclude they lack skills and a work ethic?

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