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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMitt Romney, chickenhawk
The portion of the documentary (CNNs Romney Revealed) in question covers Mitt Romneys stint as a door-to-door Mormon recruiter in 1968 France, a duty which helped him to avoid military service in Vietnam. Earlier in the doc, narrator and interviewer Gloria Borger glossed over the fact that Romney sought, and received, four deferments during the Vietnam War (and later lied about it), instead saying simply that he was exempt as a student, and with a high draft number.
The doc also notes, as an example of Romney becoming his own man, that he protested in favor of the draft that he so skillfully avoided, before moving on to the time he spent in France, a time that Romney once described as tough because the French were not happy to see Americans, because we were in Vietnam at the time.
Yes, you heard that right. Not only did Mitt Romney protest in favor of sending other peoples children to die in Vietnam, even as he avoided service himself, he then complained about how those dying Americans made it tough for him while he was in France avoiding service.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-the-most-ridiculous-statement-ive-ever-seen-on-television/
The doc also notes, as an example of Romney becoming his own man, that he protested in favor of the draft that he so skillfully avoided, before moving on to the time he spent in France, a time that Romney once described as tough because the French were not happy to see Americans, because we were in Vietnam at the time.
Yes, you heard that right. Not only did Mitt Romney protest in favor of sending other peoples children to die in Vietnam, even as he avoided service himself, he then complained about how those dying Americans made it tough for him while he was in France avoiding service.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-the-most-ridiculous-statement-ive-ever-seen-on-television/
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Mitt Romney, chickenhawk (Original Post)
pokerfan
Aug 2012
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Mtndreamer
(35 posts)1. Romney is a fraud..
he protested in favor of Viet Nam while at Stanford, and then avoided the draft by going to France as a Mormon Missionary.. where he enjoyed riding his bicycle through the french country side on weekends.
During the '08 convention he was asked why none of his sons ever served in the military, and he responded" "They serve their country, by working on my campaign".
No one in his family have any military service, so now he wants to get all agressive and stuff???
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)2. 5 generations of Romneys have not served
central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)3. won't serve, won't pay taxes to support those who do
that's how much I love Amercia
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)4. France is Marvelous in
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=533879
1966, 1967, 1968, 1969
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#University.2C_France_mission.2C_marriage_and_children:_1965.E2.80.931975
In July 1966, Romney left for 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary...He arrived in Le Havre with ideas about how to change and promote the French Mission... Rules against drinking, smoking, and dating were strictly enforced..like most individual Mormon missionaries, he did not gain many converts, with the nominally Catholic but secular, wine-loving French people proving especially resistant to a religion that prohibits alcohol. He became demoralized, and later recalled it as the only time when "most of what I was trying to do was rejected."... He continued to work hard; having grown up in Michigan rather than the more insular Utah world, Romney was better able to interact with the French.He was promoted to zone leader in Bordeaux in early 1968, then in the spring of that year became assistant to the mission president in Paris, the highest position for a missionary.In the Mission Home in Paris he enjoyed palace-like accommodations. Romney's support for the U.S. role in the Vietnam War was only reinforced when the French greeted him with hostility over the matter and he debated them in return. He also witnessed the May 1968 general strike and student uprisings.
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While he was away, Ann Davies had converted to the LDS Church, guided by George Romney, and had begun attending Brigham Young University (BYU).Romney was nervous that she had been wooed by others while he was away, and she had indeed started dating popular campus figure Kim S. Cameron and had sent Romney in France a "Dear John letter", greatly upsetting him; he wrote to her to in an attempt to win her back.At their first meeting following Romney's return they reconnected, and decided to get married in two weeks but agreed to wait three months to appease their parents.At Ann's request, Romney began attending Brigham Young too, in February 1969. The couple were married on March 21, 1969, in a civil ceremony at Ann's family's home in Bloomfield Hills that was presided over by a church elder.The following day the couple flew to Utah for a wedding ceremony at the Salt Lake Temple.
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Romney had missed much of the tumultuous American anti-Vietnam War movement while away, and was surprised to learn that his father had turned against the war during his unsuccessful 1968 presidential campaign.Regarding the military draft, Romney had initially received a student deferment, then like most other Mormon missionaries a ministerial deferment while in France, then another student deferment. When those ran out, his high number in the December 1969 draft lottery (300) ensured he would not be selected
No wonder he chose:
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instead of:
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1966, 1967, 1968, 1969
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#University.2C_France_mission.2C_marriage_and_children:_1965.E2.80.931975
In July 1966, Romney left for 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary...He arrived in Le Havre with ideas about how to change and promote the French Mission... Rules against drinking, smoking, and dating were strictly enforced..like most individual Mormon missionaries, he did not gain many converts, with the nominally Catholic but secular, wine-loving French people proving especially resistant to a religion that prohibits alcohol. He became demoralized, and later recalled it as the only time when "most of what I was trying to do was rejected."... He continued to work hard; having grown up in Michigan rather than the more insular Utah world, Romney was better able to interact with the French.He was promoted to zone leader in Bordeaux in early 1968, then in the spring of that year became assistant to the mission president in Paris, the highest position for a missionary.In the Mission Home in Paris he enjoyed palace-like accommodations. Romney's support for the U.S. role in the Vietnam War was only reinforced when the French greeted him with hostility over the matter and he debated them in return. He also witnessed the May 1968 general strike and student uprisings.
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While he was away, Ann Davies had converted to the LDS Church, guided by George Romney, and had begun attending Brigham Young University (BYU).Romney was nervous that she had been wooed by others while he was away, and she had indeed started dating popular campus figure Kim S. Cameron and had sent Romney in France a "Dear John letter", greatly upsetting him; he wrote to her to in an attempt to win her back.At their first meeting following Romney's return they reconnected, and decided to get married in two weeks but agreed to wait three months to appease their parents.At Ann's request, Romney began attending Brigham Young too, in February 1969. The couple were married on March 21, 1969, in a civil ceremony at Ann's family's home in Bloomfield Hills that was presided over by a church elder.The following day the couple flew to Utah for a wedding ceremony at the Salt Lake Temple.
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Romney had missed much of the tumultuous American anti-Vietnam War movement while away, and was surprised to learn that his father had turned against the war during his unsuccessful 1968 presidential campaign.Regarding the military draft, Romney had initially received a student deferment, then like most other Mormon missionaries a ministerial deferment while in France, then another student deferment. When those ran out, his high number in the December 1969 draft lottery (300) ensured he would not be selected
No wonder he chose:
and
instead of:
or