Time has come for NEW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS!

[Smackdown2019]

With the trump picked supreme court and Republican majority states house seats, it is time for the WILL OF THE PEOPLE to introduce and VOTE on new CONSTITUTION AMENDMENTS on how our representative districts are drawn, on preservation on Roe vs Wade, and to ensure our VOTES are paper Ballots to have counts after an election.

[alwaysinasnit]

1. I agree that there is a need for some drastic action but I am a bit leary of a constitution

convention.

https://billmoyers.com/story/kochs-to-rewrite-constitution/

[rampartc]

8. no good can come of constitutional amendment,

and certainly not constitutional convention, until we can control the 2/3 state legislatures. nothing can come of this process as long as they appoint the delegates, write the amendmenmts, and pass them over our objection.

[LonePirate]

2. We need several new amendments to the Consitution, easily 6-10 of them.

It's the only way to rein in Republican abuses of our democracy.

[hedda_foil]

3. The people don't get to vote on amendments. State legislatures do.

Not a good idea.

[Smackdown2019]

4. The legislators do. Your correct, but

We must start a dividing line.

[treestar]

7. We have to get state legislatures back

That's where the fight is going to be on gerrymandering. We have to concentrate on them more and not worry so much about who is President. It is the state legislatures that draw the lines.

Rachel talked about that last night and how Democrats want to be fair, but Republicans want an unfair advantage and how with the new Court ruling, we have to act like Rs when we get the majority in a state legislature.

[Jake Stern]

5. Start with state constitutions

Work on taking redistricting out of the hands of legislators and put them in the hands of bipartisan committees. If it can pass in red states like Arizona, Alaska and Idaho it stands a chance everywhere.

Same with mandating paper ballots, etc.

Chances are far higher getting amendments passed state by state than trying to amend the US constitution.

[ripcord]

6. It isn't going to happen

There is no way to get three quarters of the state's to agree much less two thirds of the Senate and the House.

[highplainsdem]

9. No, we do NOT want amendments when the GOP controls most state legislatures. Very bad idea.

[AncientGeezer]

10. How do you propose to do that....we can't get the ERA passed.

"Will Of The People" don't vote on Constitutional Amendments

[Smackdown2019]

11. I said what needs to be done... not it be easy

Long shot

[AncientGeezer]

14. What you said was...

"..it is time for the WILL OF THE PEOPLE to introduce and VOTE on new CONSTITUTION AMENDMENTS ." I'm pointing out that's NOT how it's done.

[Buckeyeblue]

12. The creators of the constitution made it almost impossible to amend

I think that was a failing on their part. While the constitution has mostly stood up well, the creators were not forward thinking enough to allow for easier change. Maybe they didn't think it would last over 200 years. But at this point, it would be impossible to make changes.

[Igel]

18. Hardly.

It made it difficult for a divided country to amend in ways that didn't speak to commonly held views or beliefs.

Larger issues tend to be easy. If you want a constitution that's easy to alter and gets into the weeds, look at the Texas constitution.

The US constitution is under 8 thousand words. The Texas constitution is pushing 90 thousand and a lot of what would normally be considered normal laws in another state are put into the constitution. You want constitutions to be short, fundamental, big-picture sorts of things, not stipulating details that are annoyances.

[standingtall]

13. Our only path to fixing this mess besides waiting for one or more of the right wing judges

to either resign or die is to win the presidency,senate and the house and stack the court.

[AncientGeezer]

15. So you are endorsing what the ratfu**ers have done.

You'll endorse it again when they regain majorities....or say they do it harder now?

[standingtall]

16. if we also make all inhabited U.S. territories states

they they may never get back the senate or at least it would take them a very long time. Better to beat them at their own game then let them continue to do all the stuff they are doing. If we don't stack the courts the first chance we get it will take us at least 100 hundred years to fix the mess they make, because Democrats will not be allowed to legislate even with majorities, because republicans will just run to their supreme anytime we pass legislation they don't like.

[AncientGeezer]

17. That's NOT going to happen.....make territories states.

You're telegraphing to the pukes...stack the courts now....before we get there 'cause we will.

[Igel]

19. No territory's requested statehood.

The closest anybody's come for a while is a referendum with a very small percentage of the population of Puerto Rico voting. Bad to make that kind of decision with a "superminority" of the eligible voters on board (if a supermajority is 60 or 67%, let's call less than 30% a "superminority&quot .

[standingtall]

21. Just because no territory requested doesn't mean they would be against it and even if

they are they could still be convinced otherwise. I think it was 2015 when Puerto Rico voted on a referendum on statehood and it would've been pointless to request it then, because republicans had the senate and they would've blocked it.

[standingtall]

20. repukes cannot stack the supreme court now, but they are already

stacking the lower courts.There is an 1860s law that limits supreme court justices to 9 and I'm pretty sure you need both chambers to repeal a law and we have the house.

[AncientGeezer]

22. It's NOT a law....there is NO law that limits SCOTUS seats

FDR tried to up the court...he failed but there is no "Law"

[standingtall]

24. it is a law it was passed in 1869

FDR tried to expand the courts on the grounds that the constitution doesn't limit the number of justices and leaves the makeup of the court up to congress and he was right. He failed because his own party didn't support it. Congress would've had to repeal this legislation before FDR could've expanded the court. I think it is time for us to try again.







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_Act_of_1869



The Judiciary Act of 1869, sometimes called the Circuit Judges Act of 1869, a United States statute, provided that the Supreme Court of the United States would consist of the Chief Justice of the United States and eight associate justices, established separate judgeships for the U.S. circuit courts, and for the first time included a provision allowing federal judges to retire without losing their salary.[1] This is the most recent legislation altering the size of the Supreme Court.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Supreme Court of the United States shall hereafter consist of the Chief Justice of the United States and eight associate justices, any six of whom shall constitute a quorum; and for the purposes of this act there shall be appointed an additional associate justice of said court.
— Judiciary Act of 1869 § 1

[AncientGeezer]

26. Stand corrected

[MineralMan]

23. First, we need super-majorities in Congress

and control of more state legislatures. VOTE!

Read the Constitution, please. We cannot enact any Amendments at this time. First things first.

[Smackdown2019]

27. Need to educate the uneducated

Path to a stack Congress is to educate the uneducated. It's sad that our forefathers envision that educated land owners get to vote. They understood the concept of educated reasoning, not the uneducated getting to vote for their popularity beliefs. That's heart of the issue.... the uneducated....or in our times.... low id brainwashed red necks. Now, everyone gets to vote.. which is ok to some extent.. educated, uneducated, land owning or not.... should get to vote... BUT those are brainwashed.... should be deprogramized before getting to vote. I am afraid that a new civil war is on the horizon...

[ck4829]

25. K&R