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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am no longer confident Trump will be the 2020 GOP nominee
Just for what my 2 cents are worth. The physical and mental deterioration evident in the Korea trip are so bad that I don't think they can prop him up for another 18 months. At some point they know he will have to have a neurological test by an actual doctor (not forged by Trump himself) that will have to be made public.
This is important to at least think about because the GOP has been changing how the primaries run, giving the national party more power to essentially overrule or ignore state votes for the delegates.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Dream on.
People have been doing this thing since the day he announced.
One of the many things exposed by this has been just how absurdly servile the republican party is.
They are like SM cucks, and are so sick and depraved they ENJOY how he treats them.
Arkansas Granny
(31,507 posts)I don't think Republicans will consider dumping him unless he becomes totally incapacitated.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)However, he pretty much did keep his mouth shut, except when he read his prepared lines off the teleprompter.
sop
(10,106 posts)But, they'll have to find a couple of really strong guys to haul his dead fat ass around.
rampartc
(5,388 posts)the trump brand is important to them.
imanamerican63
(13,750 posts)If there is a "stunt Donnie dummy"? We are all in more trouble than we thought!
rampartc
(5,388 posts)but at least the dummy would stfu.
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)He will be the nominee.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I agree that if he at least appears functional, he will be the nominee. I'm not sure they can weekend-at-bernies him for 18 more months. There are already jokes about how Ivanka had to stay within 3 feet of him throughout the summit. That's only going to get worse.
gordianot
(15,234 posts)Someone is enduring his Narcissistic shit 24/7.
anarch
(6,535 posts)Nothing he says now makes any fucking sense; what difference would it make if he just goes to full-on drooling and babbling?
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)interesting times
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)
and they won't insist on a proper, objective medical exam. If he can't do White Supremacist rallies, they will run Pence or someone worse to continue the "Trump Agenda" - Republicans really only have the base Hillary called "Deplorables" now... the cat is out of the bag.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)self respect. This orange abomination makes their entire "party" look stupid. What is he holding over them? Is he blackmailing them with compromat from Russia? If so, he could make Ivanka his replacement, and they would play along with it, to protect themselves. Seems there are NO members of the gop who really care about this country. Self preservation is all they care about, plus money.
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)Pointing to his loss of balance, his facial contortions and lack of control which were very much in evidence at G20, but also during the Royal visit, the further deterioration of his vocabulary to shortened phrases at about a second grade level, and his inability to read at various times (long having been a problem) among other physical manifestation.
The facial contortions and loss of body control for short periods many believe is highly consistent with FrontoTemporal Dementia (FTD) with progression quite different than Alzheimer's.
Great Britain in early June:
Link to tweet
Close-up:
https://d.tube/#!/v/quantazelle/u8wvrrbj
At G20:
Link to tweet
https://d.tube/#!/v/quantazelle/u8wvrrbj
Very disturbing, but as the latter twitter poster suggests, is this why Pelosi is not moving full speed on impeachment? She has reason to believe his progression is such that it will not be necessary? WOW, if so...
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ill eat my hat if that were to happen, but it wont.
anarch
(6,535 posts)and I get it, I guess, but I find it depressing that at this point "politics" takes priority over what is right; and nobody seems to really care about what's right, what the Constitution indicates. If we're abandoning the rule of law, what's the point of going through the motions of bureaucracy, etc.?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)for St. Ronnie for a long time. They will do likewise for tRump. They will not do what is best for the country, only what is best for them. Shouldn't this mental deterioration be further reason for impeachment? We have a mentally disqualified person running the country, and he is causing great harm. Stop it now, before it gets worse. He should HAVE to take medical tests to prove us wrong, if he really is in true mental health. I mean with REAL doctors, chosen by qualified people, not the gop.
Link to tweet
Full thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/969459517594394624.html
Given his mobility/balance/occasional tremor issues, he may well be on Levodopa, perhaps Zoloft for anxiety or others. Both of the first two can readily result in the kind of pupil dilation we see periodically with Trump...
empedocles
(15,751 posts)- no matter what trump fouls up.
blue cat
(2,415 posts)He will make Ivanka his VP
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Looks like she had them enlarged specially for the occasion.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)let him run for a third term.
Of course, even as controversial as he was, he did have some serious accomplishments.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)75 years ago the general public could still be unaware that the President was nearly paralyzed from the waist down. We've got essentially 24/7 footage on YouTube now.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)But, yes, they did a good job of hiding his condition.
But, but, it wasn't the public pushing for a third term. It was Wilson himself trying to convince his team he could handle it, while they felt he couldn't.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)Reporters knew about Roosevelt's condition and they took pictures of him in a wheelchair. They just did not print them or discuss his condition. Even after TV the same with Kennedy. Some reporters knew that he had life threatening illnesses but they stayed silent. Not that world anymore.
Having said that I disagree with the OP. There are many reporters, most who don't like Trump, who are in close contact with him on a day to day basis. They would love to write a story and they haven't. Also there have been plenty of leaks from this WH. That tells me there is nothing there.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Apple will let the press play with its new toy if they agree to not write about it until the big day. The state department will let the press see reports or speeches the same way.
And at the daily meeting, editors will decide whether or not the story has enough merit, and evidence, to publish.
Interpretations of Trump's odd actions without proper backup would be irresponsible and dangerous.
rampartc
(5,388 posts)(credit to my former governor Edwin Edwards. )
3Hotdogs
(12,333 posts)No indication that happened.
delisen
(6,042 posts)such as result of investigations leading the party to dump him or he may make a deal to relinquish the office.
I don't seem any firm evidence of physical and mental deterioration, so I don't know what you are specifically referring to.
He is quite capable of faking any deterioration or exaggerating deficits if it assists him in keeping people off balance or if he may need to claim mental incapacity as a defense sometime in the future.
Trump seems to be acting the role of successful strong man leader who is preparing to get elected in 2020 -building a false narrative complete with photo ops of a "successful and politically accomplished family-Meeting with the Queen of England, jetting off to the G-20 where his son-son-law and daughter as being presented as highly respected political heavyweights, making an historic visit with the leader of a hostile nation, N Korea.
ON an NPR audio clip this morning, Trump is heard making a casual, off-the-cuff assessment about his N. Korea initiative. He sounds fully competent.
Although I do not have firm evidence, I believe that the old guard in the Republican Party does have a replacement candidate waiting should they or he decide at any point that the best option for them is for him to make a deal to leave office.
no_hypocrisy
(46,038 posts)the IMAGE of a leader. The visit to Great Britain. Trying to look witty at the G-20 conference on Saturday.
Trump could pull a bait-and-switch in 2020 at the last minute and have Ivanka run in his place. Note that I said Ivanka, not Mike Pence.
Yeah, yeah, I know. RNC, the primaries, the nomination. But how many times has Trump "broken the rules" and got away with it? And why should this situation be any different?
Vinca
(50,237 posts)As long as he's able to sign their legislation in some fashion, they're happy. They've lost all ability to have shame and they certainly have no common sense. Mitch McConnell is the real president.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Remember, Hillary fell and has brain damage, remember the hole in Hillary's tongue, remember Hillary only has 6 months to live?
Be careful what you say about people because karma is listening.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And he will eventually not run, and keep the campaign funds given to him. He's a fraud. republicans will dump him.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)lark
(23,065 posts)No one will take him out besides his master at a time of his masters' choosing, after he's gotten everything he could, all the worldwide destruction possible, before he puts all the dirt and shows drumpf for nothing but an ignorant, criminal, traitrous grifter who sold America down the tubes for personal profit.