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A breastfeeding mother dining at a pizzeria in Gettysburg, Pa. was asked to cover herself with an apron, setting off backlash against the restaurant's owner and manager that continues to spread on social media.
Olivia Cook of Hanover began nursing her infant son while she was dining at the The Upper Crust with her family, she wrote in a Facebook post, when a manager came over with an apron and asked her to cover up, allegedly telling her it was house policy.
Manager Peter Bales said he didn't approach Cook until other patrons at the restaurant complained about the situation. But, Bales said, the mother was welcome at the restaurant and welcome to breast feed.
He was trying to tell Cook that it is the restaurant's policy to offer a cover to a mother breastfeeding in case she would like a blanket, Bales said.
"That was a courtesy that we offer and she declined, which was fine...and then it was immediate overreaction like 1 to 1000, that it was a horrible offense that I had offered," Bales said.
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Breastfeeding in public without a cover is legal in all 50 states, and Cook felt compelled to share the experience as a means to stop the cycle of shame placed on breastfeeding mothers.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/breastfeeding-mom-asked-to-cover-up-at-pizzeria-she-politely-declined-their-offer/ar-AADH7q9?li=BBnb7Kz
genxlib
(5,518 posts)To cover the heads of the people who complained.
Definitely the best solution to the real problem.
That's what I'd do if I owned a restaurant.
Greybnk48
(10,164 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I would definitely leave a big tip.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)Our society is so screwed up on this and women's bodies--breasts, especially.
So, one can never expose breasts. Ok. And how about locales that have tried to charge women going topless who, post breast cancer have had radical mastectomies sans reconstruction. Exactly what is behind that?
Grow up, men (and those women who enable them).
Bettie
(16,077 posts)her refusing his offer, it shouldn't be a big deal.
The patrons who complained? WTF people, babies need to be fed and nursing mothers shouldn't be forced to avoid public places to avoid people who look for reasons to be angry/offended.
ETA: I breastfed my three boys and did it in public often. I was offered a cover once and declined and that was that.
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)I nursed in public for 18 months. My daughter was fine with my breast being covered up - and, in every instance when we chose to be covered we brought our own cover.
Nursing uncovered is not something that is done accidentally. Women and infants who are uncomfortable nursing uncovered in public bring their own covers. It isn't as if the restaurant is being courteous to the nursing pair - they are siding with uncomfortable observers and by doing so suggesting that there is something shameful about nursing uncovered.
Bettie
(16,077 posts)don't take offense at the offer.
But, I'm fairly easy going about stuff.
None of my kids would tolerate their heads being covered while nursing, so I never covered them. I did it in public a lot, got a few dirty looks from people, but hey, some people are just awful.
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)is to appease those people giving you dirty looks. That's why it's offensive. If it's legal to breastfeed wtihout covering in all 50 states, no one has any business suggesting it is shameful. (I don't think they have any business, even if it isn't expressly legal, but especially where it is legal no one should be shaming people into covering & especially not dressing it up as a courtesy to the breastfeeding dyad when it is to appease those offended.)
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)It is illegal to even ask her to do so.
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)Pretty impressive
Bettie
(16,077 posts)while on the move.
I couldn't, boobs are just too large, especially while I was nursing!
Turbineguy
(37,296 posts)what's next? Men with wifebeater shirts showing their hairy armpits?
Oh wait. Never mind.
LuvNewcastle
(16,838 posts)take umbrage with breastfeeding. I usually do my Walmart shopping at about 2:00 in the morning, and I have seen much worse than this.
AJT
(5,240 posts)Covering with a blanket is not too much to ask.
MissB
(15,804 posts)Breast feeding is not only completely natural, its also a basic need for a baby to be fed. Often.
Folks that have an issue with it should simply look in a different direction. Its not that hard to not stare.
AJT
(5,240 posts)MissB
(15,804 posts)You dont need to be staring at a woman that is feeding her baby with her breast. Its not that interesting anyway- it is a perfectly normal action.
irisblue
(32,932 posts)Keep your eyes on your own business, if it gets you bothered, pack your meal to go.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)should pack HER meal to go. Or pump beforehand and bottle feed while in public.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)You can't just pump milk and keep it in a bottle. It has to be refrigerated.
Surely she could carry that along with a baby and all the other things needed when you're out with a baby.
For fuck's sake.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)until the kid is eating more solid food
irisblue
(32,932 posts)SoCal, why is a nursing in public mother an issue for you?
mcar
(42,278 posts)to protect your tender sensibilities?
Why? You don't like seeing a mother feeding her infant, don't look.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)What is wrong, do you get locked in to staring and can't get back to minding your own business? There is nothing about a woman breast feeding a baby in public that puts me out, she is minding her own business and I would be in public to attend to my own business.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Feeding a baby. So weird.
Iggo
(47,537 posts)Good luck!
Lars39
(26,107 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)How about people mind their own fucking business.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Why do you think it's her responsibility to work around your personal issues?
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)This kind of shaming of women feeding their children in the healthiest way possible is incredibly offensive.
Women with small children are allowed to be out and about and enjoying their lives. They are allowed to take their children with them - bonding is important. Breast milk is the healthiest - and it is healthier directly from the breast for reasons such the interplay between baby's saliva and mom's breastmilk allows mom's body to adjust the milk to more closely match what baby needs - in addition to the instant feedback loop that better matches mom's supply to baby's quantity needs, and increased skin to skin bonding. There is no reason for mom to hide the fact that she is feeding her baby.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Eating without a blanket is not too much to ask.
(six of one, half a dozen of the other... and each as without merit as its corollary)
Bettie
(16,077 posts)I know a lot of women who used a cover and more who didn't.
My boys hated having something over their heads and wouldn't nurse if their heads were covered.
Still, most of the time in public all anyone who isn't looking really, really close will see is a baby's head and a little bit of skin.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It is not like she has a man or woman slurping on her. I have seen it once when I heard a baby begin to cry, saw part of a woman's breast when she whipped it out to feed the baby, I went back to what I was doing. It is so puritanical to see something wrong with a woman breastfeeding, it's none of your or my business what she is doing.
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)with breastfeeding - or, at most, familiar with one infant nursing.
The nursing relationship, and each baby, are different. My daughter was happy with enough cover so no one could see any part of my breast - but her eyes had to be uncovered. We nursed for 18 months in public, and I don't recall anyone taking particular notice.
Not all babies are willing to have be covered at all - or are willing to have the breast covered. I have been around many - and some are vehemently opposed to any covering at all. The choice, then, is to go sit in a hot (or cold) car, to nurse in a place I'm pretty sure you would refuse to eat - the bathroom, to sequester yourself for the entire nursing period (in my case 18 months), or to impose a screaming baby on everyone else until we can move to a place you deem appropriate for us to nurse.
So, yeah, it may well be too much to ask.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Yeah, it is too much to ask. It isn't women's fault people sexualize breasts. Get over breastfeeding. Am waiting for you to say, "Well, peeing and pooing and jacking off are natural, and we can't do that in public places," because that is what you are implying, and where these "arguments" usually go.
It is also ILLEGAL in all 50 states to ask a woman to cover.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Optional of course!
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Some tiny pizzeria somewhere did something we dont like?
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)hunter
(38,304 posts)In what twisted evil universe is it wrong to nurse a baby?
Right, this one.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I offer that top you as it seems you're wholly unfamiliar with the concept of 'example.'
Hope that helps!!!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)near the beginning of his administration. There were likely bible thumpers that believe a woman should be covered to her ankles, so seeing a baby working over a breast was shocking to them and they likely could not look away like a normal person would have.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Women's breasts literally evolved to feed babies. So many men -- and women -- treat them (and the women they are attached to) as sexual. It is literally a fetish with so many people.
Lancero
(3,002 posts)I'll admit, I've seen some messy eaters when out but honestly? If seeing other people eat is THAT horrific, maybe you should just stay at home?
csziggy
(34,131 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)PLUS missing teeth. I'm a mess and they STILL let me eat in public. Anyone who'd rather see me than a baby eat in public is messed up in their knucklehead.
Oh and I talk with my mouth full too. But my wife hits me for it so we're even.
I think I may have just gotten dis-invited to future DU Meet-ups.
skylucy
(3,737 posts)hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)ROB-ROX
(767 posts)Those EVIL people make something NATURAL seem wrong. They want their own third world country standards which are PERVERTED......My children were all breast fed and they are better (health & mentally) for it. The in bred conservatives are mentally ill and basically all SICK people who are all PERVERTS.....
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)It's actually quite demeaning and insulting.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... table breast feed her baby than hear a hungry baby cry. Im trying to eat over here.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,766 posts)hunter
(38,304 posts)...including church.
As a fourth-fifth-sixth grader my mom's whip-it-out to nurse my youngest siblings used to embarrass the hell out out of me.
It's now something I admire her for.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)baby was just that case. The baby had started to go off. I looked over hoping the mom would quiet the child when she pulled out a breast. The baby immediately went silent and I went back to what I was doing.
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)Then again, I can't bear to hear our furry babes cry either.
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)is this society going to grow up, out in Europe they wouldn't think twice.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I minded my own business and let her mind her's. Nothing about what she was doing offended me, the baby had been getting cranky, likely because he or she was hungry.
LuckyCharms
(17,414 posts)Hide the pizzas, Joe! Hide the fucking pizzas until we figure out what to do!! All of you employees, you are free to leave for the day, with pay. I apologize for you having to be exposed to a BREAST!! All you customers, your meal is free today, I'm so sorry!
Croney
(4,657 posts)In the unlikely event they notice and ask what a nursing mom is doing, say she's feeding her baby like you were fed, of course. (Or if yours was bottle-fed, say it's the other way of feeding babies.)
You don't want to look askance at a nursing mother if I'm nearby. This old lady will Uncle Buck you.
tavernier
(12,370 posts)Why would anyone eat at Upper Crust? Worst pizza ever!!
Iggo
(47,537 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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rickford66
(5,522 posts)Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)It's OK to show people on TV literally getting their skulls bashed in, but you can't show even a glimpse of a female areola without people absolutely losing their shit.