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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,766 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:17 PM Jul 2019

Breastfeeding mom asked to 'cover up' at pizzeria. She 'politely declined their offer'

A breastfeeding mother dining at a pizzeria in Gettysburg, Pa. was asked to cover herself with an apron, setting off backlash against the restaurant's owner and manager that continues to spread on social media.

Olivia Cook of Hanover began nursing her infant son while she was dining at the The Upper Crust with her family, she wrote in a Facebook post, when a manager came over with an apron and asked her to cover up, allegedly telling her it was house policy.

Manager Peter Bales said he didn't approach Cook until other patrons at the restaurant complained about the situation. But, Bales said, the mother was welcome at the restaurant and welcome to breast feed.

He was trying to tell Cook that it is the restaurant's policy to offer a cover to a mother breastfeeding in case she would like a blanket, Bales said.

"That was a courtesy that we offer and she declined, which was fine...and then it was immediate overreaction like 1 to 1000, that it was a horrible offense that I had offered," Bales said.

-snip-

Breastfeeding in public without a cover is legal in all 50 states, and Cook felt compelled to share the experience as a means to stop the cycle of shame placed on breastfeeding mothers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/breastfeeding-mom-asked-to-cover-up-at-pizzeria-she-politely-declined-their-offer/ar-AADH7q9?li=BBnb7Kz

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Breastfeeding mom asked to 'cover up' at pizzeria. She 'politely declined their offer' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP
They should offer blankets... genxlib Jul 2019 #1
LoL Blecht Jul 2019 #2
Best idea of all! love it! n/t Greybnk48 Jul 2019 #16
The wisdom of Solomon! Generic Other Jul 2019 #28
Exactly. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #40
LOL... I love it... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #52
Nice. Throck Jul 2019 #53
If the restaurant owner was OK with Bettie Jul 2019 #3
It is offensive for the restaurnt to offer the cover. Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #15
I think it is weird, but I Bettie Jul 2019 #17
But the reason you are getting offered a cover Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #24
It doesn't matter what the owner is "okay" with obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #60
One time I saw a woman walk through a train while breastfeeding Renew Deal Jul 2019 #4
I always admired the ones who could do it Bettie Jul 2019 #18
If restaurants allow this Turbineguy Jul 2019 #5
Yes. There is so much nastiness all around, I see no need to LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #8
Just because it's natural doesn't mean you should be so public about it. AJT Jul 2019 #6
I mean, I totally love eating in the dark in a stuffy room MissB Jul 2019 #10
Use a baby blanket. No one is stopping a person from nursing. AJT Jul 2019 #66
It's fine to avert your eyes. MissB Jul 2019 #67
Gotta disagree with you here irisblue Jul 2019 #11
Maybe the nursing mother SoCalNative Jul 2019 #29
Yeah, maybe she could put a portable fridge on her shoulder or carry an ice chest on her back. MrsCoffee Jul 2019 #30
Then stay home SoCalNative Jul 2019 #32
Why? Food is available with Mom. irisblue Jul 2019 #34
So nursing mothers must be sequestered for perhaps over a year mcar Jul 2019 #38
Wow, you seem to really be judgemental about breastfeeding. Blue_true Jul 2019 #42
Yup, someone has some weird issue with women's breasts obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #64
That's about enough of that. Iggo Jul 2019 #47
Grow up Lars39 Jul 2019 #48
Oh fuck that noise. MrsCoffee Jul 2019 #50
Bwhahahha jberryhill Jul 2019 #51
You're a piece of work obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #63
Why? Mariana Jul 2019 #35
I remember the days when it was uncommon to see a visibly pregant woman. Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #45
Yeah, no -- GTFO breasts obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #62
"Just because you may dislike it doesn't mean it should be made so private" LanternWaste Jul 2019 #20
Actually, that is sometimes too much to ask Bettie Jul 2019 #21
Exactly what is wrong with a woman openly breastfeeding a baby? Blue_true Jul 2019 #41
Spoken with the voice of somoene not intimately familiar Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #46
Do you eat with a blanket over your head? obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #61
Good gawd. Iggo Jul 2019 #69
Shariapizzaria Law Zambero Jul 2019 #7
Why is this news? Loki Liesmith Jul 2019 #9
Because it gets clicks and comments. Flaleftist Jul 2019 #13
Because it's a universal human rights issue, not just one pizza place. hunter Jul 2019 #19
Often, an example points to a larger standard. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #22
My guess is a lot of MAGATS are visiting Gettysburg after Trump made a big deal there Blue_true Jul 2019 #43
Because it is sexist AF obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #65
I really don't understand why people complain because they saw someone eating in a restaurant. Lancero Jul 2019 #12
++++++++++++++++ csziggy Jul 2019 #14
i have to fight a beard and mustache OriginalGeek Jul 2019 #25
LOL! Best post! skylucy Jul 2019 #26
LOL... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #55
Damn Evil Conservative Republicans Perverts ROB-ROX Jul 2019 #23
There's nothing courteous about offering something her cover herself up with Downtown Hound Jul 2019 #27
I'd much rather the mother at the next ... Whiskeytide Jul 2019 #31
Best comment in the whole thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #33
My mom and my wife, her sisters and my sisters, would breast feed hungry babies anywhere... hunter Jul 2019 #37
Same here. The only situation where I have saw a woman whip one out and feed a Blue_true Jul 2019 #44
Oh, yes.. We are hard-wired to react to babies crying--at least most of us... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #56
geez, when bdamomma Jul 2019 #36
I saw a young woman openly breastfeeding recently. Blue_true Jul 2019 #39
OMG! OMG!!! IT'S...IT'S...A BREAST!!!!! LuckyCharms Jul 2019 #49
Be a good role model for your children at a restaurant. Croney Jul 2019 #54
I'm stunned!! tavernier Jul 2019 #57
Next time I have the chance to eat there, I won't. Iggo Jul 2019 #70
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #58
I'm shocked. We're mammals ?? rickford66 Jul 2019 #59
Mammals with a guilt complex Major Nikon Jul 2019 #68

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
52. LOL... I love it...
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 07:59 AM
Jul 2019

Our society is so screwed up on this and women's bodies--breasts, especially.

So, one can never expose breasts. Ok. And how about locales that have tried to charge women going topless who, post breast cancer have had radical mastectomies sans reconstruction. Exactly what is behind that?

Grow up, men (and those women who enable them).

Bettie

(16,077 posts)
3. If the restaurant owner was OK with
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jul 2019

her refusing his offer, it shouldn't be a big deal.

The patrons who complained? WTF people, babies need to be fed and nursing mothers shouldn't be forced to avoid public places to avoid people who look for reasons to be angry/offended.

ETA: I breastfed my three boys and did it in public often. I was offered a cover once and declined and that was that.

Ms. Toad

(34,004 posts)
15. It is offensive for the restaurnt to offer the cover.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jul 2019

I nursed in public for 18 months. My daughter was fine with my breast being covered up - and, in every instance when we chose to be covered we brought our own cover.

Nursing uncovered is not something that is done accidentally. Women and infants who are uncomfortable nursing uncovered in public bring their own covers. It isn't as if the restaurant is being courteous to the nursing pair - they are siding with uncomfortable observers and by doing so suggesting that there is something shameful about nursing uncovered.

Bettie

(16,077 posts)
17. I think it is weird, but I
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jul 2019

don't take offense at the offer.

But, I'm fairly easy going about stuff.

None of my kids would tolerate their heads being covered while nursing, so I never covered them. I did it in public a lot, got a few dirty looks from people, but hey, some people are just awful.

Ms. Toad

(34,004 posts)
24. But the reason you are getting offered a cover
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jul 2019

is to appease those people giving you dirty looks. That's why it's offensive. If it's legal to breastfeed wtihout covering in all 50 states, no one has any business suggesting it is shameful. (I don't think they have any business, even if it isn't expressly legal, but especially where it is legal no one should be shaming people into covering & especially not dressing it up as a courtesy to the breastfeeding dyad when it is to appease those offended.)

Bettie

(16,077 posts)
18. I always admired the ones who could do it
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jul 2019

while on the move.

I couldn't, boobs are just too large, especially while I was nursing!

Turbineguy

(37,296 posts)
5. If restaurants allow this
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jul 2019

what's next? Men with wifebeater shirts showing their hairy armpits?

Oh wait. Never mind.

LuvNewcastle

(16,838 posts)
8. Yes. There is so much nastiness all around, I see no need to
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jul 2019

take umbrage with breastfeeding. I usually do my Walmart shopping at about 2:00 in the morning, and I have seen much worse than this.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
6. Just because it's natural doesn't mean you should be so public about it.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jul 2019

Covering with a blanket is not too much to ask.

MissB

(15,804 posts)
10. I mean, I totally love eating in the dark in a stuffy room
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jul 2019

Breast feeding is not only completely natural, it’s also a basic need for a baby to be fed. Often.

Folks that have an issue with it should simply look in a different direction. It’s not that hard to not stare.

MissB

(15,804 posts)
67. It's fine to avert your eyes.
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jul 2019

You don’t need to be staring at a woman that is feeding her baby with her breast. It’s not that interesting anyway- it is a perfectly normal action.

irisblue

(32,932 posts)
11. Gotta disagree with you here
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jul 2019

Keep your eyes on your own business, if it gets you bothered, pack your meal to go.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
29. Maybe the nursing mother
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jul 2019

should pack HER meal to go. Or pump beforehand and bottle feed while in public.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
30. Yeah, maybe she could put a portable fridge on her shoulder or carry an ice chest on her back.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:37 PM
Jul 2019

You can't just pump milk and keep it in a bottle. It has to be refrigerated.

Surely she could carry that along with a baby and all the other things needed when you're out with a baby.

For fuck's sake.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
38. So nursing mothers must be sequestered for perhaps over a year
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jul 2019

to protect your tender sensibilities?

Why? You don't like seeing a mother feeding her infant, don't look.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Wow, you seem to really be judgemental about breastfeeding.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jul 2019

What is wrong, do you get locked in to staring and can't get back to minding your own business? There is nothing about a woman breast feeding a baby in public that puts me out, she is minding her own business and I would be in public to attend to my own business.

Ms. Toad

(34,004 posts)
45. I remember the days when it was uncommon to see a visibly pregant woman.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:23 PM
Jul 2019

This kind of shaming of women feeding their children in the healthiest way possible is incredibly offensive.

Women with small children are allowed to be out and about and enjoying their lives. They are allowed to take their children with them - bonding is important. Breast milk is the healthiest - and it is healthier directly from the breast for reasons such the interplay between baby's saliva and mom's breastmilk allows mom's body to adjust the milk to more closely match what baby needs - in addition to the instant feedback loop that better matches mom's supply to baby's quantity needs, and increased skin to skin bonding. There is no reason for mom to hide the fact that she is feeding her baby.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. "Just because you may dislike it doesn't mean it should be made so private"
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jul 2019

Eating without a blanket is not too much to ask.

(six of one, half a dozen of the other... and each as without merit as its corollary)

Bettie

(16,077 posts)
21. Actually, that is sometimes too much to ask
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jul 2019

I know a lot of women who used a cover and more who didn't.

My boys hated having something over their heads and wouldn't nurse if their heads were covered.

Still, most of the time in public all anyone who isn't looking really, really close will see is a baby's head and a little bit of skin.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. Exactly what is wrong with a woman openly breastfeeding a baby?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jul 2019

It is not like she has a man or woman slurping on her. I have seen it once when I heard a baby begin to cry, saw part of a woman's breast when she whipped it out to feed the baby, I went back to what I was doing. It is so puritanical to see something wrong with a woman breastfeeding, it's none of your or my business what she is doing.

Ms. Toad

(34,004 posts)
46. Spoken with the voice of somoene not intimately familiar
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jul 2019

with breastfeeding - or, at most, familiar with one infant nursing.

The nursing relationship, and each baby, are different. My daughter was happy with enough cover so no one could see any part of my breast - but her eyes had to be uncovered. We nursed for 18 months in public, and I don't recall anyone taking particular notice.

Not all babies are willing to have be covered at all - or are willing to have the breast covered. I have been around many - and some are vehemently opposed to any covering at all. The choice, then, is to go sit in a hot (or cold) car, to nurse in a place I'm pretty sure you would refuse to eat - the bathroom, to sequester yourself for the entire nursing period (in my case 18 months), or to impose a screaming baby on everyone else until we can move to a place you deem appropriate for us to nurse.

So, yeah, it may well be too much to ask.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
61. Do you eat with a blanket over your head?
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:31 AM
Jul 2019

Yeah, it is too much to ask. It isn't women's fault people sexualize breasts. Get over breastfeeding. Am waiting for you to say, "Well, peeing and pooing and jacking off are natural, and we can't do that in public places," because that is what you are implying, and where these "arguments" usually go.

It is also ILLEGAL in all 50 states to ask a woman to cover.

hunter

(38,304 posts)
19. Because it's a universal human rights issue, not just one pizza place.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jul 2019

In what twisted evil universe is it wrong to nurse a baby?

Right, this one.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. Often, an example points to a larger standard.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jul 2019

I offer that top you as it seems you're wholly unfamiliar with the concept of 'example.'

Hope that helps!!!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. My guess is a lot of MAGATS are visiting Gettysburg after Trump made a big deal there
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:08 PM
Jul 2019

near the beginning of his administration. There were likely bible thumpers that believe a woman should be covered to her ankles, so seeing a baby working over a breast was shocking to them and they likely could not look away like a normal person would have.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
65. Because it is sexist AF
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:36 AM
Jul 2019

Women's breasts literally evolved to feed babies. So many men -- and women -- treat them (and the women they are attached to) as sexual. It is literally a fetish with so many people.

Lancero

(3,002 posts)
12. I really don't understand why people complain because they saw someone eating in a restaurant.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jul 2019

I'll admit, I've seen some messy eaters when out but honestly? If seeing other people eat is THAT horrific, maybe you should just stay at home?

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
25. i have to fight a beard and mustache
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:04 PM
Jul 2019

PLUS missing teeth. I'm a mess and they STILL let me eat in public. Anyone who'd rather see me than a baby eat in public is messed up in their knucklehead.


Oh and I talk with my mouth full too. But my wife hits me for it so we're even.


I think I may have just gotten dis-invited to future DU Meet-ups.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
23. Damn Evil Conservative Republicans Perverts
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:45 PM
Jul 2019

Those EVIL people make something NATURAL seem wrong. They want their own third world country standards which are PERVERTED......My children were all breast fed and they are better (health & mentally) for it. The in bred conservatives are mentally ill and basically all SICK people who are all PERVERTS.....

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
27. There's nothing courteous about offering something her cover herself up with
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jul 2019

It's actually quite demeaning and insulting.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
31. I'd much rather the mother at the next ...
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:51 PM
Jul 2019

... table breast feed her baby than hear a hungry baby cry. Im trying to eat over here.

hunter

(38,304 posts)
37. My mom and my wife, her sisters and my sisters, would breast feed hungry babies anywhere...
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 07:22 PM
Jul 2019

...including church.

As a fourth-fifth-sixth grader my mom's whip-it-out to nurse my youngest siblings used to embarrass the hell out out of me.

It's now something I admire her for.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Same here. The only situation where I have saw a woman whip one out and feed a
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jul 2019

baby was just that case. The baby had started to go off. I looked over hoping the mom would quiet the child when she pulled out a breast. The baby immediately went silent and I went back to what I was doing.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
56. Oh, yes.. We are hard-wired to react to babies crying--at least most of us...
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 08:05 AM
Jul 2019

Then again, I can't bear to hear our furry babes cry either.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. I saw a young woman openly breastfeeding recently.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:48 PM
Jul 2019

I minded my own business and let her mind her's. Nothing about what she was doing offended me, the baby had been getting cranky, likely because he or she was hungry.

LuckyCharms

(17,414 posts)
49. OMG! OMG!!! IT'S...IT'S...A BREAST!!!!!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019

Hide the pizzas, Joe! Hide the fucking pizzas until we figure out what to do!! All of you employees, you are free to leave for the day, with pay. I apologize for you having to be exposed to a BREAST!! All you customers, your meal is free today, I'm so sorry!

Croney

(4,657 posts)
54. Be a good role model for your children at a restaurant.
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 08:02 AM
Jul 2019

In the unlikely event they notice and ask what a nursing mom is doing, say she's feeding her baby like you were fed, of course. (Or if yours was bottle-fed, say it's the other way of feeding babies.)

You don't want to look askance at a nursing mother if I'm nearby. This old lady will Uncle Buck you.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
68. Mammals with a guilt complex
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jul 2019

It's OK to show people on TV literally getting their skulls bashed in, but you can't show even a glimpse of a female areola without people absolutely losing their shit.

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