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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo how does it feel right now, GOP?
You have defended, lied for, covered up for, and made excuses for your pResident since day one.
You have not only supported your treasonous pResident, you have enabled him at every turn. You have twisted yourselves into shapes heretofore not known to man in order to make your pResidents inane ramblings seem normal, to Trump-splain his idiocy, to cover up his episodes of obvious mental instability, and to excuse his blatant corruption.
And well done on all counts your beloved base is still with you.
But how does it feel to defend concentration camps? How does it feel to dismiss innocent children being traumatized and abused as no big deal?
How does it feel to show up on the news shows, look into the camera, and tell people that toddlers walking around in diapers that havent been changed in weeks is just another way to Make America Great Again?
What goes through your mind as you hear about the atrocities being perpetrated at for-profit detention centres, knowing you will be called upon to defend those atrocities?
Do you feel like Nazis trying to defend concentration camps? Do you feel like you are being called upon to defend the indefensible? You should because you are.
This IS a test. You either support this Trump policy of putting immigrant children in cages without adequate food, water, and access to the means to keep themselves clean or you dont.
There is no middle ground here. Its a yes or no question. You either believe that innocent children should be taken away from their parents and subjected to horrific living conditions or you dont.
So answer the question. The entire world is awaiting your response so lets hear it.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)I doubt they care. Wish I could say different.
But there is hope. Having watched the out pouring of love and help in my Community that is still going on every day to repair the damage of 15 tornadoes I really find it hard to believe they will not notice. The Churches here banded together, crews are still going out daily from the Churches to provide food, supplies and hard work to clean up tells me what the people in this country really are.
Right now we are in a very dark place, knowing about the many are suffering while our Royal family travels all over the world in stunning luxury at our expense, doing serious damage to our standing in the world but watching my community unite I still have hope.
JustAnotherGen
(31,815 posts)I've been hanging out on Castro's page.
These *things* are vicious.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)second, these are human F I L T H
paleotn
(17,911 posts)infinite_wisdom
(73 posts)You are correct. They don't care. They are oblivious to what is happening and through their media lens they see an out of control AOC lying about patriotic border patrol agents who are only exercising their 1st amendment rights on Face Book. These invaders are coming to the USA in search of handouts and are being treated extremely well when they are caught at the border.
That's the sickness we're dealing with.
The great masses of people in America are not paying attention anyway.
It just keeps getting worse. You have a FB group created for border agents that is just loaded to the brim with disgusting racist remarks followed up by high fives and disgusting photoshopped images of Democratic leaders....and it has 9,500 members. Not 9 or 95 members but 9,500 members. That agency needs a major purge with those members fired losing their ability to ever work in law enforcement again anywhere ever. But I fear this investigation won't lead to hardly anything happening. Then what? Just more chaos, more hate, more fascism.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Timmygoat
(779 posts)And here are my thoughts while I was awake,
Why does this president want to give himself a military parade, when he was a draft dodger, as was his grandfather (kicked out of his own country for cowardice) and who has two grown sons who have not spent one minute of service to the country and even skipped out of a pub in Ireland and did not pay the bill, and who it seems we are supporting.
Why are they getting ready to attack Mueller (who supposedly cleared Trump of all wrongdoing)
How have we become a country that keeps refugees in horrific conditions, even leading to many deaths.
And it goes on and on, my representative Mark Walker of NC (supposedly a pastor) fawns over Trump, and is sickening in his support for him. So much for christianity.
Well, this is my ramble, could go on and on.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Posts here.
If this exposure does not wake the Trump supporters to the damage they have done to this Country I am not sure what will.
Lest we forget the likes of Mitch McConnell and his out right bragging that he will do nothing does not awaken the voters in Kentucky what do we have left? His long trail of revenge and hate have completely destroyed the Senate. And the House was not far behing with the ignorant, billionaire owned Freedom Caucus that was pretty well wiped out in the last election.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Magats look upon them as brown things that have invaded their white country.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Could you blame them?
BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)They dont see these detention centers as concentration camps. They dont see the kids as innocent. They dont believe the conditions are that bad. They believe the entire premise of your post is false.
Might they feel bad if they believed every word you said is true? Maybe but probably not. Theyd just say Obama did it even though he didnt.
Its impossible to shame them with this kind of thing. Its a waste of time.
joshdawg
(2,647 posts)What I hear from trump's supporters is, ''both sides do it."
Never mind that both sides DON'T do it!
Trying to get that idea into their heads is like pushing a chain uphill.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)I have hit some of the up on that.
OK, he did it too or it is his fault.
You are supposedly better than him, so do the right thing.
They ARE doing the right thing, blah, blah, blah ...
There is no honest discussion with republicans/conservatives.
None.
bdamomma
(63,840 posts)didn't have Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller should pay the highest price for what he is promoting.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)hate fuels their fire and lies supports their actions!
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)about these innocent kids or anyone else who doesn't support their hate and prejudices. Trump has shown the world and us just how evil and power mad the GOP and RW Christians are. There is nothing that the GOP and it's base won't do to keep power and to hurt those who oppose them. On our side all of our politicians need to wake up to that fact and fight these evil people with everything they have.
gademocrat7
(10,656 posts)They are soulless.
Sarg
(39 posts)These are people without a conscience. Simply being right wing means that you lack basic empathy; the only thing that matters is you and possibly your immediately family. If other people die or suffer it's not your concern.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)It took a new generation in Germany to accept responsibility. This generation of American Republicans will need to die off before there is any hope.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)Chuck Todd? They are allowed to dance around it and say MAGA it's their own fault. Then we will have to leave it there.
Gothmog
(145,132 posts)The GOP is now the party of torture and concentration camps
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)We would never be in this situation if they had normal human feelings. They don't.
Don't waste your breath on them. They are irredeemable.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Those who could feel such things either left the GOP or were never in it to begin with.
Don't expect to see the remaining ones respond to any truly moral argument.
Not now. Not ever.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)(Till Trump made it up anyway.)
BarbD
(1,192 posts)That 40% of the American Electorate who by opting not to choose, allowed and enabled the republicans to take over this country. When will they wake up?
Autumn
(45,058 posts)that these people on the other side can be worked with to fix anything is fucking delusional.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)This is who and what each and every republican is about or condones, which is essentially the same thing.. None of them give a good god damn about this. If they did trump would be out on his ass in a heart beat. Each and every republican alive today is a mouth breathing troglodyte without an ounce of morality.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)Look at what Faux and Fiends knucklehead Kilmeade had to say: "And these are not like it or not, these are not our kids. Show them compassion, but it's not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country, and now people are saying that they're more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well."
Link to tweet
And this, equating them with an overcrowded house party: "Here's the thing. Picture yourself, you have a house, family of five. You have a party, you have 30 people over. Maybe you have a big party and you have 100 people over and you have two and a half baths. In the beginning, it would be OK with 30. Then after 100 people, it would be a little bit taxed, maybe you got to get an outdoor facility." https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2019/07/02/Foxs-Brian-Kilmeade-likens-overcrowded-border-detention-facilities-to-a-house-party-with-1/224108
And this: Youre never going to have a Hyatt at the border. Its never going to be great, thats never what the intention is. https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-host-brian-kilmeade-on-concerns-about-detention-camp-conditions-never-going-to-have-a-hyatt
This is where the Trump cult gets its red meat. As so many have said, cruelty is the whole point.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)These people are inhuman and without empathy. They don't care. You might as well be talking about cockroaches as far as they are concerned. That is the problem. There in no evil committed in the act of securing power that is not excusable. They will never be swayed by a rational, heartfelt plea.
mahannah
(893 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)Let's face it, two years ago they loved the FBI and hated Kim Jong Un.
Now, simply because Trump tells them to, they hate the FBI and love Kim Jong Un.
They didn't even have to swivel their heads to redouble their contempt for poor children.
and Saudis too. The Saudis who committed murderous acts on Sept 11th 2001.
Those are tRump's criminal thugs.
orangecrush
(19,544 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)They have a genuine bully in the bully pulpit, and McConnell et al are having the time of their lives.
Far-right Republicans are getting rich off the taxpayers now, thanks to tax cuts. They wont be bothered by concentration camps or mass shootings or human suffering of any kind.
I dont know how we can reconcile things with Republicans, now or in the future. Their vision of America is NOT one which I share (to say the least).
paleotn
(17,911 posts)It's orwellian. They're not Americans. They've never been. They don't believe in our institutions. They don't believe in the ideals we strive towards. They don't believe in equality. They don't believe in rule of law. They don't believe in justice for all. They believe in nothing but hate. They are pathetic and evil to their core. They are not Americans. They don't deserve to be called that. Don't ever buy their bullshit patriotism. THEY ARE NOT AMERICANS!
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Dan
(3,551 posts)That they fully intend to stand up to Trump, as soon as he converts the Concentration Camps to Death Camps. The GOP will definitely stand up once Trump decides that killing brown people that come into this country Illegally is within his and Millers power.
Even the Turtle man in charge of the Senate will stand up and against Death Camps.
The Evangelicals and regular supporters of Trump will also reject Trump with the advent of Death Camps.
Dont you think?
That time has come and gone. rethugs have done nothing but double down on it all.
Take, for example, 45's former chief of staff John Kelly. Do you really think that he never knew what the administration's policies were and what they were doing? Once he left the White House, he joined the board of directors of the for-profit prison-slash-detention facility corporation Caliburn International, which owns Homestead, one of the worst facilities holding children seeking refuge.
Remember those hecklers who were trying to shout down AOC when she spoke in front of cameras after touring the facilities in Texas? There's your evangelicals you're hoping will change.
I don't know who first said it, but it's worth repeating.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Why? Because, Judges. The Supreme F*cking Court. Oh, and Trump "pisses off da libruls."
That's it.