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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI once had a perfectly good wringer washing machine.
Sure, it needed a new plug and the pump didnt pump, but I made the best of it. After washing, I emptied as much water as I could into a bucket on the floor, then tipped the machine against my knee to get the last few cups of water out. Stood her back on all fours, wheeled her to the kitchen sink, and filled her up for the rinse. It was great. You should have seen how those rollers worked. Slick as can be. They could flatten just about anything. I really liked that rig and got a wee bit possessive about it. MY washer, dont mess with it.
My neighbor couldnt understand why I wouldnt buy a new washing machine. She showed me how hers worked and gave me hints about where I could get the best deal. I fought the concept of modernization because I liked things just the way they were. MY washer, dont mess with it.
A few years later, I changed a little bit and bought a new washing machine. For some reason, I couldnt do it without a compromise thrown in, so I got the basic model with not one bell and not one whistle. It was okay. Nothing to write home about, just okay. Way down deep I missed my wringer.
Going forward many decadesI still fight modernization, and Im still inept at using (or understanding) anything electronic.
My daughter-in-law recently purchased a new washing machine which has a button for everything. Want to soak a single sock that has tar on it? I bet theres a button for that. Want it to sing to you when the cycle is completed? Press here. It has more lights than a rocket ship dash board, and secretly, I was scared to death of it. One day when she was at work and I was there alone, I forced myself to use the darned thing. I screwed up, accidentally got the door locked before I had all my clothes in it, but I did it.
Im not certain why all this came to mind today. Ive been thinking about some resistance here to new ways of doing things. Like why do we need new if the old is okay? Why did I need a new washing machine if I could balance the old one against my knee and get the same results?
Then it hit me. Progress, in the hands of the right people, can not be stopped. It cant be squashed. It cant be diluted. It cant be tampered with. If the right people are in charge, they wont go backwards or tread water and call it progress.
Our country and our world needs some serious forward motion right now. Like going from a wringer washer to one that sings to you when the job is done.
TEB
(12,841 posts)That brings back memories of my mom and grandma doing wash and both ladies were liberal 😉
malaise
(268,956 posts)Yesterday I decided it is time to learn some of the new features on both my new computer and the internet server I use. I used to be great at this stuff but it is now ahead of me - so it's two hours a day until I master it.
Either move with progress or fade away.
isn't so bad. You can be sure there will be lots of company. At least you'll likely find yourself sitting in a group with people who are capable of conversation rather than sitting around tapping on their phone. I'm enjoying fading immensely. Started going to the library again. But that's just the old revolutionary in me. Always going against the flow and standing out in the crowd.
malaise
(268,956 posts)That annoys lots of friends and family but I like to be tech savvy on my lap top
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)But prefer my IPad. That is my constant companion. Got a Mini as a Christmas present.
Now learning streaming on my smart TV. But I have a couple of family technicians who guide me through on the phone. They insisted I have a computer in the first place. Little did they know they created a monster!
malaise
(268,956 posts)I used to love the IPad - it was useful when my last laptop crashed on me. Now I use it when I travel.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)They communicate differently than I do, but they interact with each other and the world they live in just fine.
This said, I still feel cheated by a birthday text / email and I won't read on a Kindle. I want the book. I want the letter. I want the call. I want a piece of paper.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)We need something well built, something that works the way it should. We need a political washer that cleans the hell out of politics!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)something to "get the ORANGE" out.
Backseat Driver
(4,391 posts)Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody when the load is done or maybe Freddie's new post-mortem release which may be his best. No luck yet, but a girl can dream of the app that will make it happen!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Perfect selection for the task!
Welcome to DU.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Battle Hymn Of Republic?
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Maybe you don't want that new washer with all the buttons and whistles, but they don't make them for you. They make them for your kids or grandkids, and they do want all the add-on features.
I don't really think I need a smart phone but my son and daughter-in-law insist that I have to have one. They can't live without theirs, but I hardly use the one they gave me. Usually I forget to even charge the stupid thing.
Progress is usually defined by the ones who are embracing the changes and finding a way to make them work. I'm 68 and I'll hang on to what I've got as long as I can.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)indispensable tool.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)On my smart phone.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)senior woman.
The Wizard
(12,542 posts)mean more shit that will break. I liked our old washer with a mechanical on and off function, mechanical control for water level. The rest is crap designed to break so you need to buy a new one.
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)it requires an entire circuit board, usually costing half as much as the machine, to be replaced, instead of just a fuse or a solonoid or re-soldering a wire.
I have an awesome new stove with all kinds of bells and whistles, but the old Viking I could tear apart, replace a few wires, maybe a valve.
Anything that can't be repaired and must be replaced when it breaks is junk.
nothing beats a tube amp, or a pump shotgun, or a 1940's car or a rotary dial landline, all just stupid fluff for people who can't *FIX* stuff.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... if your TV set went haywire, you called the TV repair man! No really! The guy came to your house with boxes of tubes, he opened up the back of your set and tested all the tubes. When he found the bad one, he replaced it with a good one. TV set was as good as new! The whole thing took maybe 20 minutes and you paid the guy about $10.
What happens now when the TV breaks? It goes to the landfill and we order one from Amazon for $400.
Mr Jimmy
(21 posts)His name was Herb BTW, was "well, I guess it'll have to go to the shop".
That usually meant 2 week without Howdy Doody.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)Made a good living for 30 years fixing those TVs and installing antennas on roofs. Sadly he had a massive heart attack while installing an antenna, managed to get himself down but died in the ER, only 52. Nowadays hed probably end up a salesman at Best Buy.
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)Repairman made a decent living, if that's taken into account, for 20 minutes of skilled labor
And if you run it the other way, that $400 TV you throw away would have run somewhere in the $45-50 range in 1960
Sounds trivial in contemporary terms but I remind myself about that every time a more seasoned person fusses over ten dollars. That ten dollars might have been a really good steak dinner to them, not all that long ago through the filter of memory.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)I'm guessing it wasn't a high fee, but I'm just using this as an illustration.
moniss
(4,226 posts)where I grew up back then you didn't need $10 unless you had the family with you. My neck of the woods many of the taverns (yes if it has bar stools it's a tavern and not a grill or pub etc.) always had fish fry on Friday and fried chicken on Saturday. No such thing as a "family" restaurant. We didn't call them that. It seemed implied. I saw old newspaper ads from that time when I was a kid and a tavern my family used to go to had an ad for fish fry for $1.95 and that was with coleslaw and rye bread. It was all you can eat. The price for the fried chicken on Saturday was $2.50 and it was all you can eat too. Mashed potatoes or fries. If you watch old movies that have a diner scene in them look for some of the prices in the background. I used to get my grandmother a loaf of store bought bread for 17 cents. Dime for a bottle of soda. But the good times were ending by the early '70's. I paid $75 a month for a two bedroom upper in a duplex in town. I was in one of the higher priced places in town. Heat and water included.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)My dad would open the back of the tv, find the offending tube and drive 2 miles to town to buy the replacement then put it back together.
I love new gadgets. The last washer I had wasted so much water because, for just the two of us, our loads were not that big. It had a low, medium and high water level but low filled half the washer tub. My new washer (with those bells and whistles) does a little dance, determines how much the load weighs, then fills the water accordingly. I've saved a ton of water since we got it. There are good uses for many of those new-fangled things.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)Remember when we had all night car repair shops? It's even harder to find shoe repair shops.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)I have a mechanical Whirlpool dryer, maybe 15 years old. When something goes haywire, Ive discovered its a cinch to fix with a little help from YouTube. And usually cheap. Discovering that I can do this myself is all the progress I need.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Eventually there will be no parts for those old appliances, and the days of doing-it-ourselves will be over.
Ferryboat
(922 posts)On a family member running a temp. Had to ask the wife as she sent me out the door, " why do we have a thermometer that needs batteries "?
Brought back the batteries and old school thermometer.
New and improved isn't necessarily better.
marlakay
(11,455 posts)To have my regular just wash the damn clothes wash machine back from 20 years ago. I have one now probably cost me almost a $1000 and has all the buttons, front loader etc, but after only a year metal ring around rubber broke...sometimes the clothes doesnt wring the water out, you cant soak in a front loader, and the new dryer keeps overheating my clothes if i put down on medium doesnt dry...ugh...
Freddie
(9,265 posts)While loading you cant open the machine after it starts and throw it in like you could with the old ones. Grrr.
marlakay
(11,455 posts)I hit pause, then click on little window and stuff in what I forgot, only good feature
Tess49
(1,579 posts)issue with the door latch not working. It won't work unless the door is securely closed. I went to an appliance repair store online, where I figured out what part I needed. Cost about six dollars. It came with a how-to video. I did the repair myself following the instructions step by step. My son came over to fix the dryer for me, and was astonished that his old Mom had taken the dryer apart and replaced the part. Me? I was damned proud of myself.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)Tess49
(1,579 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Regular wash, Permanent Press and gentle. Hot, cold warm. Even then I use permanent press and gentle, hand wash.
llmart
(15,536 posts)The ones that are mechanical engineers don't usually like all the bells and whistles on appliances and cars. They say the more crap you put on something, the more that can go wrong, and they can no longer fix things themselves because of all the electronics.
I can understand the new features that cars have that are for safety purposes, but does anyone at all pay attention when a car alarm is going off other than to give an annoyed look? When a car alarm is going off in a parking lot or in my neighborhood, I don't give it a second thought.
As far as washing machines go, they're as big as my first car, and I use the same two cycles all the time. I learned to do the wash on my mother's wringer washing machine. I would not want to go back to that, but do we really need ten wash cycles?
As the old saying goes, we don't always need to throw out the baby with the bath water. We can keep some of the things that work just fine and add improvements to suit today's life.
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)I'd still be driving it if someone hadn't of run into it (killing themselves) when it was parked.
Got perfectly respectable mileage (lots of post WW2 cars did, people well remembered gas rationing), tube radio, 3 on a tree shift.
my 1946 Chevy every day back and forth to work and all around. That was the '70's. Never failed to start in winter either. 4 door. No radio. When people would ask why I was driving that old car I would give them a ride or let them drive and the smile on their face was almost immediate. The only question they would have afterward was if I would sell it. The drive home from work was about 10 miles after you went through town and I would take the back roads so the drive lasted about a half hour. Window down, no radio, no cell phone. Best way to decompress and get perspective back that I ever found. While I would drive I would notice the birds sitting on the fences and see the long grasses in the ditch waving in the breeze and making patterns as they did. I could watch as the days went by and they changed colors as the summer went into autumn. Once I got home and walked in the door Mrs. Moniss would immediately start screaming at me about whatever was on her mind. The good old days. I sure do miss that 1946 Chevy. Mrs. Moniss not so much.
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)I mean I love tech, hell I work in IT and am a Science Fiction convention kind of guy, but the elegance of an oil bath air filter, and being able to do a valve job were great.
and with a 235 straight 6 I got 32-34mpg! I know because as a 18 year old college student I made every penny count!. Still seems strange that this big beast of a car got better mileage in 1979 than my Honda CRV did in 2014
moniss
(4,226 posts)only one time and points. Just kept cleaning the plugs and gapping them and filing the points. Changed the oil in my 216 stove bolt six about once a blue moon. Just kept running. Like you I got fantastic gas mileage. Only bought tires once and that's when I first got it. It had been in a garage for years and still had the old original tires. Plain old bias ply tires brand new cost me about $20+. Ran tubes in them.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)But the Engineers enjoy all the bells and whistles. A car that parks, keeps you on the right side of the road, turns on the wipers when it begins to rain? I am waiting for the self driving, great as we get older.
llmart
(15,536 posts)Unless you're independently wealthy, we won't be able to afford a car like that.
I'm now the proverbial little old lady who drives less than 8,000 miles a year and can barely see over the steering wheel as I shrink with age.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)But I have to make a 50 mile trip today each way because the kids now have the big picnic.
Upset me for a while but then I realized it was not so bad. eat,enjoy, watch the men grill, the younger women clean up the kitchen.
We do not have to leave anything, buy the darned self driving car before we have to shell out to a Nursing Home!
Elmer1007
(40 posts)I was 8 and standing on a stool putting a sheet into the rollers. Man it was quick. Pulled my arm into it up to elbow. My grandmother had to unlock the rollers to get me loose.. ahh memories.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Ive never even seen one so I dont know how dangerous that would be, but it sounds awful.
Elmer1007
(40 posts)Two rollers at top, u feed the wet clothers into the rollers. One is powered one is somewhat spring loaded. Some black and blue. Lot of yelling.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Yeah, it was quick. My Mother bought one of those ironers that ironed sheets and pillow cases. Big rollers.
I actually saw one at the Museum last summer.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,851 posts)We had one when I was a child, and it took a lot of time to do family laundry, especially once there were six children and two parents. Although we did wear clothes more than a couple of times before they were put in to be washed.
I recently bought a new washer and drier with pretty much all the bells and whistles and OMG! They are wonderful. For one thing, the washer has a much larger capacity and so I'm doing fewer loads. That's nice. Likewise love the drier. It sings to me when it's done, and I do like that.
Oh, and I put on clean clothes every single day. I like that a lot.
moniss
(4,226 posts)had been meaning to talk to you about that everyday thing.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,851 posts)I'm guessing it's the putting on of clean clothes every day.
I've noticed that older people (and I'm one at 70) seem to start skipping that, as well as skipping the daily shower. Shudder.
moniss
(4,226 posts)you and "luckily" I'm able to "forget" some of that stuff myself. Not much interrupts a good nap.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,851 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)My Mother was a clean fanatic. Clean house, clean clothes, clean yard.
But oh how I hated those beautiful white criss cross curtains that had to go on a stretcher with pins that stick. Then the starched ruffle had to be irnoned.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)Forgot such a thing ever existed.
About 10-15 years ago I bought a pair of pant stretchers from Vermont Country catalogue.
Thought it would make my slacks nice and straight after washing.
And it did fairly well, but I guess I forgot about it over a summer when wearing shorts, and haven't used it in a number of years now.
Stretchers for curtains reminds me also of rugs hanging on clothes lines, and rug-beaters, those tennis-racket-shaped things that one was to use to get the dust and dirt out of rugs.
Thankfully, my mom was not a clean fanatic. We never had curtain stretchers or rug beaters. We never made dozens of Christmas cookies and we didn't can jellies and vegetables. And I'm talking about the 30's and 40's.
So I feel no guilt about not doing those things because they were never really a part of my life. I just observed some others doing it.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Footsteps. One woman said my 2 Sons were the only kids in school with ironed blue jeans.
I remember those pants stretchers. They were easy compared to the curtain stretchers.
Now, if I could only find those towels that dry. I just finished my latest house purge. Years of collecting I am now going the other way.
Demovictory9
(32,449 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)So long I could not remember the year I bought it. Recently, a couple years ago, I had to buy a new dryer. Got a Maytag. It works pretty well, but the door opening and closing it can be problem. The handle can't be grabbed, only by fingertips. I have had several of my fingernails ripped off from opening and closing it. They just don't pay attention to the details anymore.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Work smarter not harder.
I also had to look it up but I do confirm it looks 'familiar'.
Karadeniz
(22,511 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)You started it by stepping on a pedal. It was a Maytag. Coolest thing ever.
keithbvadu2
(36,783 posts)My grandfather had a one year warranty for that... spark plug not included. 1926 I think.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)If you like old engines, they are a great way to get started restoring one. Affordable, too, compared to old stationary farm engines.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,614 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,187 posts)there is (was ) one for sale at our local restore (habitat for humanity) in sonora ca .
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)wringer machine. She had 11 children. My mother had one when we lived in a log cabin for a little over a year while a house was being built---in the 40s. Now all my relative s know who I am, for sure.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)and clearly warning me to not get my fingers caught. The thing had a quick-release lever to disengage the rollers for those events or if clothes got hung. Next, they were carried to our clotheslines to dry in the sunshine. Those were the days.
Much of the stuff you mentioned that annoy people like us is promoted by big corporations simply to make more money and their bells and whistles simply are not all necessary. They do that so maintenance must be done by a high-tech service person, since most all appliances contain a mini-computer that everyday Mr. Fix-its like me can't diagnose. And, those circuit boards are very expensive.
I had a Maytag washer and dryer we bought in '78 and they lasted over 30-years and I could repair both. Not sure I'll even try with my new fancy ones when they break.
KY.............
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)I did have a repair guy tell me many years ago that the most likely item to go on your appliances is the electrical panel that you press for the various features so I avoid buying anything with an electrical panel. i.e. Microwave, Washer/Dryer, refridgerator, etc. I buy the appliances with the turn switch. I also stick with Maytag and Kenmore, though I'm not sure how much longer Kenmore will be around, if they are still around.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)What I remember most about it is all those broken buttons! I was constantly replacing buttons that had been broken. I was happy to get the new one.
on a button. Another lost art I never mastered.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)They really get your clothes clean. You just have to watch and not catch your fingers in the wringer.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's part of being a human being.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, I do know that the newer high efficiency washers use a fraction of the water the old ones used - like 10% to 15% of what used to be used in the older machines.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,851 posts)I love my almost brand new washer. I got it last fall. I love the way it figures out how much water to use. I always select the extra rinse, and I think what I love best is that the spin cycle removes almost all the water. My old washer, which came with this place when I bought it ten years ago, was no longer doing a terrific job of spinning out all the water. What I like best is that I now am doing two loads of laundry each week. One is sheets and towels, the other is clothes. With the old washer it was one load for sheets, another for towels, and two, maybe three clothes cycles.
I'm sure a wringer washer would be a vast improvement over totally by hand (we still had one of those scrubbing boards when I was a kid that I think my grandmother had used) but I'll take 21st century technology every time.
Someday I'm going to write a science fiction story in which someone goes back from, say, 2019 to 1985 and spends the rest of the story complaining about no cell phone, no internet. Or one in which someone goes back to 1940 and has to do laundry.
Yeah, give me the modern technology.
moniss
(4,226 posts)is in the washer of the beholder. Something like that. Myself I remember my grandmother having a big round Maytag on wheels. She also washed with lye soap that she made herself. Bleach she bought but not soap.
pansypoo53219
(20,974 posts)the 90's i think. i do estate sales + time travel. i USE my vintage heaters. my old metal fans. i collect them all. toasters, desk lamps. i USE ice picks i have. shit. using my 30's drip-o-later coffee maker daily. pfft on new. don't get me started on towels that do not dry(i have great collection of vintage towels).
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Glass coffee pot on the stove with the metal ring underneath.
My Presto electric perk was 50 years old, slowed down, bought a new one, the cover on the light popped off within a couple of months. Gave away all the fancy coffee makers.
pansypoo53219
(20,974 posts)drip-o-laters.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)I will cry if that store closes.
Kali
(55,007 posts)you can buy them new in Mexico.
oooo look you can still buy a hand operated one here too https://www.lehmans.com/product/lehmans-own-laundry-hand-washer-with-wringer/washers_and_wash_day_accessories
Jack-o-Lantern
(966 posts)an off/on switch. The owners manual was simple... Plug in and ENJOY.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Change to 1 of 3 Channels?
procon
(15,805 posts)The ones I've seen are manual with a hand crank and big clamps that screw onto a wash tub.. If you're camping it a great thing to have for clothes washed in a galvanized tub or down in the stream.
My grandma used a wringer washer for years and none of us kids were allowed to the washroom whilst she fed clothes into the wringer. She made her own soap, whittling off thin strips from a big bar as needed. She also used boiling hot wash water scooped out of a big canning kettle simmering on a wood burning cook stove.
I loved sleepovers at grandma's house and I still miss her, and those wonderful starched and ironed white sheets that somehow smelled like sunshine.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)That is all I am going to say!
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)And getting the pump fixed or replaced should not have been difficult. Why didn't you.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)you can't get your tit caught it one!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)Or so I've been told.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)The Frigidaire "Jet Cone" washer was aimed at the older demographic mid 20th century, and anecdotally advertised as "cleans as good as your washboard, without the elbow grease". Apparently the 1950's models were called "pulsamatic".
My grandmother had a model that looked much like this one, and was sold on the "rubbing action" of the agitator, she still had it in her Pasadena home in the 1960's. As a toddler, I was fascinated by the crazy contraption.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)There was always the fear of us putting a hand or our entire arm through the thing and having every bone smashed.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)I had a basement where I could use it and then hang things up to dry. This was around 1967.
My mother thought it was funny because shed been so glad to give up hers 20 years before.
But there was just me, not too much washing, and it worked fine for me.
LogicFirst
(571 posts)I was @ 6 yo when my thumb worked its way in between those rollers. No thanks. I'll take the new technology.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)when I was a wee lad.
"Finger, meet gears."
Left hand pointer fingernail still shows signs of my curiosity.
I'm 79, and now more cautiously curious how things work.