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Judge throws a drunk driver's mother in jail for laughing at victim's family in court: (Original Post) George II Jul 2019 OP
Ha! Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #2
Wow. Good for her! Lefta Dissenter Jul 2019 #3
Amanda Kosal, 25, killed 31-year-old Jerome Zirker and severely injured his fiancee dalton99a Jul 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #5
😯 rusty quoin Jul 2019 #6
Good. nt Laffy Kat Jul 2019 #7
What crime? That seems like crazy over reach. zaj Jul 2019 #8
criminal contempt, nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #9
Judges are known for sanctioning people who disrupt court proceedings cab67 Jul 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #13
Criminal contempt is not an every day occurrence, but it isn't... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #14
If laughing is a crime, we have a problem zaj Jul 2019 #15
Your concern sounds as specious as... LanternWaste Jul 2019 #16
Hate-filled jerks do not have the right to... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #19
Let's hope that this judge could somehow handle the House's contempt citations mjvpi Jul 2019 #11
Right On! ...nt 2naSalit Jul 2019 #12
Good to see the bullies did not get the last word in that court room. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2019 #17
Whoa! I think I'm going to stand and applaud right here! Vinca Jul 2019 #18

Response to George II (Original post)

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
4. Amanda Kosal, 25, killed 31-year-old Jerome Zirker and severely injured his fiancee
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jul 2019

And her goddamn family was laughing

The judge was too nice:

A video of the proceedings showed a court officer escort Kosal’s mother from the room as the judge announced she would be taken into custody for criminal contempt.

“Your disruptive and disrespectful behavior disrupted today’s proceedings and you, ma’am, are going to the Wayne County Jail for 93 days,” said Lillard, as the woman whispered something back under her breath.

Amanda Kosal was sentenced to 3 to 15 years in prison for the deadly drunk driving crash that killed Zirker, a father of five, reports WDIV. Her mother, Donna, appeared back in court Friday in front of Lillard. She apologized and her sentence was reportedly reduced to one day in jail, time served.



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Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
14. Criminal contempt is not an every day occurrence, but it isn't...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jul 2019

an exceedingly rare thing either. Judges can and will cite people for disrupting their courtroom or demonstrating disrespect during proceedings. I saw it happen once out of the two juries I've served on.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
15. If laughing is a crime, we have a problem
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jul 2019

It wasn't an issue of disruption of the proceedings, it was a disrespectful act toward victims.

This woman should fight this in court, IMO. She may be a hatefilled jerk, but she's a hatefilled jerk with rights.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Your concern sounds as specious as...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jul 2019

Your concern sounds as specious as telling someone an earned confidence is "arrogance which doesn't serve you well."

No one is arguing she does not have rights; you merely lack relevant knowledge of what contempt entails.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
19. Hate-filled jerks do not have the right to...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jul 2019

treat the judicial process with disdain and contempt. She can laugh all she wants outside the courtroom. You don't seem to appreciate what constitutes contempt and is citable. Clearly the judge does. Only way she could successfully "fight it" would be to apologize to the court. The judge is responsible for pretty much every aspect of their courtroom.

I saw someone cited for coughing. Sounds innocuous enough, doesn't it? However, the individual was obviously feigning it and timing the coughs to express an opinion about one of the witnesses and rattle him during his testimony. Would you say if coughing is a crime, we have a problem?

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