Is the Confederate flag the American swastika?

[Cyrano]

I stated this in another thread where I wondered how many Confederate flags would show up at tomorrow's, Fourth of July, "Trump Is Great" rally.

To me, that flag is a symbol of hatred and the murder of tens of thousands of black people. (I don't know if anyone really knows how many people died under hundreds of years of slavery and then Jim Crow.)

But I do know that my reaction to the Confederate flag is visceral. When I see it, I grit my teeth, my stomach tightens and pure hatred of the sight of that rag flows through me. Same reaction as when I see a swastika.

How many will we see tomorrow near and around the Lincoln Memorial? I have no idea. But whether there are many or none, Trump is desecrating the steps of America's greatest monument.

[shanny]

1. Yes it is.

We should also be pointing out that, like the swastika, it is the flag of losers (they won't care about the deplorable nature of it--that's a feature not a bug--but they do hate being losers).

As for tomorrow, I've seen all I need to see and won't be watching.

[struggle4progress]

2. "We're all just so terribly misunderstood"

[Cyrano]

13. It's amazing how much hasn't really changed over the past 50 years.

Note the reference to "socialism" on a banner in the next to last pic.

[struggle4progress]

16. Some people have very few ideas

[Hoyt]

3. That's what I call it whenever I'm forced to respond to ignorant white wingers

spouting that heritage BS. Yeah, a heritage of hatred.

[Fullduplexxx]

4. I have always referred to it as the dixie swastika

[misanthrope]

5. Coming from a lifelong Alabamian, yes

It stands for a regime openly based on racist philosophy.

[liberaltrucker]

23. Amen. Grew up in Walker County.

[PunkinPi]

6. It's the flag of traitors. nt

[johnp3907]

7. Yes.

Also a flag of an enemy that tried to rip our country in half.

ETA: And as PunkinPi above me says, a flag of traitors.

[Poiuyt]

8. Yes, and a red MAGA hat is the new white hood

[Cyrano]

12. Right on. An outstanding analogy that requires it's own OP.

Please, please do an OP on this. I haven't heard it before, but you've nailed it 100%, Poiuyt. And hopefully, it will shame countless people into filling dumpsters with tons of red hats.

If you don't post it in the next day or two, I'd like your permission to post it myself.

[Poiuyt]

22. Be my guest

Upon doing further research, I found that Alyssa Milano first made the analogy after that incident with the asshole high school kid and the Native American elder. She should get the credit.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Recently I saw a Confederate flag on a pickup truck - right next to the US flag.

And this was in Minnesota. I'm thinking, Dude, do you know there was once a big old war and one of your flags is the symbol of something that's the opposite of the other one? But I think he didn't know or care what the Confederate flag used to mean, only what it means now.

[misanthrope]

24. Yeah, that oxymoron is widespread across the South

They'll fight you about not being "'Mur'can' enough, then turn around and fight you over slights to the Lost Cause.

[DBoon]

10. yes, according to German neo-nazis

Display of the swastika is outlawed in Germany for good reason

So German neo-nazis have adopted the confederate battle flag as their own

[Cyrano]

14. Good info. Never heard this.

[TlalocW]

11. I call it the Losing Side's Flag

Or the world's biggest participation trophy.

People who fly it truly for "heritage" are few and far between, and rightly calling it racist isn't going to sway those who fly it.

Make fun of it though...

TlalocW

[onecaliberal]

15. Good point. It would seem so.

[Wounded Bear]

17. A fair analogy, IMNSHO...

[Marcuse]

18. !

[geardaddy]

19. "How many will we see tomorrow near and around the Lincoln Memorial?"

And therein lies some serious irony.

It is a flag of hate. It is the American Nazi flag.

[Aristus]

20. The only relevant iteration of the Confederate flag is this one:

[geardaddy]

21. Bam!

Spot on!

[ck4829]

25. Yes

[Lithos]

26. It is today

Symbol today of identity politics

[stillcool]

27. the swastika as a design..

is thousands of years old, and has had other meanings. But, none of that history is relevant any more. It's forever tainted. The Confederate Flag is just the Confederate Flag, and we know what that war was all about. This is an interesting article about the flags 'uncomplicated racist history'..
https://theweek.com/articles/562004/surprisingly-uncomplicated-racist-history-confederate-flag

[demosincebirth]

28. It's a symbol of a destroyed and defeated nation

[customerserviceguy]

29. Don't drive down South

You'll see it much more than you want to. Even along I-95.