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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:22 PM Jul 2019

Trump fans adopted soccer star Kelley O'Hara as their hero. Then they watched this kiss.

Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)

By David Reddish 1 hour ago



Republican pundits eager to praise Women’s World Cup soccer star Kelley O’Hara received a rude awakening when cameras caught her smooching her girlfriend in the stands.

Following the big win by the American team at the World Cup Finals, O’Hara received praise for picking up an American flag which had accidentally fallen to the field. Fox News’ Walid Phares called O’Hara a “new American heroine.” The network even ran a story on O’Hara’s teammates Megan Rapinoe and Allie Long dropping and accidentally stepping on the flag. Rapinoe, in particular, has hotly criticized Donald Trump’s anti-LGBTQ policies.

As the far right singled out O’Hara for praise, few pundits noticed that after picking up the flag, she rushed across the field to her girlfriend and locked lips. That makes her the 42nd identifiable LGBTQ player in the Women’s World Cup.

The US team has earned as much attention for its wins in recent days as for its harsh criticism of the Trump Administration. Rapinoe rejected an invitation by Trump to visit the White House, as a have several other players. No doubt the folks over at Fox had hoped O’Hara might break rank with her teammates, though if we had to place bets, we think she’ll skip out too.

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https://www.queerty.com/trump-fans-adopted-soccer-star-kelley-ohara-hero-watched-kiss-20190709

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Trump fans adopted soccer star Kelley O'Hara as their hero. Then they watched this kiss. (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
Why on earth would anyone of the team go to see trump? wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #1
Are any of them actually going? Flaleftist Jul 2019 #3
Not just bad food SCantiGOP Jul 2019 #16
Ha! I'd like to see him try it with one of those women. cwydro Jul 2019 #35
He'd get a penalty kick in the nads. CaptYossarian Jul 2019 #44
I've heard the burgers and tacos he serves are to die for yaesu Jul 2019 #13
Especially if they've been sitting on the table for two or three hours before eating jmowreader Jul 2019 #43
Well, the leftovers Scarsdale Jul 2019 #48
Why would anyone on earth go to see tRUMP? Unless of course they are grifters & KKKons too. nt SayItLoud Jul 2019 #25
Lovely. Hope they have a long beautiful life together. riversedge Jul 2019 #2
It's a RW meme that "all women athletes are gay"... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #4
Also applies SCVDem Jul 2019 #8
Not beauty pageants. llmart Jul 2019 #21
Talent when it comes to sports has much to do with biology and genetics ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #11
testosterone level is gonna correlate with a competitive attitude paulkienitz Jul 2019 #14
Oh bother. Judging by my own family the fiercest women warriors are as likely to be lesbians... hunter Jul 2019 #18
GoAT nt sir pball Jul 2019 #38
I sure would like to see you suggest that to Serena, Tipperary Jul 2019 #42
it's only a correlation. paulkienitz Jul 2019 #52
Oh wow. Tipperary Jul 2019 #36
But it can't be a RW meme that lesbians are not patriotic ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #27
I don't really care, do u? Moostache Jul 2019 #5
Conservatives are nitwits gratuitous Jul 2019 #6
Those homophobes can get bent Blue Owl Jul 2019 #7
She's not a hero because she busted her butt to win Takket Jul 2019 #9
Same thing applies SCantiGOP Jul 2019 #17
George Carlin had a bit one time: Initech Jul 2019 #19
Saw a FB post yesterday snowybirdie Jul 2019 #10
I'd love to tell these fake patriots where they can shove their flags... Initech Jul 2019 #12
they have such a superficial and vacuous concept of heroism and virtue paulkienitz Jul 2019 #15
Hetero Melania: No kiss on lips! keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #20
Donald rich, so we make jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #22
Interesting point Fritz Walter Jul 2019 #23
Yep moose65 Jul 2019 #50
The Right knows kissing should only be between a man and a woman. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #24
Eeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #30
That just makes me want to vomit. smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #31
I need a triple shot of 151. oasis Jul 2019 #40
Jeeeezus! I can't have breakfast after seeing this douchebag do this -- what Nay Jul 2019 #47
The GOP is so SAD. They need to learn to live and let live. iluvtennis Jul 2019 #26
The truly disgusting part Scarsdale Jul 2019 #49
Exactly. iluvtennis Jul 2019 #53
Their relationship was not exactly been a secret Norbert Jul 2019 #28
My looney cousin has several tributes to Kelley on her FB page. badhair77 Jul 2019 #29
She hasn't been secretive about being gay. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2019 #32
Could you do me a favor? Blue_true Jul 2019 #34
It is interesting that they would choose O'Hara. Blue_true Jul 2019 #33
Or she may have felt the ground was not an appropriate place for the flag? GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #37
I'd pick up any sovereign flag. sir pball Jul 2019 #39
You are likely right. I know that I was taught to never let the flag touch the ground if I noticed Blue_true Jul 2019 #41
Like I said. I really don't care. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #45
From all teams, something like 45 women were self proclaimed LGBTQ. Blue_true Jul 2019 #46
Walid Phares was one of Trump's foreign policy advisors Qutzupalotl Jul 2019 #51

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
3. Are any of them actually going?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jul 2019

I wouldn't think eating cold Big Macs with a wannabe dictator would be their thing.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
35. Ha! I'd like to see him try it with one of those women.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jul 2019

Probably the Secret Service would have to save his ass.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
44. He'd get a penalty kick in the nads.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jul 2019

Hey, Trumpsters! Kelley isn't gay--but her girlfriend is. (Let the Simpletons work that out.)

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
4. It's a RW meme that "all women athletes are gay"...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jul 2019

Thus, they shouldn't be surprised when some of them actually are.

I'm pretty sure that sexual orientation has nothing to do with talent. But then, I'm just an old liberal, you know.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
21. Not beauty pageants.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jul 2019

The RW nutjobs would really lose it if they found out beauty pageant entrants were gay.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Talent when it comes to sports has much to do with biology and genetics ...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jul 2019

Sports 'talent', given that almost all sports were created by men to challenge each other, probably favor those with endocrine/hormonal systems that are more on the male side vs. the female.

Before I say something too controversial, suffice to say I don't think this particular stereotype is a totally random coincidence.

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
14. testosterone level is gonna correlate with a competitive attitude
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:46 PM
Jul 2019

and the same hormone also influences the development of sexual orientation in utero. So yes, there is a quite plausible scientific basis for the stereotype of lesbian athletes.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
18. Oh bother. Judging by my own family the fiercest women warriors are as likely to be lesbians...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jul 2019

... as anyone.

What sets them apart is that nobody lives in a closet.


 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
42. I sure would like to see you suggest that to Serena,
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:19 PM
Jul 2019

or Venus, or Stephie, or Chrissie, or Margaret Court (yeah her especially). How about the guys? The figure skaters, dancers, etc. Plenty of competition in those sports...they have more female hormones?

How about Lindsay Vonn? Anika Sorenstam. You do know there are gay NFL players, right? Ever heard of Dave Kopay?

Unreal to read this right wing rubbish here.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
36. Oh wow.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jul 2019

“...probably favor those with endocrine/hormonal systems that are more on the male side vs. the female side.”

Cannot believe I am reading this crap here. Please see post #4.

Smh.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
27. But it can't be a RW meme that lesbians are not patriotic
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jul 2019

That's something they will have to contend with. We need to make a meme of her picking up the flag alongside that picture of the "patriotic" man sitting on his flag.

Edit: Done it https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212260622

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. I don't really care, do u?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jul 2019

The entire GOP, right wing nut baggery and ALL evangelicals can all take a long walk off a short pier whenever they start bleating on about patriotism and family values and any of their other go-to tropes...I have no time for hypocrites and liars in my life at all.

The USWNT was a sterling example of sporting excellence and of courage in standing up to a system that is drastically tilted against women in general. I applaud every one of them and have no interest in identifying them via their sexuality or anything other than being a group of total badass women who I would be proud to have any of my 3 daughters grow up to be exactly like!

As for the phony outrage and faux-patriotism...let me know when they get the vapors about real issues - like warehousing kids in concentration camp cages or continued denial of climate change impacts...otherwise, GOP? STFU already!!!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Conservatives are nitwits
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jul 2019

Yeah, no news flash there. But it's obvious that a lot of conservative people have been drawn to the spectacle of the Women's World Cup but they have no idea who any of the players are, the history of women in sports, or anything beyond the fact that Megan Rapinoe makes them grrrrr mad! Oh, and that's she's an unapologetic lesbian, which makes them even grrrr madder!

What they know about the game, the other players on the team, or anything having to do with the WWC could be inscribed on a 1X2 Post-it note in 36 pt Comic Sans.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
9. She's not a hero because she busted her butt to win
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jul 2019

But because she picked up a flag



Always pisses me off that the right makes worshiping the flag some sort of purity test of how American you are. I love the flag but prefer people who actually care about others instead of pandering to the flag. Remember drumpf hugging the flag?

SCantiGOP

(13,868 posts)
17. Same thing applies
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jul 2019

to the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem.
All three are mere symbols and have nothing to do with patriotism, or with doing what is best for your country.

Initech

(100,056 posts)
19. George Carlin had a bit one time:
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:57 PM
Jul 2019

"Politicians hide behind 3 things - the flag, the Bible and children." I consider these things symbols, and I leave those for the symbol minded."

That's what all this flag humping and rah rah patriotism is about.

snowybirdie

(5,222 posts)
10. Saw a FB post yesterday
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jul 2019

calling Ms Kelly the real hero of the match because she picked up the flag. It called the rest of them pigs and turds. I took offense......Ha will send this one along. Happy life together ladies!💟

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
15. they have such a superficial and vacuous concept of heroism and virtue
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jul 2019

...one where the symbolism matters more than the concrete accomplishments.

This is the attitude which caused George H.W. Bush to get more upset and angry over flags being burnt than over live human beings being burnt.

The right wing is so full of doublethink that they can't tell the difference between true virtues such as courage, and mere social signals that might identify someone as belonging to their right wing team.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
23. Interesting point
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jul 2019

RepubliCONs have somehow found a way to overlook Melanoma posing nude with another female. Indeed, I’m sure some male conservatives felt a distinct tingling in their 🍄s while they gazed at those photos.

Or is their distinction that she pretended to enjoy such an encounter? Art for art’s sake?

Oh, the hypocrisy!

moose65

(3,166 posts)
50. Yep
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:58 AM
Jul 2019

If you hold your nose and read conservative comments, those red-blooded “real” American men think that Melania is hot. They don’t care that she’s a trophy wife or a gold digger or possibly an illegal immigrant. They love her soft-core lesbian porn.

24. The Right knows kissing should only be between a man and a woman.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jul 2019


Nothing says "heterosexual" than a father's love for his daughter.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
49. The truly disgusting part
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:57 AM
Jul 2019

of their outrage, is that many of their "leaders" are gay. Look at Lindsey Graham and tell me he is a straight male? McConnell spent 3 weeks in basic training before being discharged from the army for "unacceptable behavior in the showers". Then he cried real tears when one of his young male aides left his employ for a job a few blocks away. Jerry Falwell Jr. was caught "lending" millions of $$$$ to a young, broke pool boy! Many more examples of right wingers acting straight and getting away with it. These women are living their lives in sunlight and I say "More power to them" The joy on all their faces is contagious.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
28. Their relationship was not exactly been a secret
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jul 2019

A little research and the would have known.

Oh wait, they probably didn't run the story on Faux and Breitbart. My bad.

badhair77

(4,214 posts)
29. My looney cousin has several tributes to Kelley on her FB page.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jul 2019

She and her bigoted right wing evangelical friends will have an attack when they find out Kelley is a lesbian. If she says “love the sinner but hate the sin” one more time I’m going to crawl thru the internet and slap her silly. Thankfully she’s in the west and I’m in the east so our communication is limited.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
32. She hasn't been secretive about being gay.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:15 PM
Jul 2019

I don't know how they could be too surprised.

When I was going to school in the early 60's a lot if the really good female athletes were openly gay. My Middle School PE teacher was x military and openly gay. I mean no one shouted it from the roof tops but everyone knew. Most people just didn't care.

I think the gay men had a lot worse time if it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Could you do me a favor?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jul 2019

Ask your cousin why only 25% of them would take in and protect immigrants, when the New Testament and the Old Testament repeatedly says that to be whole, they must welcome and care for immigrants.

They don't have to bring immigrants to their towns and homes, but they should at the least be pushing their officeholders to get better living conditions and care for immigrants at our border.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. It is interesting that they would choose O'Hara.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:24 PM
Jul 2019

It was very clear to me that she was a big supporter of Rapinoe. She was a cheerleader for the whole team. She may have realized that her teammates didn't notice the flag in their excitement and picked it up to prevent the right from attacking them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Or she may have felt the ground was not an appropriate place for the flag?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jul 2019

Personally, I really could give a shit. One of my favorite Civil War photos is Lincoln and Grant meeting on the battlefield using the flag as a tablecloth!

But there are plenty of Liberal, and I assume gay Americans, who are concerned about Flag protocol.

I only saw ‘assume’ because I have not had that conversation with any of my gay friends. But they are patriotic Americans.

I’m only saying it is wrong to assume she saw her act in a left/right narrative battle.

But I saw it happen and it was obviously not about disrespect but a young person excited that they had just become champions of the world.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
39. I'd pick up any sovereign flag.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jul 2019

Not out of "honoring" it, but any national flag shouldn't be on the ground. It's one of those basic etiquette things.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. You are likely right. I know that I was taught to never let the flag touch the ground if I noticed
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jul 2019

that it was going to touch the ground.

There is a lot of hyprocracy involved with public patriotism and public displays of religiousity. People that get upset about a person not saying the pledge wear flags on their clothing and have flag beach blankets. I have seen very religious people cheat people out of money and have extra-marital encounters. The thing that I hate most is the hyprocracy, I really don't care if people wear the flag or use it as a beach blanket, it is just a piece of cloth afterall. What I don't like are those people lecturing other people on what patriotism is, just like I don't like a man or woman who I am sure had affairs lecturing me about my soul.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. Like I said. I really don't care.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jul 2019

But the reason this story will die? The person the right-wing fascist were giving credit for running over and saving the ‘honor’ of the flag? Right after that she ran up to stands and gave her girlfriend a big kiss!!!

Right wing heads explode! Our supposed hero is gay! End discussion.

The cognitive dissonance is audible!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. From all teams, something like 45 women were self proclaimed LGBTQ.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:58 PM
Jul 2019

My guess is if the women from the Asian and African nation's didn't face backlash, some of them would be out.

I think that it is past time in our society for us to evaluate people on what they accomplish, not what they were born as. That is what we as progressives need to bring about, with no chance of moving backwards ever again.

Qutzupalotl

(14,298 posts)
51. Walid Phares was one of Trump's foreign policy advisors
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jul 2019

that he rattled off in 2016, along with Page and Papadopolous.

Just a side note. Carry on.

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